Your first 5 acts as prime minister?
22-09-2010, 11:20 AM
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Increase tax on corporations and the wealthy while increasing benefits for lower paid workers
Dan, another number 2 sticker please for me to put on this one
22-09-2010, 11:33 AM
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1)Un employment benifits would have to be earned by community work placements.
2)Provide herion on licence to junkies. Licenses provided by GPs.
3)Invest government money in capital projects that will reduce the country's spend and relience on foreign fuel / power eg. tidal powerstaions in our large estuaries, off shore wind farms.
4) Reform prisons to become work camps
5) Scrap road tax and add deficit to fuel duty. Totally stamp on these silly road pricing ideas that keep floating about.
2)Provide herion on licence to junkies. Licenses provided by GPs.
3)Invest government money in capital projects that will reduce the country's spend and relience on foreign fuel / power eg. tidal powerstaions in our large estuaries, off shore wind farms.
4) Reform prisons to become work camps
5) Scrap road tax and add deficit to fuel duty. Totally stamp on these silly road pricing ideas that keep floating about.
22-09-2010, 11:34 AM
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1 - get chip as my advisor, on everything, your a harsh bastard but it is now the only thing that will sort this mess out! Sadly i doubt we will ever see it.
What sum's this country up is that you get something for nothing.
Canada and Oz dont just let anyone in, you have to provide some use to that country, why the hell don't we have that!?
Totally agree with the job seeker's thing, doing some sort of job is better for the country as a whole rather than continueing to get paid to look or not look in many cases. It is easier to find a job from a job!
And now i am at the point where i think religon should be banned! It has gotten completely out of control.
What sum's this country up is that you get something for nothing.
Canada and Oz dont just let anyone in, you have to provide some use to that country, why the hell don't we have that!?
Totally agree with the job seeker's thing, doing some sort of job is better for the country as a whole rather than continueing to get paid to look or not look in many cases. It is easier to find a job from a job!
And now i am at the point where i think religon should be banned! It has gotten completely out of control.
22-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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And now i am at the point where i think religon should be banned! It has gotten completely out of control.
22-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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America has low tax on the rich, high inequality and a big prison population and as a result has high levels of violence, drug addiction, crime and dissatisfaction among its citizens. Like the UK.
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22-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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Good thread!
1) Throw a big team building event for the whole of the UK to stop people moaning about the Scots, English, Irish & Welsh
2) Do away with Human rights and replace it with common sense
3) Tell the EU what to do, not be told
4) Force people to work (able bodied) for benefits and drug test if necessary
5) Do something with "Reform" in the name so it sounds good, that's what they all do
1) Throw a big team building event for the whole of the UK to stop people moaning about the Scots, English, Irish & Welsh
2) Do away with Human rights and replace it with common sense
3) Tell the EU what to do, not be told
4) Force people to work (able bodied) for benefits and drug test if necessary
5) Do something with "Reform" in the name so it sounds good, that's what they all do
22-09-2010, 11:39 AM
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Also, scrap road tax altogether as it serves no purpose. Road users should be taxed based on mileage, so just have road tax as part of the fuel duty system, so the more fuel you burn, the more you pay. And the proceed go on maintaining and improving the road network, as well as making public transport better, which may encourage people to use it more.
Thats not fair BUT they should tax people like me for having nice gaz guzzling poncy sports cars! That I do agree on! I don't mind paying Tax.
I just want it spent PROPERLY!!!
NOT SUPPORTING JOBLESS CHAV SCUM AND THEIR KIDS!!!! arghhhh!!!!
or worse... putting jobless immigrants in mansions!!!!
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22-09-2010, 11:41 AM
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de stabalise the economy by printing 100 million fake notes
ride maggie thatcher up the @rse whilst poking her nose as john major ,tony blair and alistair darling all watch
legalise all drugs ,set up cafe's etc
free fuel and tax for all ford owners
legalise 24 hr dance events
ride maggie thatcher up the @rse whilst poking her nose as john major ,tony blair and alistair darling all watch
legalise all drugs ,set up cafe's etc
free fuel and tax for all ford owners
legalise 24 hr dance events
22-09-2010, 11:42 AM
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2)Provide herion on licence to junkies. Licenses provided by GPs.
3)Invest government money in capital projects that will reduce the country's spend and relience on foreign fuel / power eg. tidal powerstaions in our large estuaries, off shore wind farms.
4) Reform prisons to become work camps
5) Scrap road tax and add deficit to fuel duty. Totally stamp on these silly road pricing ideas that keep floating about.
Road pricing is a good idea if implemented correctly, after all if you live in a remote area and have to travel for half an hour on unused roads to do your 20 mile commute, why should you be paying far more to do so in fuel duty than someone in a city driving for half an hour at 2mph in traffic to get to work and making the problem worse?
22-09-2010, 11:46 AM
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2) Do away with Human rights and replace it with common sense
The first common sense thing is that if you mug old ladies or you are a child rapist or you are a bent copper or you are a mass murderer, then by definition you arent human you are subhuman and therefore you dont have any human rights by definiton.
3) Tell the EU what to do, not be told
4) Force people to work (able bodied) for benefits and drug test if necessary
5) Do something with "Reform" in the name so it sounds good, that's what they all do
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22-09-2010, 11:51 AM
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Nah, just provide secure clinics (much like a prison) for them to go gold turkey in, on your 3rd visit to the clinic after you have been cured and released and chosen to become uncured twice before, you just get executed as if you dont value your life even with help, then neither does the country.
As per my earlier comment, it would lead to more unusued or hardly used cars being stored on the road.
Road pricing is a good idea if implemented correctly, after all if you live in a remote area and have to travel for half an hour on unused roads to do your 20 mile commute, why should you be paying far more to do so in fuel duty than someone in a city driving for half an hour at 2mph in traffic to get to work and making the problem worse?
The problem with road pricing is that they are only taliking about putting it on m/a roads. Stupid idea. We are all tight so would much rather drive miles on small country roads through peoples quite villages that are not designed for heavy traffic than pay.
If you were to price all roads every vehicle would need a tracker. Who would pay for that?
Only people that would win are the suppliers of the kit/systems. can you imagine the cock up of a computer sytem the goverment would comission to run this. If you want to tax people on how much they use the road simply add it to fuel duty. Keep it simple and cheap/easy to implement.
22-09-2010, 11:55 AM
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Thats the good thing about having an army of free labour.
Only people that would win are the suppliers of the kit/systems. can you imagine the cock up of a computer sytem the goverment would comission to run this. If you want to tax people on how much they use the road simply add it to fuel duty. Keep it simple and cheap/easy to implement.
22-09-2010, 11:58 AM
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Please Chip save me from worshipping Rocks lol
As already stated Chip your a harsh Cunt with your ethics but I have to agree with them this country is in tourmoil and it needs sorting !
CHIP FOR PM !
Regards Doug.
22-09-2010, 12:01 PM
#59
1, first thing to do is get caught in some sleezy sex scandal.
2, look for a second property for the tax payers to fund
3, learn how to talk utter bollox
4, get the country more into debt
5, go to another unnecesary war
it seems to work for most politicians.....
2, look for a second property for the tax payers to fund
3, learn how to talk utter bollox
4, get the country more into debt
5, go to another unnecesary war
it seems to work for most politicians.....
22-09-2010, 12:02 PM
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While I agree with your sentiment, it depends on who the health and safety impacts, I think its reasonable for example to expect companies not to put employees in life threatening situations, but yes I agree when its telling people every little detail of how to live their life.
22-09-2010, 12:07 PM
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Im not talking about placements or training, or attending interviews for a job they dont get im talking about they work or they dont get paid.
There are millions of people in this country who go and sign on once a fortnight and do hardly anything towards getting a job and still get paid.
That would all stop, so would housing benefits, and so would NHS treatment, if you dont want to be in the system thats your choice, but there is not going to be anyone just being in the half of it they want.
There are millions of people in this country who go and sign on once a fortnight and do hardly anything towards getting a job and still get paid.
That would all stop, so would housing benefits, and so would NHS treatment, if you dont want to be in the system thats your choice, but there is not going to be anyone just being in the half of it they want.
We get paid for sourcing these people a job so I know a little about the market thanks, the jobs are hard to come by. Unless you want to incentivise (force) employers to take them on, probably against their will and probably at a cost then its hard to get some of them into work when the employer would rather use illiegal cash in hand immigrant workers.
As for them doing nothing and getting paid, read what i wrote. I personally can stop their payments if they dont attend what they are supposed to attend in terms of training or job placements or actively searching for a job. All of the activities are documented and audited.
Nobody out of the 95000 clients we've had through the doors since i've been involved has 'done 'hardly anything' towards getting into work
We deal with all types of unemployed from school leavers to long term unemployed over 50 to people made redundant etc
I'd love to know who these 'Millions of people' do nothing towards getting a job who also claim JSA
Other benefits, you are almost certainly correct, Job Seekers, absolutely not
22-09-2010, 12:10 PM
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I dont care if its called jobseekers or longterm disability or whatever, no one should get ANY benefits unless they are working to the best of their ability to earn them as a wage instead of as a benefit.
Even severely physically handicapped people would have to work in my system, but they would be given a job that they could still perform with their disability.
Just because someone is disabled doesnt mean they arent useful!
If you think the current system is working then why the fuck are there so many council estates full of people not working who can still afford food?
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22-09-2010, 12:10 PM
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I agree with chip and porkie completely. I do wonder how long we have until the total collapse of our society.
Im not convinced the current or likely leadership have the fucking balls to take the necessary steps. Yes they are doing cuts but they arent solving the problem in my opinion just delaying the inevitable. Might buy us another 10-20 years though.
I wonder if the rich and weathly will start buying an influence or just up sticks and leave??
I do like chips ideas though. I think with the tougher criminal justice system there will also be the need for secret state sponsored assassinations of certain crime figures who due to the way they operate are pretty much untouchable legally. That includes both serious organised criminals as well as the CHAV element. Too much crime occurs purely because the criminal knows they are unlikely to be caught due to shite CPS and human rights and a lack of police presence. Chips ideas will sort the CPS and rights side of things but even with a more efficient police force there will still not be police everywhere and a lot of criminals especially with anti-social behaviour KNOW not to act that way around cops if they knew it would cause them real hassle.
Now think, your a CHAV cunt abusing some old lady. Your mate did it last week and got a bullet in the head a couple of days later. Many would think twice. The wannabes and those trying to be cool would grow up and the complete loosers who just cant change would end up eventually getting shot if the justice system hasnt dealt with them first. Problem solved.
Takes at least 6 months to get forced onto new deal or similar programmes. Some can string it out for 18 months. Plus theres nothing stopping you stop claiming and start a new claim shortly thereafter after your 2 weeks in employment went wrong
Thats not forgetting the whole sickness excuses some people use, going on courses etc, going to prison etc etc etc.
I guess a few female soldiers would survive. Remember all get NBC training and quite a lot of females work in non front line roles down the "hole" or in other bunkers around the world.
Still most of them are munters so youd probably prefer to let the species die out.....
but yeah his plan is flawed One for the compulsory sterilisation plan for sure!
fair point!! especially as they will have top quality psychological therapies available to them in the hospital to help them deal with the psychological issues ALL addicts have.
Im not convinced the current or likely leadership have the fucking balls to take the necessary steps. Yes they are doing cuts but they arent solving the problem in my opinion just delaying the inevitable. Might buy us another 10-20 years though.
I wonder if the rich and weathly will start buying an influence or just up sticks and leave??
I do like chips ideas though. I think with the tougher criminal justice system there will also be the need for secret state sponsored assassinations of certain crime figures who due to the way they operate are pretty much untouchable legally. That includes both serious organised criminals as well as the CHAV element. Too much crime occurs purely because the criminal knows they are unlikely to be caught due to shite CPS and human rights and a lack of police presence. Chips ideas will sort the CPS and rights side of things but even with a more efficient police force there will still not be police everywhere and a lot of criminals especially with anti-social behaviour KNOW not to act that way around cops if they knew it would cause them real hassle.
Now think, your a CHAV cunt abusing some old lady. Your mate did it last week and got a bullet in the head a couple of days later. Many would think twice. The wannabes and those trying to be cool would grow up and the complete loosers who just cant change would end up eventually getting shot if the justice system hasnt dealt with them first. Problem solved.
Thats not forgetting the whole sickness excuses some people use, going on courses etc, going to prison etc etc etc.
I guess a few female soldiers would survive. Remember all get NBC training and quite a lot of females work in non front line roles down the "hole" or in other bunkers around the world.
Still most of them are munters so youd probably prefer to let the species die out.....
but yeah his plan is flawed
One for the compulsory sterilisation plan for sure!Nah, just provide secure clinics (much like a prison) for them to go gold turkey in, on your 3rd visit to the clinic after you have been cured and released and chosen to become uncured twice before, you just get executed as if you dont value your life even with help, then neither does the country.
22-09-2010, 12:14 PM
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I'm sure we try to tell the EU what to do, but then so does all the other countries. If we left the EU then there would be massive issues to resolve.
22-09-2010, 12:16 PM
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22-09-2010, 12:23 PM
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Part of sorting this country out is re-alignment of wages to realistic levels and a re-alignment of living standards to a realistic level.
It would also involve restructuring our economy so we are not so dependant on imported goods. Not saying there isnt a place for export and imports as there plainly is! But, the current situation where the consumer demands increasingly cheaper goods and better value prices funded by cheap chinese labour is unsustainable in the long run. We need to create jobs and revitalise the industries we have (it may be unrealistic to think we can get back the industries weve lost to china).
This may sound a bit "hippy" or eco-freak but i think all our imports should be on a "fair trade" type principals. Imagine if all out imported goods were fair trade. Yes they would cost much much more but that would be a realistic sustainable price, but on the flip side UK production of certain goods may well be competitive in the future thus securing more jobs and a more sustainable economy at home. Now where i differ from the hippies is i am not suggesting fair trade because i care much about chinese sweat shop workers. The reality is it doesnt effect me so i care little and if most in UK were honest theyd think the same, plus then theres the hypocrites who cry over poor chinese kids yet on the flip side still want super cheap products
. My reasoning is purely about realistic pricing and helping secure our economy. And china wouldnt be seriously effected if they lost a lot of western business as they still have an internal economy and have considerable assets and wealth compared to so many so called "first world" western countries.
22-09-2010, 12:28 PM
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Warran, agreed, any money spent on imports is money LOST from the countries overall wealth unless it results in an export at a profit later on (like china do, buy in steel, sell knives, equals net gain)
So definately we need to address this issue, but doing so is quite complex if we arent going to annoy the people that we also export to.
So definately we need to address this issue, but doing so is quite complex if we arent going to annoy the people that we also export to.
22-09-2010, 12:35 PM
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Too many posts.. I need a life!!
1/shot all the mp's out there and start agean. 2/leave the eu . 3/stop helping othere countrys given them hand outs and the like charity starts at home.4/lower fuel tax. 5/lower tax on food
22-09-2010, 12:42 PM
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II was out of work from Oct 2009 to May 2010 and in that time i applied for over 150 jobs and went for 15 interviews and basically there are so many people out there that are looking for jobs you end up with hundreds of people all applying for the same job. yes i was on benefits and I TOTALLY hated it made me feel like scum, but at the end of the day i had to do something to keep the roof over my families head.
Totally agree.. yep i smoke (max 10 a day) and i drink (prob average of 10 pints a month over the year) but if i was ill due to either of those ONE i'd def stop straight away and i wouldn't expect any help until i'd provd i could help my self.
But if i'm total honest i really don't think any of the above will happen as all the BIG FAT CAT(British American Tobacco / Shell / BP to name a few) companies that sub governments etc etc (no i'm not going all conspiracy theory here we all know it happens even if everyone denies it) wont allow the government to do it as they will loss to much money.
Betterget back to work now as don't want to get the sack and end up back in the dole Q do i.
Saw this on another forum, if you got elected tomorrow, what would your first 5 acts as prime minister be?
Mine:
1) Stop ALL "job seeking" benefits completely after 1 month of unemployment and introduce a government work scheme where you are given a job, if you do the job you get your benefits, if you don't do it then you don't get paid, you don't get entitlement to housing support and you don't get access to the NHS. If you have kids and allow yourself into that situation then they get taken into care.
With regards to this I do completely agree with you i would have taken any job "even as a traffic warden" if it meant i would be able to provide for my family.
2) Rise VAT to 25% and get this country properly out of debt
HELL YEAH. Get this country out of the SHIT...
3) Pull out of Afghanistan, never get involved in a war about gas or oil again, and cut the defence budget by 75% and use the money to find and prosecute benefit fradusters, we need some defences, but nothing like what we have, we have no natural enemies likely to invade us anyway, so all we need is to meet the minimum requirements to stay part of NATO etc.
Not to sure about this, but I def agree needs a big re-think with regards to what our army & navy gets involved in
4) Spend ALL money collected in road tax revenue and fuel tax on the transport system
AMEN on this one.
5) Anyone who smokes or is obese or drinks excessively etc will not be given NHS treatment for anything relating to those lifestyle choices until they have had 3 months clean (in the case of obesity they would have to hit a weight loss target each month) If its not important enough for you to quit smoking to help solve it then its not important enough to waste taxes on.
Mine:
1) Stop ALL "job seeking" benefits completely after 1 month of unemployment and introduce a government work scheme where you are given a job, if you do the job you get your benefits, if you don't do it then you don't get paid, you don't get entitlement to housing support and you don't get access to the NHS. If you have kids and allow yourself into that situation then they get taken into care.
With regards to this I do completely agree with you i would have taken any job "even as a traffic warden" if it meant i would be able to provide for my family.
2) Rise VAT to 25% and get this country properly out of debt
HELL YEAH. Get this country out of the SHIT...
3) Pull out of Afghanistan, never get involved in a war about gas or oil again, and cut the defence budget by 75% and use the money to find and prosecute benefit fradusters, we need some defences, but nothing like what we have, we have no natural enemies likely to invade us anyway, so all we need is to meet the minimum requirements to stay part of NATO etc.
Not to sure about this, but I def agree needs a big re-think with regards to what our army & navy gets involved in
4) Spend ALL money collected in road tax revenue and fuel tax on the transport system
AMEN on this one.
5) Anyone who smokes or is obese or drinks excessively etc will not be given NHS treatment for anything relating to those lifestyle choices until they have had 3 months clean (in the case of obesity they would have to hit a weight loss target each month) If its not important enough for you to quit smoking to help solve it then its not important enough to waste taxes on.
But if i'm total honest i really don't think any of the above will happen as all the BIG FAT CAT(British American Tobacco / Shell / BP to name a few) companies that sub governments etc etc (no i'm not going all conspiracy theory here we all know it happens even if everyone denies it) wont allow the government to do it as they will loss to much money.
Betterget back to work now as don't want to get the sack and end up back in the dole Q do i.
22-09-2010, 12:47 PM
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1, goverment should do a door to door check on everyone in this whole country if u aint got a british passport.... See ya!
2, Agree with the above u need some sort of license to have kids..
3, agree with chip.. but if u aint got a job or college to go to after school, then ur staying in school til u do.. or the goverment will give u a job! sweeping roads or helping out the community! if u dont like this, this should give you motivation to get a fucking job u like!
4, public transport should be free or free to british working citizens!
5, Tax should stay the same and put it to good use coz lets face it who knows what it gets spent on...
this country is fucked and its gonna get worse coz theres is too many suits at the top spending our money on stupid unneccesory one way systems, immagrants, there own expences, i could go on and on....
i may not be spot on with the above, but this country needs to put its foot down!
2, Agree with the above u need some sort of license to have kids..
3, agree with chip.. but if u aint got a job or college to go to after school, then ur staying in school til u do.. or the goverment will give u a job! sweeping roads or helping out the community! if u dont like this, this should give you motivation to get a fucking job u like!
4, public transport should be free or free to british working citizens!
5, Tax should stay the same and put it to good use coz lets face it who knows what it gets spent on...
this country is fucked and its gonna get worse coz theres is too many suits at the top spending our money on stupid unneccesory one way systems, immagrants, there own expences, i could go on and on....
i may not be spot on with the above, but this country needs to put its foot down!
22-09-2010, 12:49 PM
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I'm not one to get involved in any kind of politricks and I see some of the usual suspects are voicing their opinions on this thread
I won't run off a list but I would certainly sort out the earnings of the working class and make it fair and get a decent wage to the masses
remember the people that run this cuntry and wanks that run the banks get paid monkies while the rest of us get paid peanuts
Luciano
I won't run off a list but I would certainly sort out the earnings of the working class and make it fair and get a decent wage to the masses
remember the people that run this cuntry and wanks that run the banks get paid monkies while the rest of us get paid peanuts
Luciano
22-09-2010, 12:57 PM
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1. Ban all Trucks, Vans ,Buses, 4x4 & Motor Cyclists from the roads - should free it up for us Petrol Heads
2. Ban all drivers under 25 - To make the roads safer.
3. Raise the Speed Limit on Motorways to 200 with a written certificate of praise if you achieve it.
4. 30mph limits to be kept & maybe dropped to 15mph in red light districts.
5. Drink Driving & failure to comply with No. 4 should result in a 10 year loss of life.
2. Ban all drivers under 25 - To make the roads safer.
3. Raise the Speed Limit on Motorways to 200 with a written certificate of praise if you achieve it.
4. 30mph limits to be kept & maybe dropped to 15mph in red light districts.
5. Drink Driving & failure to comply with No. 4 should result in a 10 year loss of life.
