halal meat slaughter
16-10-2010, 02:00 PM
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Southall are the only Mcdonalds in the UK serving Halal meat. It's a trial that started in 2007.
http://www.makeupyourownmind.co.uk/q...alal#question1
http://www.makeupyourownmind.co.uk/q...alal#question1
16-10-2010, 02:02 PM
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Weather?
What the chuff has the weather got to do with transporting a live pig?
Of the many times Ive seen pigs being transported, I have never seen a slurry of melted ice and pig shit flowing out the back of the wagon.
I will go so far as to agree with you on the excess red meat being a possible cause of heart disease and bowel/colon cancer, but live pigs being frozen to the back of a wagon and being cut out alive, I shall leave to your Linda McCartney esque fantasies.
What the chuff has the weather got to do with transporting a live pig?
Of the many times Ive seen pigs being transported, I have never seen a slurry of melted ice and pig shit flowing out the back of the wagon.
I will go so far as to agree with you on the excess red meat being a possible cause of heart disease and bowel/colon cancer, but live pigs being frozen to the back of a wagon and being cut out alive, I shall leave to your Linda McCartney esque fantasies.
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16-10-2010, 02:02 PM
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right so an animal has been living in a field or in a battery type set up, time comes to take them to get slaughtered and they spend big money on either transporting them on ice which makes no sense or using a refridgerated trailer that operates so cold it freezes the animals to it? To then spend more time hacking off the legs and cos they'll have no legs they'll then need to spend more time and effort actually getting them into the holding area before killing them? I think you'll find that wouldnt happen tbh!
16-10-2010, 02:04 PM
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16-10-2010, 02:10 PM
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they dont live in a field, they 'live' packed on each other. When on the wagon, in winter temperatures drop so the metal of the wagon literally freezes. Its not THAT hard to understand.
and yes mate it happens
and yes mate it happens
16-10-2010, 02:19 PM
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so the wagons there moved in are all steel construction with no wood? Like the ones that are used to move livestock?
16-10-2010, 02:27 PM
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Would you actually believe that there is researh and reports into the temperatures that pigs experience when being transported in a truck.
I wouldnt have, until I just found it here:
http://www.thepigsite.com/articles/3...western-canada
Now this is research from Canada - where it gets just slightly colder than the UK from time to time.
Id be interested to read about examples of the pigs freezing their trotters to the floor of a truck, as quite frankly, I think its just a BS story made up by a vegan somewhere on the planet to try and convert the barbaric meat eaters among us. A story that you seem to believe.
I wouldnt have, until I just found it here:
http://www.thepigsite.com/articles/3...western-canada
Now this is research from Canada - where it gets just slightly colder than the UK from time to time.
Id be interested to read about examples of the pigs freezing their trotters to the floor of a truck, as quite frankly, I think its just a BS story made up by a vegan somewhere on the planet to try and convert the barbaric meat eaters among us. A story that you seem to believe.
16-10-2010, 02:58 PM
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You mean the book thats supposed to be a diet guide, but has been lambasted by critics for being nothing more than a propaganda leaflet for veganism?
Ill give it a miss thanks.
Ill give it a miss thanks.
16-10-2010, 04:13 PM
#96
Says the one saying pigs freeze to lorries and eating meat causes cancer. You're just the type of vegetarian I hate, the type that tries to push their beliefs onto no-veggi's.
How about some proof behind your jackanory stories, as apparently you're not a thick cunt?
How about some proof behind your jackanory stories, as apparently you're not a thick cunt?
16-10-2010, 04:30 PM
#97
so either they are lieing or the person doing the reserch didn't do it well
16-10-2010, 04:31 PM
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Fuck me, just watched that video.
Horrified, the video looking directly at the cows face as he slits its throat, the poor fucker.
Christ, never wanted to see that, unbelievable.
Horrified, the video looking directly at the cows face as he slits its throat, the poor fucker.
Christ, never wanted to see that, unbelievable.
16-10-2010, 04:33 PM
#99
the incisors and canines are from carnivores and the molars are from herbivores and we've evolved a long way since we were first about around 20,000 years ago
16-10-2010, 09:36 PM
#101
the fact is that those cattle are bread to be slaughtered for meat.
so even if its a bolt of lightning to the head, a bolt shot into the head, or having its throat slit, most people dont think about those things when they are in the shops buying the meat.
well, its dead, might as well eat it etc...
ignorance is bliss.
its only cos its been made public how its done that everyone jumps on the bandwagon saying, yeah ban it and all that shit. when i reality those very people have been supporting those methods for years by buying the meat...
i personally dont like to see an animal, or anything suffer. but thats what they are there for. food!
say you were somehow lost in the jungle, starving hungry on the verge of death and you managed to trap an animal. with limited tools, how would you go about killing it so you could eat it?
bugger it to death? tickle it? kick? smash its head in with a stone etc?
or pull out your pocket stungun and give it a quick zap?
or just roast it alive as you were to pussy to do the deed!
i am trying to make a point here, but im not sure if its getting accross
16-10-2010, 09:46 PM
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yeah, but i bet they didnt bat an eye when they went shopping to buy a joint of meat for the sunday roast tomorrow!
the fact is that those cattle are bread to be slaughtered for meat.
so even if its a bolt of lightning to the head, a bolt shot into the head, or having its throat slit, most people dont think about those things when they are in the shops buying the meat.
well, its dead, might as well eat it etc...
ignorance is bliss.
its only cos its been made public how its done that everyone jumps on the bandwagon saying, yeah ban it and all that shit. when i reality those very people have been supporting those methods for years by buying the meat...
i personally dont like to see an animal, or anything suffer. but thats what they are there for. food!
say you were somehow lost in the jungle, starving hungry on the verge of death and you managed to trap an animal. with limited tools, how would you go about killing it so you could eat it?
bugger it to death? tickle it? kick? smash its head in with a stone etc?
or pull out your pocket stungun and give it a quick zap?
or just roast it alive as you were to pussy to do the deed!
i am trying to make a point here, but im not sure if its getting accross
the fact is that those cattle are bread to be slaughtered for meat.
so even if its a bolt of lightning to the head, a bolt shot into the head, or having its throat slit, most people dont think about those things when they are in the shops buying the meat.
well, its dead, might as well eat it etc...
ignorance is bliss.
its only cos its been made public how its done that everyone jumps on the bandwagon saying, yeah ban it and all that shit. when i reality those very people have been supporting those methods for years by buying the meat...
i personally dont like to see an animal, or anything suffer. but thats what they are there for. food!
say you were somehow lost in the jungle, starving hungry on the verge of death and you managed to trap an animal. with limited tools, how would you go about killing it so you could eat it?
bugger it to death? tickle it? kick? smash its head in with a stone etc?
or pull out your pocket stungun and give it a quick zap?
or just roast it alive as you were to pussy to do the deed!
i am trying to make a point here, but im not sure if its getting accross
16-10-2010, 10:00 PM
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yes exactly, it is an eye opener.
but say your in the supermarket and they have one steak for example that costs Ł9, and one that costs Ł5 but is halal (ok it doesnt say that it is) your gonna go for the cheaper option in most cases.
but the person purchasing the meat just thinks, well ive saved myself Ł4 there, bargain.
not, well that cow probably just had its head hacked off, blood and gore everywhere while the more expensive meat was was stroked and carressed until its poor heart gave out in an instant so it felt no pain and died in a loving way with someone that cares for it...
but say your in the supermarket and they have one steak for example that costs Ł9, and one that costs Ł5 but is halal (ok it doesnt say that it is) your gonna go for the cheaper option in most cases.
but the person purchasing the meat just thinks, well ive saved myself Ł4 there, bargain.
not, well that cow probably just had its head hacked off, blood and gore everywhere while the more expensive meat was was stroked and carressed until its poor heart gave out in an instant so it felt no pain and died in a loving way with someone that cares for it...
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16-10-2010, 10:04 PM
#106
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Sorry for saying that as a meat eater i dont think nore want to how the animal died.
I tried to be a vegitarian and my missis could'nt stand the farts so she put me back on the meat
I tried to be a vegitarian and my missis could'nt stand the farts so she put me back on the meat
16-10-2010, 10:10 PM
#107
we are omnivores mate, we have 4 upper/lower insicors to cut meat, 4 canines to grip flesh to tear from whatever it's currently attached to, and then, depending on how far up the list of teeth you are, 4 pre molars to mash up the food and 8 molars to chew food properly
the incisors and canines are from carnivores and the molars are from herbivores and we've evolved a long way since we were first about around 20,000 years ago
the incisors and canines are from carnivores and the molars are from herbivores and we've evolved a long way since we were first about around 20,000 years ago
16-10-2010, 10:12 PM
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yes exactly, it is an eye opener.
but say your in the supermarket and they have one steak for example that costs Ł9, and one that costs Ł5 but is halal (ok it doesnt say that it is) your gonna go for the cheaper option in most cases.
but the person purchasing the meat just thinks, well ive saved myself Ł4 there, bargain.
not, well that cow probably just had its head hacked off, blood and gore everywhere while the more expensive meat was was stroked and carressed until its poor heart gave out in an instant so it felt no pain and died in a loving way with someone that cares for it...
but say your in the supermarket and they have one steak for example that costs Ł9, and one that costs Ł5 but is halal (ok it doesnt say that it is) your gonna go for the cheaper option in most cases.
but the person purchasing the meat just thinks, well ive saved myself Ł4 there, bargain.
not, well that cow probably just had its head hacked off, blood and gore everywhere while the more expensive meat was was stroked and carressed until its poor heart gave out in an instant so it felt no pain and died in a loving way with someone that cares for it...
16-10-2010, 10:43 PM
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16-10-2010, 10:53 PM
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16-10-2010, 11:06 PM
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if they were bought from the same place id expect them to be the same, but where i live the local place is reasonable, but if im away with work and drop in for a boohna or whatever, the price can vary by a few quid!
eitherway, i know how live stock is killed/slaughtered (maybe why its called slaughtering?) and i still buy things with meat in them.
eitherway, i know how live stock is killed/slaughtered (maybe why its called slaughtering?) and i still buy things with meat in them.
16-10-2010, 11:16 PM
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if they were bought from the same place id expect them to be the same, but where i live the local place is reasonable, but if im away with work and drop in for a boohna or whatever, the price can vary by a few quid!
eitherway, i know how live stock is killed/slaughtered (maybe why its called slaughtering?) and i still buy things with meat in them.
eitherway, i know how live stock is killed/slaughtered (maybe why its called slaughtering?) and i still buy things with meat in them.
16-10-2010, 11:24 PM
#118
oh well if it was in a book then it must be true
so you started with saying live pigs are transported in trucks with ice causing them to stick to the truck, then upon being questioned about it you changed your story to the weather causing the metal trucks to freeze the pigs to them?
best laugh ive had in ages you tool
so you started with saying live pigs are transported in trucks with ice causing them to stick to the truck, then upon being questioned about it you changed your story to the weather causing the metal trucks to freeze the pigs to them?
best laugh ive had in ages you tool
16-10-2010, 11:34 PM
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Religeon causing problems again !
This. ^^
Lets remove religion from the equation.
Lets say an animal processing plant existed that slaughtered animals in this way simply because it were perhaps "cheaper", you could count in milliseconds how long it would take for it to be shut down and the owners sent to prison.
As its linked with religion, its untouchable by our nanny state.
Lets remove religion from the equation.
Lets say an animal processing plant existed that slaughtered animals in this way simply because it were perhaps "cheaper", you could count in milliseconds how long it would take for it to be shut down and the owners sent to prison.
As its linked with religion, its untouchable by our nanny state.
I have to agree with your comment above Fred.
My 2p worth has to be the way the animals are actually killed. The least we could do, is to kill the animals in the most humane way possible. Surely that is the right thing to do? Not to just do it in a barbaric manner, because some dodgy religeon determines it should be done a certain way?
I wish this government would get a grip on things like this as these are the easist babaric religeous based rituals to easily ban, without being accused of being racist, or at least the argument for trying to keep this religeous ritual would be pretty hard to justify after people had seen the aforementioned footage.
