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08-12-2010, 05:51 PM
#42
I love the car.
But I find it Extraudinary that you turned a smidge under 50k offer down for it.
Poss Due to the fact that its racing ability does not really matter as anyone wanting it would not be racing it due to how mint it is
The fact that its not a genuine caltex car is surely a hinderance as it has no history or story attatched to it from the touring car era.
IMO the car being better spec that the caltax car still does not make it more desirable.
Im suprised you turned down 50K.
Personally if I had 50K burning a hole even though I think the car is top 5 all time greatest modified fords ever built I would not pay that for it.
I hope you get that though...
And no im not chips brother
But I find it Extraudinary that you turned a smidge under 50k offer down for it.
Poss Due to the fact that its racing ability does not really matter as anyone wanting it would not be racing it due to how mint it is
The fact that its not a genuine caltex car is surely a hinderance as it has no history or story attatched to it from the touring car era.
IMO the car being better spec that the caltax car still does not make it more desirable.
Im suprised you turned down 50K.
Personally if I had 50K burning a hole even though I think the car is top 5 all time greatest modified fords ever built I would not pay that for it.
I hope you get that though...
And no im not chips brother
Last edited by Ebonycossie4x4; 08-12-2010 at 05:52 PM.
08-12-2010, 05:51 PM
#43
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On a serious note. i had a very good look round pauls car at central day earlier this year, and i thought the attention to detail was superb. as far as race/track cars go, its one of the best 'home' built cars ive ever seen, and looks better built, than some 'genuine' race cars ive seen. not that im an expert, just my opinion.
08-12-2010, 05:53 PM
#44
On a serious note. i had a very good look round pauls car at central day earlier this year, and i thought the attention to detail was superb. as far as race/track cars go, its one of the best 'home' built cars ive ever seen, and looks better built, than some 'genuine' race cars ive seen. not that im an expert, just my opinion.
08-12-2010, 05:56 PM
#47
) car with no heritage.But if there is some crazy bloke in norway who wants to drift it round gatebil for example, then I guess its ideal for that and I personally would absolutely love to see it used for that, nothing better than seeing a really tidy car properly driven!
08-12-2010, 05:58 PM
#49
I love the car.
But I find it Extraudinary that you turned a smidge under 50k offer down for it.
Poss Due to the fact that its racing ability does not really matter as anyone wanting it would not be racing it due to how mint it is
The fact that its not a genuine caltex car is surely a hinderance as it has no history or story attatched to it from the touring car era.
IMO the car being better spec that the caltax car still does not make it more desirable.
Im suprised you turned down 50K.
Personally if I had 50K burning a hole even though I think the car is top 5 all time greatest modified fords ever built I would not pay that for it.
I hope you get that though...
And no im not chips brother
But I find it Extraudinary that you turned a smidge under 50k offer down for it.
Poss Due to the fact that its racing ability does not really matter as anyone wanting it would not be racing it due to how mint it is
The fact that its not a genuine caltex car is surely a hinderance as it has no history or story attatched to it from the touring car era.
IMO the car being better spec that the caltax car still does not make it more desirable.
Im suprised you turned down 50K.
Personally if I had 50K burning a hole even though I think the car is top 5 all time greatest modified fords ever built I would not pay that for it.
I hope you get that though...
And no im not chips brother
Please also remember that your average Joe wouldnt pay 50k as that is what most people ( inc me ) paid for there house a few years ago so cant justify that kind of money , BUT anyone who wants a car to race of this cars build quality and spec knows that it CANT be built for anywhere near what i want for the car so in there eyes that car is infact very cheap
Im not even bothered about selling to be honest as i can start my new business without selling it so i may just remove it from the market and carry on showing the car and maybee even one day i may track it and show it isnt just a nice looking car but its built to go round a cicuit also
Last edited by Mr RS500; 08-12-2010 at 06:01 PM.
08-12-2010, 06:04 PM
#52
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do that, you WILL regret selling it. if its not a must, and you dont need to sell it, why bother, after all the time, passion, and money you have invested in it.
08-12-2010, 06:08 PM
#54
Those race cars are exactly that though, ready to race as a developed package, which is the sort of thing that IMHO is therefore easier to sell as it has a purpose as a race car, which was what I said originally, the trouble with pauls is almost that its "too good to race" effectively.
08-12-2010, 06:10 PM
#55
there not ready to race tho chip ! i personally know of 3 500 race cars the have cost between 80k and 115k that have needed another 30k each to make them race ready as the old 500s were just brute force and luck rather than a well developed race car, i would sooner race a 50k car than a car that cost 2x as much ! the brooklyn car we run in a lot of people eyes was to nice to race bu it does and the owner drives the wheels off it people wan to race them , its not just cossie race cars either as e30 me evo race cars are fetchig the same value and replicas fetch 65000 euros so you are completely wrong and just because you have a high allmighty opinion it dont make you right
Jay, I bow to your superior knowlege of the value of race cars mate, im sure its genuinely something you know a lot more about than me.
I didnt realise they were changing hands for rs200 money once race prepped!
Last edited by Chip; 08-12-2010 at 06:22 PM.
08-12-2010, 06:54 PM
#56
doesn't he just !
Especially quoting 4 or 5 words at a time from someones reply
Can anyone confirm that Chip is this sad / annoying outside of internet life (albeit, he seems to spend most days on here)
Especially quoting 4 or 5 words at a time from someones reply
Can anyone confirm that Chip is this sad / annoying outside of internet life (albeit, he seems to spend most days on here)
Last edited by Westy; 08-12-2010 at 06:56 PM.
08-12-2010, 07:03 PM
#58
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Chips alright in real life, doesn't come over anything like he can on here but then we tend to talk about things we have a common interest in.
As for Pauls car, its a beauty but unlike a genuine car with History I can't see it being as much of a investment as one of the original btcc Sierras.
No doubt about it though, its beautifully put together.
As for Pauls car, its a beauty but unlike a genuine car with History I can't see it being as much of a investment as one of the original btcc Sierras.
No doubt about it though, its beautifully put together.
08-12-2010, 07:04 PM
#59
must be! As to be honest.. he is the most annoying c*nt on here EVER!
Sad really that someone cant recognise when they are wrong... take that shadrack garage he built He locked the thread when everyone started taking the piss 
Re-opened it after it survived a winter
and PLEAE Chip, DO NOT quote me FFS
Sad really that someone cant recognise when they are wrong... take that shadrack garage he built
He locked the thread when everyone started taking the piss Re-opened it after it survived a winter and PLEAE Chip, DO NOT quote me FFS
Last edited by Westy; 08-12-2010 at 07:05 PM.
08-12-2010, 07:06 PM
#60
Must just be the internet that brings out the total fucking wanker in him 
So if I had been saying the same thing to a group of people it would have been obvious from the tone of my voice how much I liked your car, Ive been back and re-read my post on here and genuinely cant see how anyone could read it and think "chip doesnt like pauls car" TBH, especially given that I used the term "i love it" but the internet seems to be a good tool for people to use when they actually WANT to be wound up
08-12-2010, 07:13 PM
#61
I seem to get called the most annoying cunt and the most useful person on here in fairly equal measures TBH mate, I dont take too much notice of either
Its quite funny actually watching people like you talk about me, cause you are always SO far wide of the mark. I would hate to actually meet somone who is anything like you seem to think I am, but Im certainly nothing of the sort myself. I think that once you are on that hater bandwagon it must effect your eyesight or something and you just only read the bits you want to or something
I didnt build it mate
Thats not the case either, it was left open for ages and ages while people were taking the piss, it didnt bother me, the only time I locked it was when I was too busy in work to reply to it, which was after a good 10 pages or so of pisstaking from people too blind to notice the pillars etc who did seem to geuninely believe there was some sort of real risk of it falling down which I must admit I find quite amusing
Re-opened it after it survived a winter p
I reopened it as soon as I wasnt so busy in work again, if you go back and look at the time it was locked you'll see I was barely on here at the time.
No consipiracy and certainly not a case of me giving a monkeys about people taking the piss, I absolutely love our shitty shed, it gives me somewhere warm and spacious to work on my cars this winter, couldnt give a fuck what anyone else thinks about it!
Quoted down to the very last character in several blocks as you seem to desperately want attention from me or your wouldnt keep joining threads just to post about or to me I guess
Originally Posted by Westy
Sad really that someone cant recognise when they are wrong...
Originally Posted by Chip in this very thread
Thanks for correcting me Paul
take that shadrack garage he built
He locked the thread when everyone started taking the piss
Re-opened it after it survived a winter p
No consipiracy and certainly not a case of me giving a monkeys about people taking the piss, I absolutely love our shitty shed, it gives me somewhere warm and spacious to work on my cars this winter, couldnt give a fuck what anyone else thinks about it!
and PLEAE Chip, DO NOT quote me FFS
08-12-2010, 07:22 PM
#62
Wether its on here or in real life im a bit of a stickler for facts, im very helpful to anyone wether I know them or not, Im keen to learn from others, Im keep to teach others, I enjoy having a laugh, im quite happy to be the butt of a joke and likewise under my "treat others how you want to be treated" approach to life Im quite happy to make others the butt of a joke too.
I really dont see the difference wether its typed or spoken TBH mate.
but then we tend to talk about things we have a common interest in.
As for Pauls car, its a beauty but unlike a genuine car with History I can't see it being as much of a investment as one of the original btcc Sierras.
No doubt about it though, its beautifully put together.
08-12-2010, 07:24 PM
#63
Chips alright in real life, doesn't come over anything like he can on here but then we tend to talk about things we have a common interest in.
As for Pauls car, its a beauty but unlike a genuine car with History I can't see it being as much of a investment as one of the original btcc Sierras.
No doubt about it though, its beautifully put together.
As for Pauls car, its a beauty but unlike a genuine car with History I can't see it being as much of a investment as one of the original btcc Sierras.
No doubt about it though, its beautifully put together.
Its a race car nothing more nothing less
the thing i find quite funny is people saying its not got BTCC race history so not worth as much
Thats exactly why is circa 50k and not 150k
If the car was a gen BTCC car it defo would have been sold without even advertising it
08-12-2010, 07:27 PM
#65
The thing is tho , where did i or anyone else say its an investment ?
Its a race car nothing more nothing less
the thing i find quite funny is people saying its not got BTCC race history so not worth as much
Thats exactly why is circa 50k and not 150k
If the car was a gen BTCC car it defo would have been sold without even advertising it
Its a race car nothing more nothing less
the thing i find quite funny is people saying its not got BTCC race history so not worth as much
Thats exactly why is circa 50k and not 150k
If the car was a gen BTCC car it defo would have been sold without even advertising it
Ironically both me and jonnybravo would easily see the value in a 50K rally mk2 escort that doesnt have any heritage so it just shows a lack of understanding on our part what the real value of something like your car is, we're thinking of it as not a collectors piece, and not a good trackday car, but put in the context of historic touring cars etc, its probably very good value, but thats just something that neither of us know a great deal about the value of I suppose!
08-12-2010, 07:29 PM
#67
10K+ Poster!!
I still can't work out how you multi quote !
Either way, yep you are a bit anal about facts but then I know tons of people who are inc myself if its a subject I know something about.
Either way, yep you are a bit anal about facts but then I know tons of people who are inc myself if its a subject I know something about.
08-12-2010, 07:32 PM
#69
Paul, I think many of us are understimating its value to someone who wants to race in an historic race series.
Ironically both me and jonnybravo would easily see the value in a 50K rally mk2 escort that doesnt have any heritage so it just shows a lack of understanding on our part what the real value of something like your car is, we're thinking of it as not a collectors piece, and not a good trackday car, but put in the context of historic touring cars etc, its probably very good value, but thats just something that neither of us know a great deal about the value of I suppose!
Ironically both me and jonnybravo would easily see the value in a 50K rally mk2 escort that doesnt have any heritage so it just shows a lack of understanding on our part what the real value of something like your car is, we're thinking of it as not a collectors piece, and not a good trackday car, but put in the context of historic touring cars etc, its probably very good value, but thats just something that neither of us know a great deal about the value of I suppose!
Like anything in life the only people who see the true value in a very expensive item is them that want such an item and know what it would cost to build / restore
Same as me with the Manx nortons , Im in the middle of buying another 2 and people would think i have lost the plot paying soooo much for a bike i will never race , but to them that know there worth every penny
08-12-2010, 07:37 PM
#70
10K+ Poster!!
i for a long time used to think chip was an arrogant wanker, but over the years, came to realise, he isnt, he's actually very intelligent, and makes a lot of sense, most of the time, and he's funny as well. he is though, a cunt, there is no getting away from that. so my overall impression of him over the years, has gone from arrogant wanker, to intelligent cunt. but obviously i have never met simon in person, only chip on tinternet, although, i have a feeling, there one and the same
08-12-2010, 07:39 PM
#72
It does amuse me that people seem to think that "multi quoting" it somehow a big deal.
You just go a few lines in and write
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then a reply to the bit above like this might be....
then
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to resume the next bit of the quote, takes literally a few seconds (well i guess it does if you are a computer programmer used to things like XML documents that all work in basically the same way so perhaps im taking it for granted a bit just cause of what my job is etc)
Either way, yep you are a bit anal about facts but then I know tons of people who are inc myself if its a subject I know something about.
Im sure though that people think I spent ages writing out replies that have only actually taken me a few seconds, like when people say I have "spent all day on here" when im at work, I might have visited it every few minutes for a few seconds at a time as im flicking between the various windows I have open at work, but that doesnt actually constitute a big percentage of the day, I do actually manage to earn a living at the same time etc
08-12-2010, 07:41 PM
#74
i for a long time used to think chip was an arrogant wanker, but over the years, came to realise, he isnt, he's actually very intelligent, and makes a lot of sense, most of the time, and he's funny as well. he is though, a cunt, there is no getting away from that. so my overall impression of him over the years, has gone from arrogant wanker, to intelligent cunt. but obviously i have never met simon in person, only chip on tinternet, although, i have a feeling, there one and the same
Rather grudgingly I agree.
08-12-2010, 07:41 PM
#75
10K+ Poster!!
The thing is tho , where did i or anyone else say its an investment ?
Its a race car nothing more nothing less
the thing i find quite funny is people saying its not got BTCC race history so not worth as much
Thats exactly why is circa 50k and not 150k
If the car was a gen BTCC car it defo would have been sold without even advertising it
Its a race car nothing more nothing less
the thing i find quite funny is people saying its not got BTCC race history so not worth as much
Thats exactly why is circa 50k and not 150k
If the car was a gen BTCC car it defo would have been sold without even advertising it
How much did Martin Johnson ? I think thats the guy pay for some of the btcc Sierras he owns ? the Texaco livery one that was for sale a while back was 65k iirc
I know its not going to be as mint as yours, or atleast I wouldn't expect it to be as race cars never are but that would be a good investment in my eyes as if your going to buy a car and leave it parked up its seems a little pointless if its just going to depreciate.
Its worth what someone wants to pay for it I guess
08-12-2010, 07:45 PM
#79
he's actually very intelligent, and makes a lot of sense, most of the time, and he's funny as well. he is though, a cunt, there is no getting away from that. so my overall impression of him over the years, has gone from arrogant wanker, to intelligent cunt. but obviously i have never met simon in person, only chip on tinternet, although, i have a feeling, there one and the same
I guess the only difference is that through a combination of being a lot faster typer than most people, and spending a lot more time at work in front of a PC than most people, on here it means that my viewpoint comes across a bigger percentage of the time than it would in a conversation down the pub where everyone has equal time to chat etc.
08-12-2010, 07:46 PM
#80
Shut it you tight scotts cunt
People Judge my finances all the time and say im loaded when i am not , who gives a shit what people think
Plus it was a genralisation rather that a personal dig at you , you skint fucker
Ps, Pick the spelling mistakes out of that lot, lol
Last edited by Mr RS500; 08-12-2010 at 07:49 PM.