Chip

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Or massive crippling loan that he can no longer afford and its about to be reposessed.

puma38

i'd imagine the Lambo owner will be putting his car up for sale straight away and be searching the passionford for sale ads as we speak, he's probably even posted his bad experience on lamboowners.com................

or the guy probably uses the car as a daily drive and hasnt given it a single thought since as he's been too busy clearing up his local area of shallow hot girls in his lambo.

although i see your point, its nice to spank an expensive fast car, the fact its been posted leaves you wide open to look like a special edition, where in reality you should keep your personal victory personal and by the sound of it store it away in your wankbank for the future.

Glenn_

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You come out with the best sayings fella.Lol.

Glenn_

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Why havent you got one instead of your posh fiat.

Alps Pacino

threads like these are class, i used to think it was funny beating more expensive cars in my old cossie when i was 19.

I've grown up now though and prefer a car that can do everything rather than just go fast, break and rot lol

FredElliot

Perhaps the Lambo owner wasn't particularly bothered about engaging in a daft traffic light grand prix?

Were they trying? Mind you the bhp/ton is still well in favour of the 500bhp escos, so you would probably still "win" even if they were.

You can tune a skyline to outrun a veyron just as you can have an escos outrun a gallardo. If the owner of the lambo only wanted to buy a car for its outright performance, he would have been sat in a Radical or something else as equally impractical but ludicrously fast wouldnt he?

Im sure its more likely that the lambo owner appreciates the effort needed to make a mid 90s escort outrun a gallardo, than he is to be upset about it.

Porkie

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Ferrari is far superior car to drive and own.

I actually went to buy a Gallardo in the first place.

mind was changed by Karl Verdi before I had driven them both. (weirdly he had 3 Gallardos for sale and no F430's!! weirdest salesman ever... but thanks to him!)

Once I did... one is the real deal.

One is a pretty Audi

mrjenrst

anytime but i'm sure i'm not the first or the last to.

mrjenrst

exactly, dont mean fuck all having a car like that in this day and age.

Porkie

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disagree.

all those kinda people got wiped out in 2007/2008

Supercar prices went through the floor as a result

its far different now.

Chip

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I disagree, even now I could get a loan to buy a Gallardo that I cant really afford and would cripple me with running costs.
Im sure there are still a fair few in the hands of people who cant afford them very comfortably.

mrjenrst

Tbh i dont know the value of them but with a deposit finance wouldnt be unreachable would it

Chip

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And even if you couldnt get car specific finance or an unsecured loan you could always do something stupid like remortage to get one or a secured loan against your house to do so.

(although im sure Porkie is right in that its less common now than a few year ago for people to do so)

Porkie

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Why couldnt Dave have just said. I had a race with a Gallardo and won...

Its so crap that just because the guy had a more expensive car then he is immediantly a cunt who was laughing at Dave, doesn't appreciate Cosworths or cars, has a huge loan, is a spotty teenager or a twat young footballer AND that he was gutted that he lost a race (if there even was one! )

bet he was a nice guy, successful in his job, who was just out for a nice drive, and was smiling at something totally different and didnt even try and race Dave!

Chip

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Cause if that was true then they'd have nothing to look down on him for and would have to accept he'd just been more successful than them which might hurt.
No one likes feeling like a failure after all

georgie1

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the lambo would beat the cossy all day long if it wanted to

DaveEscos

maybe he was laughing at the 'dave + .... sticker on the windscreen with 'helen' scratched out

Porkie

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Disagree.

Its not about being able to get the loan at all.

The type of person who would overstretch themselves got burnt and are reluctant to do it again.

RS Grant

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I agree, this might be a crazy thought for people here to get their head around, but if I have ever seen someone in a proper supercar, Lambo, Ferrari etc.... thats has been visually happy, laughing even (), I've assumed that they're just happy about owning such a special car.

I can 100% guarantee that I would have a perma-grin on my face if I was cutting around in a Lambo or Ferrari... doing 10mph or 110mph, I wouldn't give a toss, I'd be a severely happy man from the moment I opened the garage door to drive it, to the moment I closed the garage door after having gone for a drive.


Cheers,
Grant

Mike C

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Does it really matter in the slightest how he paid for it? Judging by his apparent jovial demeanour, it appears that he is quite happy, and that's the main thing.

mrjenrst

probably was a nice bloke good job and the like, but i'd of still laughed. Same as last time we was at york raceway and a bloke turned up in a scooby with a million bhp and everything from japan cos it's the best and was made to look stupid by a corsa must be the underdog thing

ajamesc

not a real 500bhp cossie with good low down torque it wouldent!

Porkie

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nah mate... they were laughing at you

RS Grant

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Haha... thanks mate, means a lot!!


Cheers,
Grant

FredElliot

The bhp/ton ratios for the two cars say otherwise. Straight line performance and gripp issues aside, a 500bhp escos should have it.

KSA-Cossie

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Aye till the night you meet stucos in downtown dundee on a saturday night wanting to race you for £100 with hong kong frankie telling him "to do eet"

But agree with you whole heartedly grantyman.

FredElliot

I dont think its just the "underdog" thing. Otherwise the Ferrari forums and Lambo forums would have the occasional thread like "upset a zonda owner", etc..

I think once you get to a certain stage of performance/cost of a car, you start to worry less about whether its the fastest thing in an x mile radius, and just enjoy the car for what it is, not what it can beat.

georgie1

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how long before you see the topic my 500bhp escos needs a rebuild

ajamesc

u wont if it was built by someone who knows what there doing and has all the right bits on it i.e diff or diffs and a gearbox to match the power and torque increase!

FredElliot

If its a daily driver and he does partake in traffic light grand prix's, possibly just as often as the Lambo ownser starts a thread "wheres the best place to get a clutch"

mrjenrst

oh without a doubt mate, nothing wrong with having a car to enjoy no matter what the car is. But for some people they buy a car and expect it to be the bollocks and it does make me laugh when they find out it's not.

Dangerous Malcolm..

The main thing in all this is Dave is getting out and having fun! And fair play for having a 'supercar' beating Cossie.

Although putting shit like this in your sig:

Well, it looks like you're pining for her still..... You should have summat like "No more fat stupid birds, EVER!"






Fucking FUNNY!!!!

Porkie

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Don't think there is much in it is there?

I know Escos is about 100kg lighter as std. but once you fit big brakes, bigger wheels and tyres, bigger turbos and stronger transmissions etc etc

then I think you can easily get the Escos upto around same weight with all the leather etc etc

Chip

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Probably higher transmission losses on the escos too Lee.

Porkie

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If you honestly think the Lambo owner thinks ANY different of his car because he 'allegedly' got beat in a 'race' in heavy traffic on the M25 then you are crazy...

(I know the traffic was heavy and where dave was as he posted on facebook BEFORE the 'race' had happened)


If Dave was cruising along happily and a Saxo VTS 'raced' him and won. Do you think he would love his car any less?

massivewangers

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These threads do make me laugh.

People take it so seriously, or just has to have a dig, be it at the Lambo owner, or at the OP.

Maybe it would be nice to just sit back and think that it's quite cool that an Escort that was designed 20 years ago, with the right bits fitted, can still cut it with a car that cost about £90k more when new.

Seems that people do nothing but pick holes and can't just enjoy something for what it is...FUN.

XRT_si

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That's a very good point.

I'd like to think Dave would commend the Saxo as being surprisingly nippy that left him impressed rather than 'upset' and wanting to sell his Escos.

It's nice beating expensive matierial though!

Porkie

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of course its cool! its v cool that genuine supercar performance can be had out of Cossies still.

Me and Martin raced an Enzo on the Gumball few years back.

but we were not slagging him off afterwards and saying that he is a kiddy fiddler and robs old ladies to pay for the finance on it!!!!

and we certainly didnt 'wipe the smile' off his face! he was smiling all the time! before, during and after!

afterwards he came over, said he was amazed at Marts Escort. Asked if we were running 'Nitro' and had a little sit in it and me and mart sat in his Enzo (VERY VERY COOL!)

he thought no less of us and we thought no less of him despite him having a £750k car...

Just car enthusiasts. Like the Lambo owner probably was...


But thats not the story Dave is telling is it... which is why I piped up!

Benni

Porkie's getting more upset than the Lambo' owner.

Benni.

FredElliot

As the weather has brightened up and he has a 430 soft top, I can think of a way of releasing the stress and getting a smile back on his face