Your first 5 acts as prime minister?
22-09-2010, 01:16 PM
#82
4, public transport should be free or free to british working citizens!
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i may not be spot on with the above, but this country needs to put its foot down!
22-09-2010, 01:19 PM
#83
I'm not one to get involved in any kind of politricks and I see some of the usual suspects are voicing their opinions on this thread
I won't run off a list but I would certainly sort out the earnings of the working class and make it fair and get a decent wage to the masses
remember the people that run this cuntry and wanks that run the banks get paid monkies while the rest of us get paid peanuts
Luciano
I won't run off a list but I would certainly sort out the earnings of the working class and make it fair and get a decent wage to the masses
remember the people that run this cuntry and wanks that run the banks get paid monkies while the rest of us get paid peanuts
Luciano
Communism has been tried and failed in may countries.
22-09-2010, 01:33 PM
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not read the whole thread but i agree with chip except for the rule number 1 as 1 month is not a long time to find a job this day in age i been looking for two weeks and can't even find anything to apply for and i will do most things i would raise it to 3 months as i think this is more fair.
22-09-2010, 01:39 PM
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not read the whole thread but i agree with chip except for the rule number 1 as 1 month is not a long time to find a job this day in age i been looking for two weeks and can't even find anything to apply for and i will do most things i would raise it to 3 months as i think this is more fair.
22-09-2010, 01:41 PM
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I've thought of another one!
I'd ban those stupid charity people who try and talk to you in the street. I'm all for charity, and they can advertise on TV/radio or where ever, that's fine, but these people should all be banned. They constantly bug you and it seems you can't walk through town these days without some pillock in a bright t-shirt asking you something. I thought begging was illegal, yet these people are still allowed as they're not directly asking for money there and then.
I think buskers and even people with dogs and the like are ok. I'd sooner buy someone like that a brew than have one of these fucktards trying to talk to me while I'm having lunch or trying to get to the bank or something!
I'd ban those stupid charity people who try and talk to you in the street. I'm all for charity, and they can advertise on TV/radio or where ever, that's fine, but these people should all be banned. They constantly bug you and it seems you can't walk through town these days without some pillock in a bright t-shirt asking you something. I thought begging was illegal, yet these people are still allowed as they're not directly asking for money there and then.
I think buskers and even people with dogs and the like are ok. I'd sooner buy someone like that a brew than have one of these fucktards trying to talk to me while I'm having lunch or trying to get to the bank or something!
22-09-2010, 01:44 PM
#88
not read the whole thread but i agree with chip except for the rule number 1 as 1 month is not a long time to find a job this day in age i been looking for two weeks and can't even find anything to apply for and i will do most things i would raise it to 3 months as i think this is more fair.
youll still be looking for profitable work while working for the state. Genuine jobseekers wont mind working for thier money. the skanks will have to work or starve.
22-09-2010, 01:45 PM
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please show me one round here there are loads off jobs out there but nothing i am able to do fucking hell you even need to be experienced to be a labourer ffs i have 15 years as a mechanic but i not a mot tester which seems to be what every one wants
22-09-2010, 01:51 PM
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so your telling me that there is not 1 job in your area you can do? I find that impossible to believe, so the 'immigrant's' that come over here not speaking much english are more employable then you? Or can you not find a job you fancy?
22-09-2010, 01:54 PM
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22-09-2010, 01:55 PM
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22-09-2010, 01:56 PM
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My company gets paid over £50m a year for dealing with this group of individuals so I feel somewhat qualified to comment
We get paid for sourcing these people a job so I know a little about the market thanks, the jobs are hard to come by. Unless you want to incentivise (force) employers to take them on, probably against their will and probably at a cost then its hard to get some of them into work when the employer would rather use illiegal cash in hand immigrant workers.
As for them doing nothing and getting paid, read what i wrote. I personally can stop their payments if they dont attend what they are supposed to attend in terms of training or job placements or actively searching for a job. All of the activities are documented and audited.
Nobody out of the 95000 clients we've had through the doors since i've been involved has 'done 'hardly anything' towards getting into work
We deal with all types of unemployed from school leavers to long term unemployed over 50 to people made redundant etc
I'd love to know who these 'Millions of people' do nothing towards getting a job who also claim JSA
Other benefits, you are almost certainly correct, Job Seekers, absolutely not
We get paid for sourcing these people a job so I know a little about the market thanks, the jobs are hard to come by. Unless you want to incentivise (force) employers to take them on, probably against their will and probably at a cost then its hard to get some of them into work when the employer would rather use illiegal cash in hand immigrant workers.
As for them doing nothing and getting paid, read what i wrote. I personally can stop their payments if they dont attend what they are supposed to attend in terms of training or job placements or actively searching for a job. All of the activities are documented and audited.
Nobody out of the 95000 clients we've had through the doors since i've been involved has 'done 'hardly anything' towards getting into work
We deal with all types of unemployed from school leavers to long term unemployed over 50 to people made redundant etc
I'd love to know who these 'Millions of people' do nothing towards getting a job who also claim JSA
Other benefits, you are almost certainly correct, Job Seekers, absolutely not
i only went for a couple of weeks and got hooked up,i know what you mean though everyone else there were complete no hopers and just being in that company was enough motivation for me to sort my shit out
i found it hard being unemployed,its the only time ive ever been without a job and they helped me out loads but the others there had no interest what so ever,they were just there because their benefits would be stopped otherwise
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22-09-2010, 01:59 PM
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like i said i will do anything but can't even find something to apply for as i not qualified i hate bein out off work and am claiming nothing like i said feel free to show me a job round here. not to mention the amount off people applying for one job the last garage i worked at advertised for a receptionist and had 79 replys!
22-09-2010, 02:01 PM
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Agreed! There is no incentive to work hard, nor to better yourself if you know that the Government (i.e. hard workers) will subsidise your salary. Plus there's no incentive to do hard/difficult/demanding/dangerous work if you know you can get a similar salary for doing a dossy job.
22-09-2010, 02:01 PM
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like i said i will do anything but can't even find something to apply for as i not qualified i hate bein out off work and am claiming nothing like i said feel free to show me a job round here. not to mention the amount off people applying for one job the last garage i worked at advertised for a receptionist and had 79 replys!
22-09-2010, 02:02 PM
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yeah and then how many people are going to be employed to make sure it all works and cost how much more to the tax payer?
i belive there are over 3 millon plus on benefits in the uk so that alot off people extra to employ to look after them
i for one am all for it but just does not seem sensible option?
22-09-2010, 02:04 PM
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22-09-2010, 02:04 PM
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like i said i will do anything but can't even find something to apply for as i not qualified i hate bein out off work and am claiming nothing like i said feel free to show me a job round here. not to mention the amount off people applying for one job the last garage i worked at advertised for a receptionist and had 79 replys!
22-09-2010, 02:15 PM
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Street wardens is one example, labour to help build a better transport system is another, grafiti removal on bridges, gardening for pensioners, meals on wheels, the list of useful things people could be doing instead of sitting on their arse all day is endless.
There is already a lot of expense in the current system (like the 50 million quid mondeo man menitoned) and although the costs of my system on a per person basis will potentially be higher, there will hopefully be less benefit scroungers in the first place, and less immigrants thinking they can get a living for nothing.
As far as supervisors and admin staff etc go, those can all be people on benefit doing that too providing they are qualified and experienced enough to do so, not everyone on the dole is useless and lots of people would be better off honing their office skills than doing fuck all like they do currenly!
and surely someone will have to run it and supervise them meaning even more expense?
As far as supervisors and admin staff etc go, those can all be people on benefit doing that too providing they are qualified and experienced enough to do so, not everyone on the dole is useless and lots of people would be better off honing their office skills than doing fuck all like they do currenly!
22-09-2010, 02:17 PM
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like i said i will do anything but can't even find something to apply for as i not qualified i hate bein out off work and am claiming nothing like i said feel free to show me a job round here. not to mention the amount off people applying for one job the last garage i worked at advertised for a receptionist and had 79 replys!
22-09-2010, 02:19 PM
#104
yeah and then how many people are going to be employed to make sure it all works and cost how much more to the tax payer?
i belive there are over 3 millon plus on benefits in the uk so that alot off people extra to employ to look after them
i for one am all for it but just does not seem sensible option?
i belive there are over 3 millon plus on benefits in the uk so that alot off people extra to employ to look after them
i for one am all for it but just does not seem sensible option?
We need to take some short term pain in exchange for long term gain for the good of the country.
22-09-2010, 02:35 PM
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1. Free English lessons for everyone with a particular emphasis on spelling, punctuation and grammar, paid for by...
2. ..a 40% Tax on stupid people's wages. As you can see, it's self funding and eventually will mean I won't have to come on internet forums and spend half the time trying to decipher my native language that some fuckwit has bastardised. This will be especially important when I'm priminister as I will have even less time.
3. 60% Tax on accents that sound like they could either be northern or Brummie. The sooner you people realise that you sound stupid, the better your lives will be. If you don't believe me, picture an American redneck. Now in your head make them speak. Does it sound like Cletus from The Simpsons? That's how the rest of the world views you.
4. With our new, well spoken work force up North, let's re-open the boat yards and start actually producing something tangible in this country. We may not be competitive Globally and there's a lot of problems associated with trying to get us that way but this is a wish list and I can choose what I want to go on it.
5. Either rebuild Hadrian's wall OR set off a load of charges and try and float Scotland away so that the whining, ginger deep fryers are someone else's problem. They are welcome to independance and we don't want your oil, we'll have plenty because I'm starting more wars in the Middle East because quite frankly, they're all terrorists and smell funny.
2. ..a 40% Tax on stupid people's wages. As you can see, it's self funding and eventually will mean I won't have to come on internet forums and spend half the time trying to decipher my native language that some fuckwit has bastardised. This will be especially important when I'm priminister as I will have even less time.
3. 60% Tax on accents that sound like they could either be northern or Brummie. The sooner you people realise that you sound stupid, the better your lives will be. If you don't believe me, picture an American redneck. Now in your head make them speak. Does it sound like Cletus from The Simpsons? That's how the rest of the world views you.
4. With our new, well spoken work force up North, let's re-open the boat yards and start actually producing something tangible in this country. We may not be competitive Globally and there's a lot of problems associated with trying to get us that way but this is a wish list and I can choose what I want to go on it.
5. Either rebuild Hadrian's wall OR set off a load of charges and try and float Scotland away so that the whining, ginger deep fryers are someone else's problem. They are welcome to independance and we don't want your oil, we'll have plenty because I'm starting more wars in the Middle East because quite frankly, they're all terrorists and smell funny.
22-09-2010, 03:53 PM
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1. Stop handing out houses to people who have popped children out. Build hostels with shared facilities and only individual bedrooms. If the youngsters stop seeing having a babey as a means to a free home they may think a bit more about what they are doing.
2. Force people who claim benefits (job seekers/unemployment) to work one day a week in the community. Failure to comply would result in benefit payments being revoked.
3. Strip the NHS to a skeletal service and make private health care mandatory. Children covered under parents until they start working.
4. No longer recognise foreign languages in town's cities and schools. This is Great Britain, use the Queens English or you will not be recognised (obv excluding Welsh in Wales)
5. Stop the police forces being so figure chasing and let them get on with doing there job and put more enpahsis on the crimes people worry about than some nimby bitching aout a car that might be going 5mph over the limit
2. Force people who claim benefits (job seekers/unemployment) to work one day a week in the community. Failure to comply would result in benefit payments being revoked.
3. Strip the NHS to a skeletal service and make private health care mandatory. Children covered under parents until they start working.
4. No longer recognise foreign languages in town's cities and schools. This is Great Britain, use the Queens English or you will not be recognised (obv excluding Welsh in Wales)
5. Stop the police forces being so figure chasing and let them get on with doing there job and put more enpahsis on the crimes people worry about than some nimby bitching aout a car that might be going 5mph over the limit
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22-09-2010, 04:27 PM
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I've thought of another one!
I'd ban those stupid charity people who try and talk to you in the street. I'm all for charity, and they can advertise on TV/radio or where ever, that's fine, but these people should all be banned. They constantly bug you and it seems you can't walk through town these days without some pillock in a bright t-shirt asking you something. I thought begging was illegal, yet these people are still allowed as they're not directly asking for money there and then.
I think buskers and even people with dogs and the like are ok. I'd sooner buy someone like that a brew than have one of these fucktards trying to talk to me while I'm having lunch or trying to get to the bank or something!
I'd ban those stupid charity people who try and talk to you in the street. I'm all for charity, and they can advertise on TV/radio or where ever, that's fine, but these people should all be banned. They constantly bug you and it seems you can't walk through town these days without some pillock in a bright t-shirt asking you something. I thought begging was illegal, yet these people are still allowed as they're not directly asking for money there and then.
I think buskers and even people with dogs and the like are ok. I'd sooner buy someone like that a brew than have one of these fucktards trying to talk to me while I'm having lunch or trying to get to the bank or something!
22-09-2010, 04:37 PM
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2. Force people who claim benefits (job seekers/unemployment) to work one day a week in the community. Failure to comply would result in benefit payemts being revoked.
3. Strip the NHS to a skeletal service and make private health care mandatory. Children covered under parents until they start working.
4. No longer recognise foreign languages in town's cities and schools. This is Great Britain, use the Queens English or you will not be recognised (obv excluding Welsh in Wales)
I think that teaching french or german etc is fine.
5. Stop the police forces being so figure chasing and let them get on with doing there job and put more enpahsis on the crimes people worry about than some nimby bitching aout a car that might be going 5mph over the limit
22-09-2010, 04:45 PM
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1) leave EU and become Independant
2) create seperate parliaments for England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland hat, every now and then, they meet in a British parliament over seen by the monarch
3) make the speed limit on the motorway 100, wheras at 2-5am during summer, no speed limits. This will be safe because...
4) ...Make people take a seperate test for the motorway and be given an M plate for your car as proof.
5) Ban government funding of religion
2) create seperate parliaments for England, Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland hat, every now and then, they meet in a British parliament over seen by the monarch
3) make the speed limit on the motorway 100, wheras at 2-5am during summer, no speed limits. This will be safe because...
4) ...Make people take a seperate test for the motorway and be given an M plate for your car as proof.
5) Ban government funding of religion
22-09-2010, 05:01 PM
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1) Detatch the economy from the government. No central bank or central planning of any kind. Total freedom of trade and prioritised individual liberty above all else. The housing bubble and phony consumer economy will therefore collapse.
2) No benefits and no redistribution of wealth. The only thing the government provides is justice and emergency services.
3) Legalise all drugs. Let them be sold to adults in the way that alcohol is.
4) Eliminate democracy. Lol
2) No benefits and no redistribution of wealth. The only thing the government provides is justice and emergency services.
3) Legalise all drugs. Let them be sold to adults in the way that alcohol is.
4) Eliminate democracy. Lol
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22-09-2010, 05:09 PM
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1. A complete revamp of the justice system. More police (more jobs) free from government targets. Scrap the death by dangerous driving rule, if you cause someone else's death on the road, it's manslaughter. Rebuild all the country's prisons to a victorian standard (saves money). It's supposed to be a punishment, not a drug ridden, day release, holiday camp.
2. Introduce compulsary 5 year driving tests complete with medicals. Should get the driving biffs off the road (reduce road fatalaties). I also like DarylC's motorway driving test scheme so i'll borrow (steal) that.
3. Scrap the majority of the ministry of defence and allow the armed forces to buy equipment that isn't made by BAE. It will cost significantly less, allowing us to reduce the defence budget and mean that the armed forces has the correct kit it needs, saving lives.
4. Start testing GCSEs at the old O-level standard, rewarding actual academic merit. Also ensure all children learn a foreign language at GCSE. Almost all other countries speak english so it wouldn't hurt our children to be able to speak spanish/french/german etc.
5. Politicians work for a flat rate of £25,000pa with no allowances to ensure that we have people in government who want to make a difference to the country rather than for their own financial gain.
2. Introduce compulsary 5 year driving tests complete with medicals. Should get the driving biffs off the road (reduce road fatalaties). I also like DarylC's motorway driving test scheme so i'll borrow (steal) that.
3. Scrap the majority of the ministry of defence and allow the armed forces to buy equipment that isn't made by BAE. It will cost significantly less, allowing us to reduce the defence budget and mean that the armed forces has the correct kit it needs, saving lives.
4. Start testing GCSEs at the old O-level standard, rewarding actual academic merit. Also ensure all children learn a foreign language at GCSE. Almost all other countries speak english so it wouldn't hurt our children to be able to speak spanish/french/german etc.
5. Politicians work for a flat rate of £25,000pa with no allowances to ensure that we have people in government who want to make a difference to the country rather than for their own financial gain.
22-09-2010, 05:43 PM
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CHIP FOR PM! 
You've written down most of my daily thoughts perfectly, and in a much better way then i'd be able
Ok then, my first 5 as PM
1) ALL illegal immigrants out. Bus, train or plane, just out. It really makes my blood boil why they make huge journeys across the whole continent of europe and not stop in any country there, they come to Britain because they know they'll be taken in. Genuine cases as some may be, they need proper channels and a system to go through.
2) More public service workers. Offer a proper incentive scheme for school leavers and get them into policing, nursing and firefighting. less red tape and less health and safety forms for grazed knees and stubbed toes to enable them to do their (dangerous ) jobs properly.
3) VAT up to get some money in.
4) proper prison terms for any offender, and when your convicted you surrender all human rights at the prison gates. no cigarettes, sweets, playstations etc its meant to be a horrible place to be. life means life and chain gang style unpaid work for asbo offenders.
5) Automatic national service after 6 months of leaving school if the person isn't in further education, training or already working. i.e, for those sittng at home on their arses. it would be expensive to set up but it would hopefully lift the "cant be arsed" attitude of so many of the yoof!
wow that was fun! i'm on a power trip lol
Great thread BTW.
You've written down most of my daily thoughts perfectly, and in a much better way then i'd be able
Ok then, my first 5 as PM
1) ALL illegal immigrants out. Bus, train or plane, just out. It really makes my blood boil why they make huge journeys across the whole continent of europe and not stop in any country there, they come to Britain because they know they'll be taken in. Genuine cases as some may be, they need proper channels and a system to go through.
2) More public service workers. Offer a proper incentive scheme for school leavers and get them into policing, nursing and firefighting. less red tape and less health and safety forms for grazed knees and stubbed toes to enable them to do their (dangerous ) jobs properly.
3) VAT up to get some money in.
4) proper prison terms for any offender, and when your convicted you surrender all human rights at the prison gates. no cigarettes, sweets, playstations etc its meant to be a horrible place to be. life means life and chain gang style unpaid work for asbo offenders.
5) Automatic national service after 6 months of leaving school if the person isn't in further education, training or already working. i.e, for those sittng at home on their arses. it would be expensive to set up but it would hopefully lift the "cant be arsed" attitude of so many of the yoof!
wow that was fun!
i'm on a power trip lolGreat thread BTW.
22-09-2010, 06:21 PM
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That money also supports a thriving business that employs a over 500 people and supports numerous suppliers we trade with, as well as getting over 3000 people a year actual paying jobs and another 5000 into placements with potential job oucomes or apprenticeships with employers
As well as us making over 2million pounds a year in charitable donations and running our own charity programmes
I do totally agree with Chips overall aim, but once you get into the nitty gritty its very hard to drill down and actually do it.
I was just picking up on the comment about JSA as I happen to know a little about it
Overall the benefits system is fucked.
One of my main ideas as a PM would be to impose a 50% tax on people sending money abroad, ie all the immigrants that come over, earn money legally but send it all 'home' to their family
22-09-2010, 06:30 PM
#119
The prison issue, serve the time you have been sentanced to by the jury, not the judges who are told how long they van bang you up for. Once you get that fixed term, if you behave, you are let out on time, if you fuck about, you get sent to solitary and your time is suspended until you come out of solitary, when the clock starts ticking again.
So if you get sent down for 12 months you do 12 months inside and if you fuck about and get sent to solitary for a month after the first month, your countdown timer to release stops at 11 months left until you have served your extra punishment for breaking prison rules and then it starts up again.
Keeps prisoners in check and, if policed properly, will keep the proper troublemakers inside for longer.
If you couple this to chain gang style work groups you will get the benifit of getting jobs done that we would otherwise have to pay the council to do, like cleaning the streets or digging ditches or moving grass verges etc.
As for the mp's, being an mp should be your only job, not be on a board of governers for the local coalmine or strip club on the side. If you are only doing one job then you won't be confused about the job you are doing
So if you get sent down for 12 months you do 12 months inside and if you fuck about and get sent to solitary for a month after the first month, your countdown timer to release stops at 11 months left until you have served your extra punishment for breaking prison rules and then it starts up again.
Keeps prisoners in check and, if policed properly, will keep the proper troublemakers inside for longer.
If you couple this to chain gang style work groups you will get the benifit of getting jobs done that we would otherwise have to pay the council to do, like cleaning the streets or digging ditches or moving grass verges etc.
As for the mp's, being an mp should be your only job, not be on a board of governers for the local coalmine or strip club on the side. If you are only doing one job then you won't be confused about the job you are doing
22-09-2010, 06:44 PM
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I would use all road tax and fuel duty solely (for x amount of years) to help improve the public transport infrastructure with the aim of reducing the reliance on using the roads for delivery of goods.