Keith B

Hmmmm, I'm not sure on Specialised. They route the cabling under the BB where all the sh1t collects. Also they do insist on using some stupid seat post diameter rather than 27.2 like everyone else so I cant use my USE Carbon Alien post.

http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...njgkgha.j27009

This looks quite nice though.....

boXXer

yup, they use 30.9 which is a bit of a shitter for us in the shop, as we have to keep loads spare cos they keep getting nicked all the time. I think Spec are the only people to use 30.9 aswell.

Mike.

Ginge !

get a shim then , my use ti seat post needs a shim as they only made em 1 size


oh and paul you have the same taste in bikes as me as i always wanted a DB3, there the fooking tits

oh and anyone seen the new dave hinde M4 frame , a guy at work used to have a dave hine till some tosser nicked it off him , that was a M3 but he wants the new M4 frame

i personally am looking out for a specialized M2 frame ( yes early one again ) and if i get back into his im gonna have tp pay mr robberts a visit for a custom frame , the quality of the roberts frames are just sooooooooo sweet

paul just donate me ya pace as ya never use it and just think what ya would do if it fell over on ya cossie , ill pm ya my address

Ginge !

no the cheep ally frames somtimes have em like townsend/claudbulter ect , oh and the apollo outrage full sus bike for 129.99 , i know as i got 5 of em hanging up needed seat posts and apollo never even supplyed the correct seat post with em , just cant be arsed to order em in

boXXer

lol, throw them away mate. Halfords specials, lol.

Ginge !

i know there halfords specials as i work there remember

oh boxxer do ya service forks btw , if soo need some service manuals and advice on a couple of forks if ya dont mind ( and maybe a few spare parts too )

the main ones are the sid world cups, the carbons steerer/crown forks , just before i strip em apart

boXXer

yeah i know you work there bud, was just playing with ya.
Yeah i service forks, we have got revive kits for the SID's aswell. If you go to rockshox website, they have downloadable PDF workshop manuals. What year are they? and what colour?

BTW, what are those carrera specialized epic copies all about? do they actually work??

Mike.

Ginge !

what the LRS range ( similer to the old GT LTS frames or the newer ones made by the same people who make the kona dawg matic the latest style frame, called a banshee, in cherry red


oh either way there shite

trust me as i work for halfords i can tell ya there bollox, i got a trade course to attend on9th of feb and there gonna show us the "new range" of bikes

its a day out the office and a fun drive in the cossie to birmingham too

downsode is i gotta act like all the new bikes are any good


the world cups are the silver legged carbon crown and steerer, they need a service but the rockshox instructions ya download is fooking shite, i sped ages trying to service the red judy SL's woth em and they ilustatiosnwhere a different fork, in the end i just done it my own way and then the fookers had no rebound

dont wanna fook these ones up though , the handle bar lock out aint allowing the shock to lock out anymnore, theres a half inch travel still on em

boXXer

hmmm, just strip them and have a look. They are a odd fork as you have to add the red rum shite to the bottom of the fork leg AFTER you have stuck the sliders in. I hate Rock Shox TBH, shitty twangy forks. you could always send them off to tim flooks @ TF Shox, he is the bollox, and custom valves them to the customer. If you need his number, i have it @ work.

Mike.

Ginge !

whats red rum ????

i usually work on marzochi forks as here peice of piss to service , niot as easy as the pace forks but there just silly to serivce

Ginge !

any ideas about carbon or Ti spokes btw as i really wanna know who does em for my wheel

Keith B

b19 bal - true I could use a shim but I'm a perfectionist and hate crap like that.

BTW - Dave Hinde is a mate of mine. The M4+ has been out for an age now, as has the M6 (there is no M5 as Spesh tried to sue them as they have the copyright on the M5 bikr name - in reply Dave went out and copyrighted the biking use of M6 to M99 ) Dave's bringing out an M7 soon - it wont be as light as the M6 but has a complete carbon rear triangle rather than jsut the wishbone on the M4+. The tubing is some really funky shape with a flat bottom and curved sides. MBR currently have an M7 frame for trials.
I have an M3 decked out in XTR and it climbs like a whippet, weighs jsut under 23lbs not fast enough downhill or I'm not brave enough over the rocks!

boXXer

Red rum is Rock Shox own special "oil" that you stick in the bottom of the fork legs to control the damping effect. Did it on some old dukes+Psylos'. Your supposed to use it in the wiper seals too, but its total bollox. Marzocchi's are great to service as they are piss easy to do. I have never done a pair of Pace, so i dunno what they are like.

Ginge !

the m4+ was what i was talking about , the carbo rear wish bone is a bling idea , im not a fan of the tube shapes on the m3 hinde ( but then my explosif aint much better tbh ) the guyb that had the hinde loved it, he was like me inton cross country too, i dont go downhill fast enough to even need suspention tbh hence why i dont use it , i used to have one of the first 10 lts frame in the country and tbh i never got along with it

i went back to rigid and my places never changed

im not that muxh upo to speed on the recnet bikes tbh, i used to manage a cycle shop when i was younger and used to race back then too but i moved away from it but after a year with playing woth bikes and repairing em im getting back into em abit more now , cheaper than a car thats for sure

Monte 76

I'm in the middle of restoring and lightening my '94 Klein Attitude.

There's something wrong with me though......... I just sit there for ages absorbing the beauty of the Paintwork and Welding!

Keith B

Sounds like you're like me going downhill then!
The M3 tubing is a bit naff I suppose. The M4+ tubing is Columbus Airplane and looks super sexy - M6 Starship is jsut unreal - when you flick it, it sounds as thin as a coke can! M6 frame in 18" size weights 2.1 lbs !!!! thats what - 950g?!

Ginge !

theres a sping fork, jsut strip down and clean and regrease

thats it, there sooooooooooooooooo simple, the only reason why i say marzochi are harder as they are a oil based fork and ya get oil mees where the pace dont

that red rum will explain the lack of dampning then , im guessing its a thick weight oil

good job i asked before i stripped 500 quids worth of fork down forst isnt it

Ginge !

fook me, i just got rid of my 2.8 series cannondale as that was too flexi and crap, but 2.1 thats silly , id like to test that one

thats nothing i spent 30 mins showing a guy in work and explaining the roberts brazing frame finish and why its sooooo smooth

kelin are fooking nice bikes, the 94, is that the pink/yellow fade frame

boXXer

yeah its like gearbox oil buddy. I used that instead when i ran out, and does the same job. The marzocchi's with the springs you are on about are the MZ COMP. They are made by suntour, and even have the same top caps. They are shite though as they just blow through the travel, and bottom out, HARSHLY, as you probably know....

mike.

Ginge !

no the sping based ones i was talking about are the pace

the marzochis i prefer to service are the air/oil ones as there soooo easy

like the bombers

im gonna pick ya brain at the passionford meet on wednesday so be prepaered

as if i get my way i might be buying the sid world cups off the guy for 200 quid if all goes well hence why im asking about doing em proper

otherwise i would just pump more air into em

boXXer

AHHHH right, thought you meant the Marz's. You can pick my brain as much as you want mate. But i know that the Sids have a lockout problem on them anyway, as we have a 04 s-works epic that we sold, and it kept coming back with a fecked lockout mechanism, so we just sent them back to madison, who changed the internals. But, for Ł200, thats a bargain.

Mike.

boXXer

Dont ram them with loads of air either, cos you will blow the seals out the legs, lol. and have loads of oil over ya.

Ginge !

the lock out did work knwo i allows a bit of movment then locks out totally

its good to have a fresh pair of eyes on the problems too and adivce and help from others aswell

besides all i get is the problem bikes usually

ive sorted the shimano brake problem i had though , belive it or not the guy never actually rode the bike 20miles since he had it as when he started to use the bike the brakes squeeled so he stuck it in the garage unltil his service was due

hope are hopfully gonna redesign there brake leaver due to my coooooting the design off though , they did say that there compatible with the shimano duel brake levers though ( guess he recons the lever will always be crap from hope )

will deffo cht to ya on wednesday

Ginge !

pmsl, reminds me whe i guy a work when i was a saturday boy at a cydle shop blew uo the forks in a killer V cannondale with the hooge head tube when he pumpoed it up with a comressor

boXXer

NO WAY? how dodgy was that? did it work ok? have you ever seen inside on of those headshox? they are a joke. SOOO many parts to them. Oh, and what dont you like about the hope levers mate?

Mike

sjoyce666

ive got a GT Zaskar LE, ball burnished

built it up from a frame but hardly use it now

proper little DS bike with Judy 100's on it

love it, just never get time to use it when back home

Scott

boXXer

bloody hell, judy 100's. Havnt seen a pair of them for AGES. Or the DHO's

Keith B

I've got a pair of Judy race on my M3 - they're 4 yrs old now and totally shafted!

The M6 frame is pretty stiff for the very light weight, its stiffer than Scandium (and a bit lighter too) it under goes some sort of pressurised heating that adds alot of surface strength - check out the Columbus web page for the details.

jumpin jack crash

well can get a crash replacement for the m1 from intense, they offered me a brand new m3 for $1600. bout Ł800 - Ł900) which is a result

i rung nigel page about a new swingarm for the tazer but they want Ł350 but can get one for $200 from cambria cycles in california. just a pain in the ass to be honest. SO IF U KNOW ANYONE THAT FANCIES A TAZER!!!!

do you know anyone who services manitou millenium forks?

It's Czech Mate

In my experienc of snapping all things bike related i would only ever have Marzocchi or Fox forks...i have broken or had major trouble with forks from every other major manufacturer apart from PACE. Rockshox in particular are flimsy mass produced crap and that goes for the rear shocks too if they still do them.

Ginge !

rockshox are ok there just a right coont to service

my only issue with pace forks is there designed for a weigh of the rider being no more that 11 stone, im a "tiny" bit more than that , same as the kona stinky i got one at work i can buy for 675 quid but id have to get a harder rear spring as its like a bing soggy sponge when i play on it

i may still buy it though, not sure yet

jumpin jack crash

i never really liked the pace stuff, too x-country never seemed like it would take anything more than riding up a hill. the only carbon forks ive ever trusted is my manitou milleniums, there the onl;y forks that have ridden better than my old Z1's !!ive seen so many many people who ride DH snap carbon stuff.
im riding a kona chute frame at the mo which for a kona is quite a tough little frame. next frame for me tho is the 24 pornking, what a frame, built like a tank!!! and it comes in pink!!!

Ginge !

yeah a mate of mine is saving for one of them, but there jump bikes like the chute, tbh the kona chute frames are very over priced and ya diont get the kona thing wth em as kona are a cross country stiff light weight and comfortabkle frame


the chute is none of them , just a jump bike with a kona sticker on it ( they aint even made or designed by kona , look at halfords carrera range of hard tail bikes and tell me what ya notice

oh and carbon is not a d/h material in anyway !!!!

remeber that carbon when ya take a hit with it then its wrote off so when ya crash and what the carbon bars next impact the snap !!!!!

hence why carbon stuff is for th cross country market

jumpin jack crash

they been trying to put carbon into Dh for a while now but as you say its x-country and nothing else. you only have to look at the GT lobo, which one of my mates snapped 2 in as many month when they come out.
i never knew that about the kona chute tho, next time im in a halfords will be looking around for the carrera. they are expensive though for a hardtail. i got mine for Ł100 and it was a yr/2 yr old. no way id pay Ł450 for one!!
to be honest i cant see a stronger frame out there today that looks as good as the pornking. im running out of frames as the M1 and the tazer are seen as some of the strongest on the market and ive snapped both.

Ginge !

how have ya snapped em though, crashing dont count remember , what ya need to buy is a raleigh frame, im not taking the piss, ive never seen a snapped raleigh steel frame ever

ive snapped a few frames in my days, never snapped a GT zasker frame and i had a fooking hard crash with that and ended up with a fook off dent on the down tube, still never snapped though

im got back to a steel frame as when i snap that i just get it rewelded

jumpin jack crash

i had a zaskar they are bombproof!!!
nah i snapped the swingarm off the tazer ridng home from work one day was doing some big jumps on it the week before
the M1 i cracked the front end, not sure where i was riding when i cracked it tho as id been to about 3-4 courses in a week. no crashes tho.

It's Czech Mate

You need a Curtiss made from T45 steel then if you are a frame snapper looking for a hardtail..........it had a lifetime guarantee last time i looked and is super strong.

jumpin jack crash

they are solid frames too, used to race in same category as jim davage so i know they are great frames. like the look of the pornking tho its got that "bling" look to it

Ginge !

and the name helps too , thats the reason when i firt got into bikes i likes the D.O.G.S.B.O.L.X frame, just for the name, but then i looking into it and i realised its the tits of a bike too

jumpin jack crash

i must admit it more that it in pink rather than the name