^^^^ Yep agree 100% with that fella, here's a few pics of my Hawkeye Spec-C man i miss that car, never felt a car handle so well out pf the box so to speak...this was just 358bhp/361ft/lb but it flew...

 

Stunning pete.

 

Mat, it's such a machine mate, they're night & day from our UK STIs, you really do need to drive one, well anyone infact, they just go where you point them so effortlessly and no under-steer etc at all....cracking car..

Engine & box in these is just awesome, box takes SO much shit it's untrue...

 

Looks spot on that does kodak.

 

Frayz is EXACTLY right though, all the praise i heep on it, there's not the same kind of feeling you get with a cossie, yes that's sounds ludicrous but it's true. INSAINE HEY??

 

Nephew, White is even better but could i find one??


The Spec C RA-R is another mad fooking thing..... now that's in a different league again..

 

This is the RA-R, looks like a fooking dogs dinner but fook it's affective..

 

Mmmmm i like i like alot....i might talk the wife into having one of these instead of another focus rs...how much are they if you dont mind me asking pete?...pm if need mate.

 

Mat, you'll get a minter for around 14-15k, infact brand new only 21k from PCM.... alot of car for that trust me..

 

Mat, here ya go, just 500 miles on the clock..


http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2304508.htm

 

Bbet they're nice in white.Yellow one needs a spoiler.

 

Stunning in White Kev, especially on Black rims...

Yeah the RA-R came like that mate from memory..i don't like it personally, BUT it's not made and meant to look like a Aston...

 

Just been looking on PH...some very nice one`s on there.

 

what year did the hawk eye start, it's my fav, just a shame they didn't do a type r 3 door.

 

There are mate..

IIRC mine was the first year of that model buddy...

 

what is insurance like, they have a bit of a boy racer vibe now lots written off ect
wouldn't mind having one as a daily hack, the classic 3 door that is.

 

Here's the big question: Whats a better all rounder, Esctort cos or Imprezza (say classic STI)? And I'm talking about every aspect, not just statistics, )personally I want one of both).

 

Mine wasn't bad, mind you i was 41 when i owned it...

Both.....

 

I just love this video...

Sheady looks SO young there....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV1UbtUfwuI

 

Totally disagree, evo's bore me silly! They are great cars but they are just too easy to drive and not involving enough, the classic Impreza especially the type R is a very different story. They a lot more involving to drive and a lot more rewarding. Subaru's are very tunable and you can get rid of the flat 4 burble with some equal length manifolds

You stick with your evo and I'll stick with my Subaru

 

Yeah agree Paulo, Type Rs and RAs are simply awesome, anyone that says they're boring obviously hasn't driven one properly....

 

[quote=staffi;5264855]Mine wasn't bad, mind you i was 41 when i owned it...



just been on compare the market.

classic wrx sti 1648
bug eye wrx sti 1167

bug eye is not bad, im 23 with 5 years no claims.

 

Mine was £632 iirc, that was with Tett Hamilton on 7k miles per year..that was the Spec -C...

 

3dr cossie is the way forward guys so wake up....

Althought im stuck in the 80`s at the moment even grown my hair..retro..lol.

 

They are mate but I couldn't afford one unless I sold my M3

 

Have to agree.

I've tried to love evos but they just bore me too. Very linear power delivery, steering feels too light. Only thing they are good at is high speed cornering and I'm not into that sort of risk on the roads these days. It's all about fun and turbo punch for me, imprezas just feel so controllable when pushing them round the bends.

Last evo 6 I sold I told the mrs to remind me next time I want an evo not to bother as I'll just want the character of the impreza back after the 2 week honeymoon period.

Last evo 6 I owned was a 'toy' which I owned at the same time as an old V1 STI impreza wagon (which was my work hack) the evo was supposed to be the one to love and enjoy at the weekend etc but I enjoyed an old impreza far more than the evo. I sold both and got the car I'd always promised myself, JDM STI wagon!

The only thing I liked at the time of owning an evo was the look and fact other drivers give you more respect in the evo compared to the scoob but im over that bollox now and it's about me. For instance my 18 yr old apprentice knows what I drive but when he found out I'd had evos he was like "WTF have you got an impreza for, evos are better"

I just smile when someone looks down their nose at me in their evo! Used to make me laugh when I saw people near where I live in evo 6's when I was in my impreza and they'd purposely blank you or smirk like they were somehow better. Little did they know I was the same bloke they were waving to the day before in my evo 6.

 

for £5k what would you guys rather have, a classic bottom end melting gearbox eating sti or a 2wd cossie?

its nice to see how lads move from cossies to try imprezas and evos and come back!

 

I never went away
When I could of afforded an evo 8 or an Escos I was trying to get a 3dr cos,I ended up with a 2wd Sapphire all because of the colour stupid but its what I wanted.
From years gone by my mates have had 10k imprezas and then chucked another 10k at them,one of my mates owns a 500bhp bugeye and another owns a 280ish classic.They just dont do it for me whatsoever.
The only one I would like to own is my mates 07 RB320 which hes owned from new,hardley ever uses it but it looks soooo nice.I would still drive with the window open thinking its missing though !
Nothing gives you a kick up the arse like a cosworth imo,especially a 2wd.
This is just my opinion and others may not agree

 

Me, personally I'd have the sti. Ive had cossies and 10 years ago they were slow and handled badly, I dread to think what a £5k sapphire drives like these days.

Only cossie I'd have now would be a mint 3 door fully restored, classic cars and love cossies though. The car that really sparked my love for performance cars and glad to have owned a few.

 

You need to move with the times cossies are far from slow put any decent cos against a similar power impreza and the cos would maul it in a straight line!

 

2wd cossies only weigh 1250kgs dont they? evos and imprezas are over 1400?

 

its a nice car

 

Move with the times? I had cossies years ago, loved them but I remember when I first went in a pulsar gti-r and was blown away by it (had a 2wd saph at the time) I bought one and then moved on to other jap stuff after that which made the pulsars handling look shit (which it is) I actually went back to a saph cossie (4x4) after the 1st pulsar for a few weeks but soon realised it wasn't the way forward for me.

Reason I like imprezas are because they are great handling and fast (with the right easy mods) but out of all the jap stuff I've owned they have one thing most of the others don't, character.

I'm sure you're right about a 2wd cosworth munching a similar powered impreza in a straight line, my saph was awesome on the motorway. Trouble is these days you can't go that fast! I know people who would regularly max their cossies out on the motorway 10 years ago. These days I'd rather have an every day car that's got better low down acceleration, better grip, handling and better reliability.

There's no need for people to get their knickers in a twist about this post, I'm on here because I love cosworths. If I won the lottery I would have every cosworth variant, all the time I can only afford one car to use I'd not own one.

 

Not classics no, the new-age as they're often called yes, a Classic RA is around 1100-1180 from memory and couple that with it's close ratio box and a mapped safely 330bhp with similar torque believe me upto 120-130 there's NOT alot that'd both you, i've been there...


Agree James 100%, i'm Cossie through & through and at 44years old i've had plenty of nice Imprezas AND still like them, as a A to B road car they're superb, i think alot of people don't appreciate that, it's not all about 5th in a cossie doing 150-165 AND again i'm not wanting to fight over this as i'd have my 3dr over all of them, you just can't be blinkered i'm affraid..

 

I assume your's had a stroker kit/bored up to 2.5? I only seem to remember them being in 2.0ltr and 2.4's?

 

Sorry mate but that Evo comment is the biggest load of tosh i've heard this year.
Like some on here I have had them all, cossie, Evo and Subaru and an Evo is far from uninvolving and easy to drive

 

No the later cars are 2.5 buddy...

It does make you chuckle doesn't it?? Evos are superb, obviously he needs to drive a 6 RS or similar..

My 470bhp EVO 8 MR Sheady built was FAR from univoling..

 

what are the blob and bug eye's scoobies like on fuel? and running day to day?

 

As Pete said the later European engined turbos are 2.5's.

Mine was a lateral supplied 2.5 short engine built up with cometic gaskets, arp studs and P1 heads. I sourced it from a fellow 22b forum member for £1500. Not the best engines Subaru ever made for big power as the liners tend to shift about with big boost and cause head gasket problems but for up to 400bhp they are punchy as hell. You can fit dowels to the block to support the liners (as they are more an open deck style block) and they then work better for big power ie up to 600bhp with the right supporting mods.

Closed deck block is the way most people go for reliable big grunt though, either early wrx/sti jdm 2.0l cdb or 2.2 cdb from 22b. Then worked over to 2.1 or 2.35

 

Compared to other 80s 200bhp rwd saloons of similar weight.... or newer 4wd Imprezas/Evos?