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Very intresting ! Stuart whyte that used to race with Andy gallacher , Steve scott etc has a black one as well he got it from a trader years ago used the inlet etc for his race car & put a standard inlet on it not sure what happened with the car im sure he might still have it the engine was out it last i heard.
I bought that car mate
The engine etc was put back in it only a few weeks ago
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Thanks for correcting me Paul, Ive seen so many people refer to it as a caltex car I made the assumption it was intended as a replica.
Its not half arsed as a replica at all then, its zero arsed in that context obviously![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Cool, I just said I would find it hard to picture who had a use for it that would justify the cost, but you obviously have exposed it to the right people that im not aware of, good luck with the sale![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
I dont have the talent for bodywork to build it solely by myself to that standard mate, and I wouldnt claim to either, all the mechanical stuff would be a piece of piss to me, but the bodywork wouldnt. Not sure where the internet warrior comment or jumped up comes from though, not the case at all, you wont ever see me threatening anyone etc
As Ive already said, I dont think the car is half arsed, I said it was half arsed if intended as a replica, but you have already cleared that up anyway, in saying its not even intended to be a replica anyway.
Its not half arsed as a replica at all then, its zero arsed in that context obviously
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Cool, I just said I would find it hard to picture who had a use for it that would justify the cost, but you obviously have exposed it to the right people that im not aware of, good luck with the sale
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I dont have the talent for bodywork to build it solely by myself to that standard mate, and I wouldnt claim to either, all the mechanical stuff would be a piece of piss to me, but the bodywork wouldnt. Not sure where the internet warrior comment or jumped up comes from though, not the case at all, you wont ever see me threatening anyone etc
As Ive already said, I dont think the car is half arsed, I said it was half arsed if intended as a replica, but you have already cleared that up anyway, in saying its not even intended to be a replica anyway.
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By definition a replica of anything is never an exact copy anyway, its a close approximation of the original, so how could it be a half arsed replica as the only thing Pauls not done is use original touring car suspension.
If it was claimed to be a facsimilie then again thats the only part thats not as per the originals, so even as a duplicate its very close, so again hardly half arsed.
It would take less than a day to swap out, and I know if Paul could have found any then it would be in place already.
He could not give a monkeys anyway, as he built it to his desired spec for himself at a standard even the race teams would struggle to produce. At the end of the day its sat in his garage along with a load of other lovely toys and I bet that gives him a warm feeling inside whenever he takes a peek at them.
Back to the original topic, I am more than happy with the car I purchased from Oakfields, and the price I paid. I have already been approached a few times with offers well over the purchase price even in the short space of time I have owned it.
Having spoken to people involved in the purchase of two other RS500s from Oakfields in the last year or so, the owners are equally as happy and could turn a profit if they wanted.
If anyone is seriously interested in any of the cars they have for sale just get on the phone and then get down there and talk with them, I sure you will come away with a deal you are happy with.
If it was claimed to be a facsimilie then again thats the only part thats not as per the originals, so even as a duplicate its very close, so again hardly half arsed.
It would take less than a day to swap out, and I know if Paul could have found any then it would be in place already.
He could not give a monkeys anyway, as he built it to his desired spec for himself at a standard even the race teams would struggle to produce. At the end of the day its sat in his garage along with a load of other lovely toys and I bet that gives him a warm feeling inside whenever he takes a peek at them.
Back to the original topic, I am more than happy with the car I purchased from Oakfields, and the price I paid. I have already been approached a few times with offers well over the purchase price even in the short space of time I have owned it.
Having spoken to people involved in the purchase of two other RS500s from Oakfields in the last year or so, the owners are equally as happy and could turn a profit if they wanted.
If anyone is seriously interested in any of the cars they have for sale just get on the phone and then get down there and talk with them, I sure you will come away with a deal you are happy with.
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Paul i really admire the work gone into your car, the build and finish are very very good indeed and you should be proud of that. The thing for me is it was supposed to be built as a race car yes? Then it has a standard 3Dr rear beam on it, the last time i saw it the boost pipe to the turbo was split.
Your saying its built to a better spec than the original car, but the original car was a proven race car with all the parts to make it one. I think this is what Chip was trying to get at, he just had to do it in his own way that winds everyone up.
Your saying its built to a better spec than the original car, but the original car was a proven race car with all the parts to make it one. I think this is what Chip was trying to get at, he just had to do it in his own way that winds everyone up.
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Paul i really admire the work gone into your car, the build and finish are very very good indeed and you should be proud of that. The thing for me is it was supposed to be built as a race car yes? Then it has a standard 3Dr rear beam on it, the last time i saw it the boost pipe to the turbo was split.
Your saying its built to a better spec than the original car, but the original car was a proven race car with all the parts to make it one. I think this is what Chip was trying to get at, he just had to do it in his own way that winds everyone up.
Your saying its built to a better spec than the original car, but the original car was a proven race car with all the parts to make it one. I think this is what Chip was trying to get at, he just had to do it in his own way that winds everyone up.
and it hasnt and never has had a split boost pipe on it , why on earth would ileave a split pipe on the car when i have aprox 7 sets of gen rs500 pipes on the shelf ,lol,
are you looking at the correct car
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ERR It hasnt got a std rear beam mate , next time you see the car have a very very close look and you might just realise somthing
and it hasnt and never has had a split boost pipe on it , why on earth would ileave a split pipe on the car when i have aprox 7 sets of gen rs500 pipes on the shelf ,lol,
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and it hasnt and never has had a split boost pipe on it , why on earth would ileave a split pipe on the car when i have aprox 7 sets of gen rs500 pipes on the shelf ,lol,
are you looking at the correct car
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The pipe to the turbo had defo looked like it had a split in it at Cumbria Paul, my mate noticed it and pointed it out.
I said at the start of my post i wasnt slagging the car and think the work gone into it is amazing, but to say its better spec than a Caltex car seemed a bit odd to me.
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Didn't look like it had been modded etc paul, I could not see any rose joints or see it being extended to make it to 9 degree let alone 6 etc. I have seen how Rouse modded the standard beam and yours doesnt look anything like this. Then things like standard ARB made me think it was standard, sorry if i am wrong Paul.
The pipe to the turbo had defo looked like it had a split in it at Cumbria Paul, my mate noticed it and pointed it out.
I said at the start of my post i wasnt slagging the car and think the work gone into it is amazing, but to say its better spec than a Caltex car seemed a bit odd to me.
The pipe to the turbo had defo looked like it had a split in it at Cumbria Paul, my mate noticed it and pointed it out.
I said at the start of my post i wasnt slagging the car and think the work gone into it is amazing, but to say its better spec than a Caltex car seemed a bit odd to me.
well i can assure you that the pipe is 100% NOT split and its the pipe thats been on there from the start
regards the rear beam , next time you see the car have a look and if you still think its a std beam ask me to show you
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Ps, There were many mant BTCC cars that were not fitted with rose jointed ajustable rear beams , but these were NOT std beams either
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What's been done to the beam Paul and any close up pictures. I not taking the piss or being funny would just like to see whats been modded, incase i can learn any thing from it.
Where we thought we saw the crack was on the rip on the turbo pipe. I am not sure if this is how they come out of the mould, can you see how we would think it might look like a split?
How much would a genuine Caltex car be if in original condition seeing as it had 2 wins under its belt?
Where we thought we saw the crack was on the rip on the turbo pipe. I am not sure if this is how they come out of the mould, can you see how we would think it might look like a split?
How much would a genuine Caltex car be if in original condition seeing as it had 2 wins under its belt?
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it should prove interesting when it goes past 500 known cars
bit like ac cobras, D type Jags and some Ferraris, there are more in existance now than left the factories
I was told by a genuine cobra owner that there are 3 around the world all with the same chassis number![Confused](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
I guess in reality there were more like 600 plus RS500s if you count the race cars, which the RSOC dont officially recognise for some wierd reason.
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I guess in reality there were more like 600 plus RS500s if you count the race cars, which the RSOC dont officially recognise for some wierd reason.
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What's been done to the beam Paul and any close up pictures. I not taking the piss or being funny would just like to see whats been modded, incase i can learn any thing from it.
Where we thought we saw the crack was on the rip on the turbo pipe. I am not sure if this is how they come out of the mould, can you see how we would think it might look like a split?
How much would a genuine Caltex car be if in original condition seeing as it had 2 wins under its belt?
Where we thought we saw the crack was on the rip on the turbo pipe. I am not sure if this is how they come out of the mould, can you see how we would think it might look like a split?
How much would a genuine Caltex car be if in original condition seeing as it had 2 wins under its belt?
I dont have any piccs of the beam that show the mods , Best to look yourself anyway when you next see the car
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Only piccs i have of pipes are these
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You can actually remove that ring from the hose if you wish and the hose is fine , Its there to try and stop the hose from sucking in under extreme loads
If you look at the piccs above i think you can see the sealer and also see some places where it has cracked , BTW , they arnt the hoses fitted to the Caltex car there bfitted to my old black 500
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Glad we got that sorted
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the rear beam is modded where the arms mount to give extra camber and its also modded so that it bolts directly to the roll cage
It is also a gen RS500 item ( well it had to be didnt it )
A lot of private run cars run exactly the same rear beam , A cheaper option and also ( in some peoples opinion ) a better option rather than rose joints that can fail
I actually fitted the modded beam rather than a brand new stage 2 beam that i bought for the cars simply because IMO it was more of a " special " part and one that only those who knew what they were looking at would notice , and i dont mean that as a dig at you , But you will be suprised at the amount of folk who have noticed what it is and comment on the fact that they also feel its a nice touch
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Paul I have never got underneath it for a proper look, I had only had a quick glance and didnt notice any extra bracing etc so thought it was a standard item. I take it the slots are horizontal on the inner points and vertical on the outers? Does this still have the bump steer problems due to it not changing from the standard 18 degree set up?, but then its alot better than standard as you can actually get the wheels where they should be.
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Paul I have never got underneath it for a proper look, I had only had a quick glance and didnt notice any extra bracing etc so thought it was a standard item. I take it the slots are horizontal on the inner points and vertical on the outers? Does this still have the bump steer problems due to it not changing from the standard 18 degree set up?, but then its alot better than standard as you can actually get the wheels where they should be.
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lost interest after a few pages of reading for the record i aint got the money to buy it if i came into some money i would though the build quality is amazing imo out of interest would people still feel the same way about it if it was a straight colour?
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What makes it better spec'd than an actual BTCC RS500? And if so are we discounting the AVO dampers?
Genuine question so please don't rip my head off as I don't know the spec of the BTCC cars.
Genuine question so please don't rip my head off as I don't know the spec of the BTCC cars.
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The AVO dampers went a long time ago mate
It now has 909 mag billys
I can only realy tell you a spec comparrison on a perticular car Dan as most of the BTCC cars differed in spec ,
To be honest im getting a bit board with trying to justify my car now
If anyone doesnt like the car or thinks im asking to much then i realy dont give a shit
Do your own homwork and you will find that the origonal BTCC cars were very basic ( even down to an austin morris fuel pump
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I never intended on building a BTCC replica , I built a top notch 3 door race car and i get a lot of possotive comments other than one or 2 pricks on here who find they need to either fault the car or expect me to justify its asking price
Please try and build this car for less than 80 / 100k as you wont
Can we now please get back onto the topic of oakfields and if there is anyone else wants to try and pull mt car down either put up piccs and spec sheet of your better car or STFU
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