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Old 10-10-2010, 01:41 PM
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Weird one this, I didn't know there was any sort of problem with my nephew 'til today, and my sis and her hubby are a little upset.

He's 3 now and his speech is not as advanced at it should be. He started pre-school a few weeks back and it's become obvious that the other kids are ahead of him, and they've been advised to take him to a speech therapist. He talks ok but it's just a bit hard to understand him at times, which makes him frustrated. I wouldn't say it's a speech impediment, more just not pronouncing his words properly?

He's also a little bastard at times with his behavior, ie PROPER hyper and naughty. I wonder if the two are somewhat related?

He's bright enough though, for example he is a dab hand at Angry Birds on my iPhone!!

I told 'em I blame the parents, which went down well........
Old 10-10-2010, 01:48 PM
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All kids come on at different ages. I sometimes find my sons friends hard to understand.

My 3rd child is 2 and a half and his talking is brilliant as he has 2 older bothers to babble with non stop
Old 10-10-2010, 01:54 PM
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If the wee boy is there only child he certainly wont be advanced as as mentioned if they have an older sibling to natter with

I blame the parents ....... Brilliant tell them its considered as child abuse by not having conversations with the wee one slowing his progression

Shouldnt want it too much cause once they start talking you cant shut the little fuckers up LOL

Will be fine and will quickly get better at nursery
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He's got a little brother who's not long turned 1, and he's a cracking little lad. Having his older brother has obviously helped him along, but we just don't want him to pick up on any MORE of his older brothers naughty behavior!! He sees Ben throwing things around and tries to copy him already.....
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He could well suffer from ADHD ,as these kids are normally naughty and hyper and very clever with it,all they need to do is ask there GP to refer them to the local hospital to see a child psycholigist who will test him ,as its a medical condition not a bad parenting one which does improve with age

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Cheers for the input fellas!! I've got a couple of things to google now anyway!

Do you think me telling him I'll sell him to the circus if he doesn't behave might have affected him?
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could be any number of things or could be nothing and he catches up. needs proper assessment. does the school have a SEN department or co-ordinator/liason? i know its quite young but they may be able to do something to rule things out.
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Been there dine that with junior, he had the same synptoms and he's turned out alright.

You go to a few sessions with a bod who works out the best way to teach them, encouragement or removal of pivileges and how to calm them down and leave it for 20 minutes everytime they get rowdy and all sorts of other stuff.

Plenty of kids get it so it's not a difinitive "he's going to be a spaz for the rest of his life" like some will tell you.

The hardest partabout it is going to the meets wh h ended up being held every week in the afternoons so I had to get every thursday afternnon out from work, last about. 10 weeks before the all clear and none of this naughty step/corner bollocks either.

Good luck and tell themnot to worry
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ive got 4 young kids mal, and they all did different things at different ages, my second youngest is 9, she is super intelligent, but never said a lot, and still doesnt tbh. then there is my youngest, she's 5, and she never shut up from an early age, still now, she can talk for england, but intelligence wise, its not she's daft, she just cant be arsed, and wont learn. she started infants a few weeks back, and they have a yellow card and red card system, for when they step out of line, she got a red card, every day, for the first week, i swear to god. the teacher even said to me one day, 'could you have a world with halle, everytime i ask her to do anything, she just looks at me, says no, and walks off and starts playing with the toys', i told her, 'welcome to my world, i can have a word yes, but it wont make a bit of difference'. but in recent weeks, the red cards have slowed down, and she even got a couple of 'well done' cards.

all kids are different mate, and at 3, i wouldnt be overly worried about your nephew, he may just be a late developer.
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remember my couson did,ent say a word till he was 5 every1 thought he was mute now cant shut the fuker up lol
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He is a late developer bless him, he's only been using his potty about a month! Being their first child he's been spoilt rotten, so I've put that down to his bad behavior up to now. They've done all the naughty step stuff but it hasn't worked. He hits and bites his mum and dad too, and his grandparents, but never me funnily enough! He daren't...

I just hope that it's not an underlying condition, poor little bugger. I've spoken to me sis since and he's in Wednesday to see the speech therapist so we'll take it from there!
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my eldest was really early at doing all the little child stuff so had no problems with him except very bad excema

no2 was very slow at speech (he didnt talk properley or hardly at all till he was 4) we took him to speech therapists and it took a long time,he used to get very upset that we couldnt understand him - he`s about to turn 11 and he doesnt bloody well shut up now,really got on tits 2day.......

no3 was fairly slow at speech also but after no2 we are not too concerned as said they all develop at different speeds

they all have something that concerns a parent as i told my wife as it realy upset her regards 2 & 3 going to school and their speech,at least they are healthy i always told her

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Originally Posted by rsturbo27
remember my couson did,ent say a word till he was 5 every1 thought he was mute now cant shut the fuker up lol
I were supposedly like that as a kid, no one believed I could talk!

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Did he have a dummy until late on? They can massively retard speech.
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No, he never really took to a dummy.
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My lad, now 14 never had a pacifier, his speech could be awkward but this was due to doing the woman thing and engaging the moth before the brain.
He used to get so frustrated and kick up when people couldn't understand him, had speech therapy as well, till I stopped it a sit made him more frustrated, I simply did a deal with him reading books, and made him think about exactly what he was going to say before he started speaking, and if he did this correctly he'd get a smartie, otherwise I got it!!
Within 1 month he was taking his time talking and getting everything perfect, not talking till he knew exactly what he wanted to say, I think the fact I was getting his smarties helped!
Just a thought, might be worth a try ?
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My daughter is now nearly 15 and is in the top 10% of her year (and has been all through her senior school years so far)...... when she was younger we were told she'd need speak therapy as she wouldn't speak...


As said all kids do things at their own speed.


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My cousin had a thing similar to this, whereas she would pronounce words incorrectly : for example, she'd ask for a "frink" instead of a drink, which was really frustrating. She had loads of test on everything that it could be associated with and came back normal, and it was only when my uncle got a specialist to in did they realise that she had a small problem with her hearing. She had a small operation, I think it was just something like Gromits, and some speech classes and she now has almost perfect speech.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Did he have a dummy until late on? They can massively retard speech.
not one of mine have had dummies..thank christ,have friends who have had battles with their kids when trying to get rid of the pacifiers
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has he had his hearing checked or anyone noticed he does'nt respond to people. my friends son has always been a complete terror and just completly mad, his speech has always been quite babyish, when he started pre school they said about his speech and sent to speech theapist and they improved it slightly, then when he was about to start proper school he had his hearing checked and found a problem there. He had to have gromits fitted and hes a completly changed boy. So something worth checking.
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I think its just down to development.
My older brother didnt start talking until he was 2.
My first words were at 11 months! apparently my first word was wheatabix! used to love em.
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my stepson was diagnosed with adhd when he was very young(now 14) he has got alot calmer with age since i have been there for the last 8 years.
he also has a problem with speech.
see the dentist as arron(my boy) has a problem with his jaw that not only afects his speach but also makes him very naisal.

i will add thow dispite his dificultys he is very artistic and is in a mainstream class for art at school and does very well,better than some children that dont have difficulties.
he also loves his xbox 360 lol
actuly he loves anything electrical.
he was bored one day so decided to take the remote for my sony car cd player to bits then back together again,since it still works i have now hiden it lol

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Cheers for the input peeps! I'm deffo gonna suggest a hearing test for the little monkey.
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Originally Posted by 1-PD
He could well suffer from ADHD ,as these kids are normally naughty and hyper and very clever with it,all they need to do is ask there GP to refer them to the local hospital to see a child psycholigist who will test him ,as its a medical condition not a bad parenting one which does improve with age
I appreciate that there are genuine kids who suffer from this, but whilst it is something to consider, I see a few kids who allegedly suffer from it. All I see is badly behaved kids who need some strict parents. Almost as if the Doctor has given them permission to be right royal pains.

He is only 3 mate, give him some time. My lad didn't say much until he was about 3. The 'experts' said there may be a problem, but I just thought give him time. Now he is 6 and perfectly 'normal'(if there is such a thing). My daughter will not shut up and hasn't since she was born almost. She is nearly 5.
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i have 3 kids all are different and all kids develop differently
also no disrespect implied hes a first child and sounds like he may be slightly spoilt (like many first children) if he is a little spoilt then he is possibley just being a little lazy with his speech
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Originally Posted by arch
I appreciate that there are genuine kids who suffer from this, but whilst it is something to consider, I see a few kids who allegedly suffer from it. All I see is badly behaved kids who need some strict parents. Almost as if the Doctor has given them permission to be right royal pains.

yeah I know some parents fly the ADHD flag all too quickly in hope of recieving DLA payments from the goverment ,but its an option to keep in mind if symptoms persist
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My brothers life has been affected long term by a lack of understanding of the conditions talked about by others on here and he's now 28. When he was young he was tongue tied (there the flap of skin underneath you tongue) had no room for manouvre to pronounce words and believe it or not, this was not identified until he was gone 3 and a half! As a result he had to have an operation so cut the said flap of skin and allow movement of his tongue but i think a lot of his inner frustrations had set in and my parents worried as to whether this would be detrimental to his development an future and to be honest i don't think it has helped. He had the op, speech therapy lessons and had to go to a school not that local and as such he didn't develop too many friends and most around him took the piss instead (myself included at times). He struggled through education and always seemed behind and didn't do that great at school but he's a really nice lad who would do anything for anyone and love him too bits BUT i've always wondered and always will wonder if things had been spotted earlier or more emphasis to assist him through the issues he faced would've made him a different person but i'll guess i'll never know.
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A little update! He was at the speech therapist today and it turns out he's actually got a slight lisp!!

He's got to go see a specialist next! Poor little bugger.
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