marky_g

just been given a transit connect thats had its engine replaced was a mechanical failure bottom end so i assume juved replace only the engine not the wiring but apparently it wont start the fuse box is hanging out and its not totaly back together

anyone got any ideas or tips or things that should be done when changing the engine?

Icurus

Petrol or diesel?

Glenn_

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Check the wire from the battery to the starter. There is a shit connection in the wire that breaks. Its a live wire by the way. They break on the royal mail vans all the time. Just cut the connector out and rejoin the wire.

Karl 3dr

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If its just a straight engine change then you dont have to do anything, i.e programming wise, just swap the engine and away you go.

I presume it cranks?

Does the pats light flash really fast when its cranking?

marky_g

thats what i thought it would be straight forward unfortunaly i cant ask the place that did the swap as there no longer in business, i dont no anything just yet as i have not seen the van since the swap but ive been told the fuse box it out half the dash is out and parts are in the back!!!

i'll be gettin in saturday afternoon and putting it back together, just wondering what problems they might have had to make them need to strip the fusebox and look at wiring

its a swb low roof L200

Icurus

Again, petrol or diesel?

First port of call would be to get it all back together electrically

Karl 3dr

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Not really sure tbh, like i say, it should just be a straightforward engine swap, i think i'd be tempted to put it all back as it should be and work from there,

Cheers, Karl

marky_g

diesel mate lol i;ll start my building it back up

dojj

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maybe they chaned the ecu and it needs a key to go with it?

marky_g

its possible but why would the do that is it possible to get a key coded to that ecu if its been changed?

Icurus

The diesel pumps need to be coded to the ignition/ecu, so if they did not use the old pump then that might be a problem?

Karl 3dr

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Karl 3dr

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Connect pumps don't need to be coded, the pats is in the instrument cluster iirc, yes you can code your existing keys to a different ecu, don't know why they would have changed it though, unless they changed the wiring loom/ecu at the same time as the engine?

Icurus

According to TIS;

5. Configure the fuel injection pump to the powertrain control module (PCM). For additional information, refer to WDS.
6. Using the special tool, prime the fuel injection pump until clean fuel is seen entering the vacuum pump reservoir.

dojj

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the fusebox is behind the glovebox right?

marky_g

like i say i havent seen the van since its had work done im goin to look at it saturday maybe do some work while im over there then get it trailered back to my place to get it all sorted

but the fuel pump things the kind info i needed as id never even think of that lol

Icurus

There are 2 fuseboxes Dojj, and one of them is indeed behind the glove box, the other is near the battery

dojj

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So which one have thy pulled out then? If it's in theengine bay you can say it's for space reasons, but under the dash? WTF they playing at.

kent discos

connects have problems like this, another one is the crank sensor which is hidden at the bottom and at the back of the engine, apparently if this isn't plugged in or is faulty, then the connect engine won't turn over.

true aswell:
1) Cable between battery, alternator and starter are prone to wear and tear and will break, resulting in a non starter/battery light coming on and off on dash.
2)afaik the diesel pump does need coding to the ecu for it to work properly
3)also afaik the pumps are self priming? - depends on the year?
4)2 fuseboxes - one under bonnet by battery for all externals and relays, one fusebox inside which does all the little fuses, lights, radio, etc. (the usual stuff)

is it the TDCi engine or TDDi and what size engine is it? 75, 90 or 110?

marky_g

right some pictures of the monstrosity of wiring!







i have the ecu but dunno what else im missing cant believe some of the bodges there what were these fuckers [playing at

dojj

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was about to say "it won't start if it ain't got an ecu"

why are they running cables from the relays?

kent discos

this is the same post as on the ford transit forum, yes?

gup

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to me that looks like they have tried to by pass the the pats system
i think it stops you cranking the engine

marky_g

yer mate joined a while ago, thought id get more help there

fuck knows what they've done the IC is off aswell for some reason im gonna take all the wires off that they have put in refit the ECU and get it on diag machine or to a proper firm im sure they'd have just changed the engine turbo and inlet but cant be sure

kent discos

you sure its not nicked?

marky_g

no mate its had a engine replace and by the looks of it the couldn't get it to run, not nicked been i own it lol no record of it being stolen

kent discos

just checking

what engine did they replace it with?

Icurus

It does sound as if they did not get the required parts coded to the van's ecu?

Does it crank over?

As you say, best to put it all back together and go from there

marky_g

not sure id think what ever came out all i no its 1800 im sure it was tdci

Icurus

From the very few TDCi's that I have seen, the injectors are all connected to a common distribution object, which then connects to the pump.

The Tddi's, which I have, the injectors all run back to the pump.

kent discos

yeah, could be the 75, 90 or 110
only reason i ask is that on the 110 the turbo wastegate is electronically controlled, the common rail is like a big spider in front of the engine rocker that goes off to each injector and other end to the fuel pump.
do you just want to keep it a standard van, because you could turn it into an RS connect

marky_g

right its a 75 tdi so not tdci

ha ha no mate i want it to be a diesel id love to di it but thats be a S2 RST, xr3i turbo, xr2 turbo and a connect with frs lol sod that

marky_g

thats exactly what i was thinking

kent discos

ahh thought was there anyway....
i have the 75 Tddi to, so if you need any pics of anything or anytime let me know.

marky_g

defo mate i'll be in touch through transit site nice one