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Old 29-11-2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nuttynil
What sort of money are them link ecu s with loom please danny
Theres a couple of choices mate depending on what you need it for??
A limited offer at the moment is £1000+ vat fitted and mapped for a g4 atom witch is a very good upgrade for an rs turbo or similar and the g4 storm with built in 4 bar map sensor and loads of other features good enough to run any spec cossie etc is £1250+vat fitted with custom loom to your car and mapped+whatever parts you may need like coil pack and leads for the wasted spark etc...


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well the last couple of weeks have been eventfull, luke managed to get the link ecu fitted which solved the miss fire problems and basicly change the whole running of the car, so he set about mapping. to cut a long story short i fitted a pre turbo oil filter which has turned out to be a big mistake!!!!
the filter blocked and starved the turbo of oil over heating and snapping the sharft so of it goes to cr's for a rebuild!

i was really looking forward to driving her home yesterday but i guess i'll just have to wait.
Old 12-12-2010, 01:04 PM
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keep with it mate it will get there in the end
luke mapped my car and it goes the bollocks!
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Sounds good mate what pre filter did you use?

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Old 12-12-2010, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny2white
well the last couple of weeks have been eventfull, luke managed to get the link ecu fitted which solved the miss fire problems and basicly change the whole running of the car, so he set about mapping. to cut a long story short i fitted a pre turbo oil filter which has turned out to be a big mistake!!!!
the filter blocked and starved the turbo of oil over heating and snapping the sharft so of it goes to cr's for a rebuild!

i was really looking forward to driving her home yesterday but i guess i'll just have to wait.
The filter has done its job perfectly then - you need to find out what caused blockage and fix that

I know how frustrating these cars can be, keep your chin up dude
Old 12-12-2010, 01:52 PM
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id never fit one of those turbo filters anyway, ford never used them so i dont see why fitting them now would help, touch wood you get it sorted soon pal and see some good figures
Old 12-12-2010, 03:09 PM
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I think a few manufacturers now fit them as OEM mate.

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Old 12-12-2010, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
I think a few manufacturers now fit them as OEM mate.

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yea but what dont they fit on new cars? the stupid electric complicated cunts!
Old 12-12-2010, 03:20 PM
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lol, point is they obviously deem the extra money to be worth while and fit the filter to extend turbo life.

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Old 12-12-2010, 03:25 PM
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One bit of crap through a GT turbo will fuck it so a filter is a a very worthwhile mod really.
Old 12-12-2010, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by tiny2white
but I've noticed that on idle the t4 ticks over better than my t34.48 don't know it's internals maybe roller?
We will see tomo
lower pumping losses so more torque available for the crank.
the restrictor would be long gone though, even if its not having an adverse effect on performance
Old 12-12-2010, 04:15 PM
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i m off to EP tomorrow to let Luke work his magic, all loaded up just need to get a bit more fuel and away we go early start though
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I will pop in on my way home from Spec-R on Friday.

Just need to tell them lol

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Old 12-12-2010, 05:03 PM
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blockage was caused by alloy fileings the only thing i can think of is the new inlet cam bedding in on the cam caps or because it was a 4x4 cam with spacer! the thing is the bits of alloy was so small it wouldn't have caused a problem to the turbo so kind of wish i hadn't of fitted the filter now.

chins up any how and trust luke to do an outstanding job he showed me the figures before the turbo gave up and they looked wicked, nearly 200ft lbs at 2000rpm boosting hard at 3500rpm and he still had some tinkering to do says he'll get it better than that.

just a bit gutted cos i had planned a round trip to see the boys this weekend to show her off hopefully next weekend
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Real sorry to read about your problems mate

Will be good once its finished

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Originally Posted by tiny2white
blockage was caused by alloy fileings the only thing i can think of is the new inlet cam bedding in on the cam caps or because it was a 4x4 cam with spacer! the thing is the bits of alloy was so small it wouldn't have caused a problem to the turbo so kind of wish i hadn't of fitted the filter now.

chins up any how and trust luke to do an outstanding job he showed me the figures before the turbo gave up and they looked wicked, nearly 200ft lbs at 2000rpm boosting hard at 3500rpm and he still had some tinkering to do says he'll get it better than that.

just a bit gutted cos i had planned a round trip to see the boys this weekend to show her off hopefully next weekend
gutted about the turbo mate have you not got a magnetic sump plug?? i have one on my nova and when running in the engine it was amazing how much it picked up

figures sound good also
Old 12-12-2010, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryHurn
gutted about the turbo mate have you not got a magnetic sump plug?? i have one on my nova and when running in the engine it was amazing how much it picked up

figures sound good also
would'nt have collected alloy bits though
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Originally Posted by B13 JUS
would'nt have collected alloy bits though
very true my mistake i miss read
Old 12-12-2010, 07:25 PM
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them bailey filter things dont take long to clog up, regular taking off and cleaning in pot of cleaner is required.
Old 12-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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The oil pressure is a little low too so we are going to give it a quick check over but as said it doesnt take long to clog the turbo pre filters and should have been checked/cleaned after the last running in oil change..
The car was doing well just before the turbo let go,2.5 bar of boost by 4050 rpm and 420lb ft and this was well before the ignition map and afrs were optimised so my original fig of 450/450 might still be on?
It wont take long to whip the sump off and check theres no excess wear anywhere,then chuck it back in a re fit the rebuilt turbo and finish the map..


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Any room for a ACT check on Friday around 3pm Danny ?

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Originally Posted by JoeRS22
them bailey filter things dont take long to clog up, regular taking off and cleaning in pot of cleaner is required.
They un-screw in half and actually have quite a coarse mesh inside, I've never had one clog up tbh. If you get particles that big in there then there's problems elsewhere.
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cant i just not use one on example a t34?
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Originally Posted by tiny2white
blockage was caused by alloy fileings the only thing i can think of is the new inlet cam bedding in
Are cosworth cams alloy??? and has the engine just been rebuilt? If you have filings in the oil and it is from the cams/buckets the are fecked. Remember to change your oil!


Any thing that filter catches would have done the turbo no good, especially if its a roller bearing turbo.

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Was the turbo fed from the head?
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
They un-screw in half and actually have quite a coarse mesh inside, I've never had one clog up tbh. If you get particles that big in there then there's problems elsewhere.
As soon as the turbo went it was the first place we looked and took photos as soon as we split it in half and there was a lot of unmagnetic fillings in there..
We drained the oil from the engine and it was as clean as a whistle so then put fresh oil in and done an independent oil pressure check to reveal only 50 psi at revs so said a check over with sump off was needed..

As soon as i saw all the shit in the gauze i knew there must be problems but in all fairness the engine sounded sweet!!


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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Was the turbo fed from the head?
No mate 2wd set up..



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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
As soon as the turbo went it was the first place we looked and took photos as soon as we split it in half and there was a lot of unmagnetic fillings in there..
We drained the oil from the engine and it was as clean as a whistle so then put fresh oil in and done an independent oil pressure check to reveal only 50 psi at revs so said a check over with sump off was needed..

As soon as i saw all the shit in the gauze i knew there must be problems but in all fairness the engine sounded sweet!!


cheers danny
As asked previously, was the turbo fed from the head or block? I wouldn't run that again without knowing what the deal is, I'm sure you'd agree?

Edited to say I read the post above... Where have the debris come from if it's fead from the main gallery?

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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
As asked previously, was the turbo fed from the head or block? I wouldn't run that again without knowing what the deal is, I'm sure you'd agree?

Edited to say I read the post above... Where have the debris come from if it's fead from the main gallery?
Thats the worry mate??
The owner and his dad built the engine and it seems strong but need to work out where the shit has come from..
Where there smoke theres fire!!and where there debris in the main oil gallery theres always damage or wear somewhere...


cheers danny
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Originally Posted by Danny @ Enhanced Performance
Thats the worry mate??
The owner and his dad built the engine and it seems strong but need to work out where the shit has come from..
Where there smoke theres fire!!and where there debris in the main oil gallery theres always damage or wear somewhere...


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Dirty build maybe? I'd be having the sump off and taking a look!
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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Dirty build maybe? I'd be having the sump off and taking a look!
Were going too have the sump of check all the bigs and mains and the oil pump lid and fit a new turbo feed,cant see what else we can do really if all that looks ok?
I wondered if the block has had some machining and the gallery hadnt been cleaned out and a new ball bearing put in but luke has asked the questions..


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please excuse my ignorance, but how come the oil filter wouldnt trap stuff big enough to clog the pre turbo filter?
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This happend to my bros rs turbo when he fitted a pre turbo filter it clogged up and it was the big end bearings that caused it.
Wierd as the engine still sounded sweet and still pulled well just lots of smoke lol

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Bad shame about the turbo... cars are a pain in the ass !
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simon, let me know when you want the s8 back
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Dan, I will send you a PM now
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
please excuse my ignorance, but how come the oil filter wouldnt trap stuff big enough to clog the pre turbo filter?
Depends where the filter is in the system mate, in this case the oil is filtered from the sump, travels round the engine with a take off to the turbo and then into the sump,

If the turbo feed is from the head oil has more or less been around the engine with a gallery to the head, round part of the head and into the turbo, plenty of opportunity to fill the pre filter.

The worry is where its come from, a dirty build (bottom end) would be iron filings, a dirty head build would be aluminium (if the head has been faced or ported?), is the oil pump aluminium on the YB?

Dirty engine builds are the primary cause of early engine failure, bearing wear is first apparent with low oil pressure, knocking with severe wear.

I suspect, oil pump (if its ali), head swarf or wear (if the cams run direct in the head), swarf is bad either way.

Hope its nothing too major mate as it sounds like it was making really good progress!

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Originally Posted by Martin-Hadland
Dirty build maybe? I'd be having the sump off and taking a look!
Engine was literally built in a bubble no head work done and no machining to bottom end,
existing shells/bearings were used as they had hardly seen any use the only reason the engine was stripped was to fix the key way on the crank.
pistons had cut outs while it was stripped but these were checked and cleaned


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The worry is where its come from, a dirty build (bottom end) would be iron filings, a dirty head build would be aluminium (if the head has been faced or ported?), is the oil pump aluminium on the YB?

Dirty engine builds are the primary cause of early engine failure, bearing wear is first apparent with low oil pressure, knocking with severe wear.

I suspect, oil pump (if its ali), head swarf or wear (if the cams run direct in the head), swarf is bad either way.

Hope its nothing too major mate as it sounds like it was making really good progress!

Rob,
thinking its pump as well now as i used to see a bit more pressure previous to build
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I would have thought as a matter of course once stripped i would have put new bearings in it no matter how little use they did. Hope its not a big fix mate
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I wouldn't, if the bearings show very little to no wear all is good in the world of the bottom end, you introduce more scope for fuck up by changing bearings.

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