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Old 16-10-2010 | 12:55 PM
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bought a snap on 150 amp but not to sure what gas to use?so what gas do you use? i heard argon na co2 mix is good on mild steel?
Old 16-10-2010 | 01:05 PM
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BOC Argoshield Light for me.

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Old 16-10-2010 | 01:09 PM
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Yea, the common mix are Argoshield by BOC or Cougar5 by Air Products
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95 co 5 argon
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i go to a fire extinguisher place and get a massive bottle for Ł45 inc the bottle of co2

lasts years!

my welds come out mint too

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Originally Posted by Chris Latham
BOC Argoshield Light for me.

Top notch
Same here

And use a good quality wire eg B.O.C or other, NOT machine Mart or Sunday market specials.

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CO2
From the Pub I guess??
Old 16-10-2010 | 02:43 PM
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I was talking to a mate last night (professional welder) who told me pub gas was only about 30% CO˛, and the rest nitrogen. I guess nitrogen is fairly inert, but it doesn't sound clever to me.
He said a carbon dioxide/argon mix with a little bit of oxygen was best for mig welding, and also advised to avoid machine mart by a reasonable distance
Old 16-10-2010 | 03:21 PM
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i use co2 and my welds are fine
Old 16-10-2010 | 03:51 PM
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im fairley sure the gas we use at work is a mix of argon, oxygen and co2 i think, we get if from engineering and welding supplies aka engweld. comes in various sizes just go in and ask for a bottle of mig weld. comes in a bright blue bottle already mixed!
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andy130, do you have a regulator and flowmeter with your Mig? If you want to use pub gas it's a totally different fixture vs the fixture you would get on proper Mig gas.

And if it's a hobby you don't to be spending Ł20 a month on a gas contract. Keygas in Wrexham do Ł1.50/month rental + VAT for a 10 litre of properly compressed gas - that's only Ł20 a year it's costing you to sit there not being used rather than Ł200 a year.

Oh and your Snap-on Mig is probably set up for disposables, again a totally different connection.

One last thing: Snap-on make good tools, but the Migs they sell are a cheap horrid brand re-badged. Or at least this was the state of affairs last time I bothered checking.
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ArgoSheild for me.
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Originally Posted by TurboShed
andy130, do you have a regulator and flowmeter with your Mig? If you want to use pub gas it's a totally different fixture vs the fixture you would get on proper Mig gas.

And if it's a hobby you don't to be spending Ł20 a month on a gas contract. Keygas in Wrexham do Ł1.50/month rental + VAT for a 10 litre of properly compressed gas - that's only Ł20 a year it's costing you to sit there not being used rather than Ł200 a year.

Oh and your Snap-on Mig is probably set up for disposables, again a totally different connection.

One last thing: Snap-on make good tools, but the Migs they sell are a cheap horrid brand re-badged. Or at least this was the state of affairs last time I bothered checking.

i have the same welder snapon had it 10years lays a lovely weld never let me down once i use co2
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just co2
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Originally Posted by focusv8

And use a good quality wire eg B.O.C or other, NOT machine Mart or Sunday market specials:
ha ha i use machine mart wire & co2,there is nothing wrong with my welding
Old 16-10-2010 | 07:33 PM
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Krystal 12 is what I use.
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Originally Posted by focusv8
From the Pub I guess??
Yep, well got a bottle from our air pistol which we are using at the mo but have a pub 5 doors down to flagged down Mr Fizzy one day and got a bottle for peanuts.

Welds aren't too bad but could be better with an argon mix of sort... so fricking expensive for people who dont weld everyday.
Old 16-10-2010 | 09:00 PM
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Boc argoshield light will shield 1mm to 5mm steel just fine any thicker and i use boc argoshield universal
I use a boc 180amp welder and boc wire
Old 16-10-2010 | 10:15 PM
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argoshield universal.. is what i use.

thanks steven
Old 16-10-2010 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by andy escos
ha ha i use machine mart wire & co2,there is nothing wrong with my welding
We use Machine Mart wire and CO2 and our welding is fine


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Old 16-10-2010 | 10:39 PM
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cheers guys
Old 16-10-2010 | 10:41 PM
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argon sheild on both the migs i got
Old 16-10-2010 | 10:44 PM
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i find i can lay a much fatter weld with no blow through of the metal at all with argoshield but when i use co2 i still get a decent weld but metal tends to blow through easier, still get good penetration tho
Old 17-10-2010 | 09:29 AM
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we use argoshield at work, but at home i use one of the many C02 fire extingushers that my old man gets that are out of test for conventional use. 2 seals for the regulator and a tie wrap. even to get new gas this way would only cost a couple of quid a refill.
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