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Old 21-11-2010, 11:05 PM
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What happened to these old school tuning companys?

i Know they were quite shit compared to now days tuning, 500bhp on a standard 205, over fueling was so bad flames on idle, and pikey modifications, howcome they aint here today?
Old 21-11-2010, 11:06 PM
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think turbo systems and castle still going,severn valley now an mot place I think
Old 21-11-2010, 11:07 PM
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Tony from Turbo Systems is still around
Old 21-11-2010, 11:07 PM
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you probably just answered your own question!
Old 21-11-2010, 11:10 PM
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My car has had work done by Castle prior to me, far as I know they are not around anymore!

Wasen't impressed just by the receipt, it had an advisory for the cam tensioner being upside down and they diden't even change it!

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Old 21-11-2010, 11:49 PM
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severn valley did work on an r35 gtr in redline mag a few months ago, so there still doing bits..
Old 22-11-2010, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by philram
severn valley did work on an r35 gtr in redline mag a few months ago, so there still doing bits..
And there still painting disgusting colours for parts in the engine bay

That Red r35 had bright orange pipes
Old 22-11-2010, 07:25 AM
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Turbosystems are still going and doing good work - as for Castle i know someone that used them and omfg can they charge for a shit job
Old 22-11-2010, 08:44 AM
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as said Turbosystems still going, Castle closed about 4yrs ago.
Old 22-11-2010, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by R5FORD
Tony from Turbo Systems is still around
Are you sure ? He is conspicuous by his absence here !
Old 22-11-2010, 09:07 AM
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He's too busy killing zombies on his playstation.
Old 22-11-2010, 09:12 AM
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A mate of mine was looking for an escos back in 2000/1 and we went to look at one in bath,in mallard green.

Car was a bit rough around the edges but it had a castle performance badge on the back and fook me it shifted,really quick.even back then it was on about it's 8th owner and had been pinched so hd no history as it was recorded so we didn't know what had been done but I'm guessing now at least 330bhp perhaps a touch more.

He never bought that one but instead bought K135 PTR which I believe is know owned by a tuning firm as a track car?I did see it on fastford mag a few years back.was a nice car that,he spent some cash on it!!!!
Old 22-11-2010, 11:11 AM
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The moaning sod is still going

He ain't done a bad job on my car

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Old 22-11-2010, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vaughant
A mate of mine was looking for an escos back in 2000/1 and we went to look at one in bath,in mallard green.

Car was a bit rough around the edges but it had a castle performance badge on the back and fook me it shifted,really quick.even back then it was on about it's 8th owner and had been pinched so hd no history as it was recorded so we didn't know what had been done but I'm guessing now at least 330bhp perhaps a touch more.

He never bought that one but instead bought K135 PTR which I believe is know owned by a tuning firm as a track car?I did see it on fastford mag a few years back.was a nice car that,he spent some cash on it!!!!
just because it had a castle performance sticker on it dont mean its been anywhere near the place
castle performance and turbosystems stickers used to be an extremely common site round here back in the day with them being local companys
never see or even used to see collins performance stickered up cars though which is strange because theyre quite local too
Old 22-11-2010, 03:15 PM
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just like the 1.0 saxos with turbo stickers and vts badges, doesnt actually mean its a turbo vts though
Old 22-11-2010, 03:23 PM
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as said castle went a few years back, so i believe the guy who owned it lost the plot and was giving people there engines back in boxes etc, tbh they did a good job on my bros old frst but they was pricey
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Nowt wrong with 500bhp on a 205 block...
Old 22-11-2010, 03:32 PM
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i know yea but id be scared in this day and age because tha majority have 200's and not really many people run 500 on a 205 anymore do they?
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Originally Posted by crumpet
i know yea but id be scared in this day and age because tha majority have 200's and not really many people run 500 on a 205 anymore do they?
I know a few on here running 470-480, i think the 205blocks are stronger than folks think tbh, but i agree, if i were going for a build from scratch then i'd build it around a 200block..

I ran my old saff @ 440+ for a good while and it's still going today...

I'd defo run one @ 400-450 again...
Old 22-11-2010, 07:48 PM
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steve 4i getting close to 500 on a 205 block.
Old 22-11-2010, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RobL
just because it had a castle performance sticker on it dont mean its been anywhere near the place
castle performance and turbosystems stickers used to be an extremely common site round here back in the day with them being local companys
never see or even used to see collins performance stickered up cars though which is strange because theyre quite local too
No,definatley looked at by them,it had a few bits under the bonnet like a service sticker,when the cambelt was changed by them etc.was a very rapid car,bit laggy but when the boost hit it was a lose traction job,very harsh,old school style with bog boost but fuck all else!!!

Probably went bang a few days later!!
Old 22-11-2010, 08:01 PM
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friend of mine got 500 plus on a 205
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Originally Posted by crumpet
just like the 1.0 saxos with turbo stickers and vts badges, doesnt actually mean its a turbo vts though
But it was a turbo,it was an escos!!!and as I said,it wasn't a sticker it was a proper badge that they used to put on the back of them.from that logic it could well have actually been tuned by them,seeings as the badge said it was!!!
Old 22-11-2010, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by a rs licker
steve 4i getting close to 500 on a 205 block.
Standard pistons and rods?

Originally Posted by vaughant
No,definatley looked at by them,it had a few bits under the bonnet like a service sticker,when the cambelt was changed by them etc.was a very rapid car,bit laggy but when the boost hit it was a lose traction job,very harsh,old school style with bog boost but fuck all else!!!

Probably went bang a few days later!!
Thats how ive read up about a few old tuned cossies lol

Originally Posted by AJC
friend of mine got 500 plus on a 205
standard pistons and rods also? thats mad i thought 200's were the only bottom ends to take 500

Originally Posted by vaughant
But it was a turbo,it was an escos!!!and as I said,it wasn't a sticker it was a proper badge that they used to put on the back of them.from that logic it could well have actually been tuned by them,seeings as the badge said it was!!!
Was only joking bud, i always am, i dont take alot of things seriously
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Originally Posted by crumpet


standard pistons and rods also? thats mad i thought 200's were the only bottom ends to take 500
i think you are under estimating what standard rods & crank can handle

incidentally, Turbo Systems is probably still one of the best around
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Rods will be fine @ 500.........
Old 22-11-2010, 09:16 PM
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lets not forget Graham Goode, brodie brittain racing, Collins, bailey, they were the days, no net, phones, x factor, the magazine feature was everything.
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Originally Posted by crumpet
What happened to these old school tuning companys?

i Know they were quite shit compared to now days tuning, 500bhp on a standard 205, over fueling was so bad flames on idle, and pikey modifications, howcome they aint here today?
I think You just answered your own question.
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Originally Posted by Pete 3dr
Rods will be fine @ 500.........
probably even more!

crank? 700hp?
pistons? 550hp?
Old 22-11-2010, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by philram
severn valley did work on an r35 gtr in redline mag a few months ago, so there still doing bits..

http://madeleytestingstation.co.uk/a...g-station.html

Kevan is into his GT-Rs now
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
probably even more!

crank? 700hp?
pistons? 550hp?
Matt,

Yes i know mate, i was just quoting what he'd quoted after Andy & Steve said they were near 500 where he'd asked if they be ok @ 500...
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so why the fuck have i listened to people in the past saying 400 is the limit for 205's?!

Ive been lookingat holset h1e's and hx35's the norqeigians use to get 450-500bhp, but no ones helping, i doubt i can get 450-500 on l6 and 4 injectors too can i?

cheers for this, really appriciate it, Ive got £400-500 to spend on a turbo but dont know what would be best
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I would say TurboSystems is probably one of the top Cosworth tuners out there, just because Tony isn’t on here all the time doesn’t mean he isn’t around anymore.

Regarding the blocks I think it's more to do with the transmission format that determines what power they can cope with, you wouldn't want to use a 205 block in a 4x4! The 200 block is stronger because it was designed for use in a 4x4 setup, obviously this will be even stronger when being used in 2wd format.

And I seem to remember Karl Norris running over 600bhp on L6 and 4 injectors, the ECU doesn't determine the power you can make.
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Turbosystems were/are NOT a shit company!

Why would you say they are?
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Originally Posted by crumpet
so why the fuck have i listened to people in the past saying 400 is the limit for 205's?!

Ive been lookingat holset h1e's and hx35's the norqeigians use to get 450-500bhp, but no ones helping, i doubt i can get 450-500 on l6 and 4 injectors too can i?

cheers for this, really appriciate it, Ive got £400-500 to spend on a turbo but dont know what would be best
t34 or t35,but then i know someone got a brand new t3 stage 1 hybride for sale.that might do the 400 mark.

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Originally Posted by MOHAMMED
t34 or t35,but then i know someone got a brand new t3 stage 1 hybride for sale.that might do the 400 mark.
400 bhp from a T3? Have you been smoking crack?
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as above ^^^

ive been looking at lee2cossies gt30/t4 anyway, internally gated etc,but i only have £500 to spend where as he wants £600 for it, would be perfect fo me though!
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I always forget that turbo systems occasionally tuned cars as well as making a fortune selling sunstrips
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Loved Castle Performance back in the day, they did loads of work on my old Escort Turbo BAO16T
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Originally Posted by a rs licker
steve 4i getting close to 500 on a 205 block.
I bet Tony is muttering about that lol

Only changed the turbo to intercooler pipe and intercooler.

Nobody has touched the map

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