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Old 02-10-2010, 06:28 PM
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some bint has just been round saying she's representing the gas company in regards to giving us a grant for insulation

ok, so i thought i'd give it a whirl and see what the crack was, being that i've already been quoted £2500 to properly insulate the loft with a window in it and vents and that sort of stuff to a rating where it will be useable if i do a loft conversion

so i asked a few question and she just said it was a european thing and the gas companies had already given them the pot of money and they were now dishing it out to eligable properties, yeah right

she first said that it would cost around £2k if i were to get someone to do it but the grant she was garanteeing me would give me an 80% cover of the cost

so some questions later she said the grant would leave me to pay a total of £200, but surely that's only 10%?

no no no, you'd only have to pay £199 and that would cover your 20%

them numbers don't add up so i was about to shut the door in her face but the kids started to run about the place

anyway, she ended up going upstairs to look at the loft, then she said she knew it would be 55 sq/m and it would cost £1000, already spinning her web of deciet about the cost by lying about the grant level so i donned my paxman hat and set about quizzing her further

and then she said that regulations meant that we needed 11 inches of insulation to meet government guidelines, that we wouldn't be able to use the loft afterwards as the insulation would be 7 inches above the joists, etc

so how do you get the 7 extra inches then?

you don't, they lay down a line of 6 inch, then cross it over with another layer of 6 inch

at which point i politely pointed her towards the stairs and out of the door, even my mrs was thinking to herself "what a dumb bitch, didn't know wtf she was talking about , even i understood she was chatting shit"

so, who else has got 11 inches worth of insulations in their loft, on the floor, and now can;'t use their lofts?

oh yes, she said she'd started late in the day (4) and had done loads of houses on our street already, but when i said "which ones?" she only gave out 2 numbers from across the road, one of the houses i know the guy very well and he's not the sort to give her more than 2 seconds, and because she'd started late she was going to have to come back tomorrow and monday, so when i said i'd chat to her tomorrow after i'd checked her credentials out she said she wasn't coming back to give out quotes but refernce numbers, but she won't have time, and so on and so forth

i did have the cheek to ask for a small sum towards the heat loss while she'd been standing in the door for 10 minutes and she gave me such a dirty look
Old 02-10-2010, 06:40 PM
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Fair enough her figures are off, but the grant is true, my aunts just had her whole loft insulated, and her house cavity wall insulated for £300.
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There's also so much red tape to the grant, they came round ours after telling us on the phone that there was a 11" minimum thing, then left saying they couldn't do anything as we already had 6", frankly she was stunningly good looking with a fit body so I wasn't thinking about loft insulation when chatting inches!!
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I read the title but couldn't be arsed to read what you were on about dojj! I'd LOVE 11"!!!!!
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IVe only got 8 inches but its very hard
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Dojj what company was she from?

Was it Eaga?

http://www.eaga.com/products-and-ser...and-assistance

Take it your wall cavity is already filled?
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Dojj, she's someone with a clip board. She is right and wrong, it does need to be 6" over the joist, but you can get space boards to fit over it for storage. It's a legit grant.
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
Fair enough her figures are off, but the grant is true, my aunts just had her whole loft insulated, and her house cavity wall insulated for £300.
but she didn't even go up into the loft, so how was she going to prise up the boards to see how much insulation we already may or may not have had?

and fuck lagging the loft and not being able to use it, i'd rather spend a fiver a month heating the coont
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Originally Posted by caprizetec170
IVe only got 8 inches but its very hard

lmfao
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
Dojj what company was she from?

Was it Eaga?

http://www.eaga.com/products-and-ser...and-assistance

Take it your wall cavity is already filled?
she was from some double barreled company, can't remember who it was now

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Dojj, she's someone with a clip board. She is right and wrong, it does need to be 6" over the joist, but you can get space boards to fit over it for storage. It's a legit grant.
but that's what i didn't get, why insulate 11 inches, or 6 inches or whatever, and then not be able to use your loft as most peole normally do?

the roof is new and we could get it full foam sealed with windows and stuff for a few quid and still be able to use it and it would met the current insulation requirements to have a loft conversion done,
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You should get someone coming around that actually is a fitter to measure up and answer questions if you agree to it. This is the problem with these companies, they send people out that dont have a clue or worse still little knowledge and just spout shit. Should have taken note of the company and called them to check it up.
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Dojj, the insulation won't be 6 inches then cross layed again with 6 more.

It will be 4 inches of your existiong insulation then 7 inches's (170mm) over your boards.

Thats if the grant company will lay over the boards. As some grant companies won't lay over the boards (get intouch with the grant company to confirm this)

If your claiming any sort of benefit be it working tax credits, child tax credits you can get it done for nothing.
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Originally Posted by caprizetec170
IVe only got 8 inches but its very hard

I've only got 12", but I don't use it as a rule.......
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Originally Posted by Mal.
I've only got 12", but I don't use it as a rule.......
but i do think kingspan make it 4 inches of it same as your 12 i just doubled it up cause i like to boast
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You know why womwn are such cautiuos parkers? Because they've been made to bellieve 4 inches is a foot!
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Originally Posted by dojj
she was from some double barreled company, can't remember who it was now
'Miller Patison' by any chance?

I work for Long Island Insulation and we work along with different schemes and the businesses that pop up because of them. When you talk to people about it there is a definate feeling that they could have been given more info. Many don't have a clue how we do it, what's involved, some even ask us how much cash they need to give us It is clear that the people they send out door to door are doing a crap job and this gives a bad impression of all involved, so please don't judge the whole picture just off of one acquaintance.
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We had our loft done recently and didnt have to pay fook all.

Look up warmfront grant.
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Originally Posted by Dan_RS500
'Miller Patison' by any chance?

I work for Long Island Insulation and we work along with different schemes and the businesses that pop up because of them. When you talk to people about it there is a definate feeling that they could have been given more info. Many don't have a clue how we do it, what's involved, some even ask us how much cash they need to give us It is clear that the people they send out door to door are doing a crap job and this gives a bad impression of all involved, so please don't judge the whole picture just off of one acquaintance.
yup, that's the one

how do i get her round again then?
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Originally Posted by dojj
yup, that's the one

how do i get her round again then?
Ring the company with your reference number.
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The Grant is true. My brother just had his loft done for no money at all
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Poor Dojj, he feels a tad silly now
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
Ring the company with your reference number.
ain't got a reference number as I didn't get the quote done
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You said some thing about her coming back tomorrow and monday to give out reference numbers though.
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she said she was going to come back today and monday as she started later than she should have, but then she said she was only going to come back to give reference numbers and not to do quotes

overall, if that's the spec of the staff, i'm not sure if i should get the work done or not
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