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Old 21-08-2010, 08:44 PM
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looking how to get between 600 - 800 bhp out of a ford sierra sapp 2wd cosworth

wot parts are needed
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lots
fully worked engine,head,pistons,rods,crank,inlet,big turbo,descent management,gearbox,diff,etc etc

a lot of money lol
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Old 21-08-2010, 08:55 PM
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you will probally need about 40-50 grand to start.
Old 21-08-2010, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kedazz
looking how to get between 600 - 800 bhp out of a ford sierra sapp 2wd cosworth

wot parts are needed
i would drop martin reyland a pm or contact harvey gibbs as both
there cars are running that sort of bhp.

hope this helps mte
Old 21-08-2010, 08:58 PM
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You need to speak to Mark @ MAD
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TBH first thing i would do is talk to Rod or mark at MAD

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Old 21-08-2010, 09:06 PM
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deep pockets

what is your budget?

i hate doubting people, but it is the weekend and school holidays. judging by some of your other threads you've started i really doubt you are building a 800hp cosworth - maybe i'm wrong but i doubt it

Old 21-08-2010, 09:11 PM
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It's the old;
"If you have to ask..."

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Old 21-08-2010, 09:11 PM
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He's got a chinkychento, he's not building a 800hp cosworth lol..
Old 21-08-2010, 09:13 PM
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someone get the biscuts !!!


and what u want as 600 - 800 are worlds apart !!


but id say 40-50 k for your engine setup

then an additional 10-15k for transmission


then theres brakes shocks , ect ect ect ect !!!!!!
Old 21-08-2010, 09:34 PM
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Yes DEEP pockets!!!!
Old 21-08-2010, 10:29 PM
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Just buy an 800bhp turbo and job done
Old 21-08-2010, 10:35 PM
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what you need is 4 t3s one for each cylinder on a 4 way adapter to fit them on the manifold, thatl see you 100000 bhp lol

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You need one of these,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-FORD-KA-FI...1625f6ffefb133
Coupled with an ebay special chip, and about 15 stickers, that should see near 800bhp, even more on a healthy engine.
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words fail me, and to think how many people actually buy these things
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
You need one of these,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-FORD-KA-FI...1625f6ffefb133
Coupled with an ebay special chip, and about 15 stickers, that should see near 800bhp, even more on a healthy engine.
damn and to think iv just spent 5k on my engine, Could've al be done for £95! Lol
Old 22-08-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by nmmfast
you will probally need about 40-50 grand to start.
Nearer 60/70k & 100's of extra man hours for the trivia. Been there done that, my advice is dont bother.
Old 22-08-2010, 09:35 AM
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as said alot of big money and time, personally for a fast road cosworth i reckon about 380-400 is plenty
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if i were going for that kind of bhp i would start with a v8 no doub't or even a v6 go have a word with the skogenracing.com lads they use the v6 and pushing big bhp i think mickeals capri is pushing around the 600hp mark i know he's running a holset gt40

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I'd like to know where 60k goes on ONE single yb engine.
I imagine the first attempt that went wrong and the next engine that did the numbers might total that.. But ONE single engine.. Really!?

EDIT: not saying it don't cost that, ive never built one so dont have a clue..but i'd like to see a break down of the figures. As that seems crazy.

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am sure if rod gets a spare half hour he could do a breakdown of prices on things for the engine build lol
Old 22-08-2010, 10:06 AM
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t34 and greys,if you want anymore you will need an intercooler and exhaust,after you have done that it will be around 908 bhp atw.dont think your pocket money will stretch to that though
Old 22-08-2010, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Yes DEEP pockets!!!!
From the man who knows !
Old 22-08-2010, 10:10 AM
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in all seriousness its crazy even considering that kind of power and a yb when 800 bhp skylines are available from £19000 ready built, that particular one has only done 5k miles on fresh pro built engine aswell. ah well im off ploughing again now
Old 22-08-2010, 10:11 AM
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Get a big V8 (like a LS*) crate engine and turbocharge that also cheaper than fucking about with a YB.
Old 22-08-2010, 10:16 AM
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Huge money needed for that sort of power and for a 2L engine really is asking far too much. Longevity springs to mind and small engines tuned this far wont have any.If you have huge sums to spend theres lots of quality rapid vehicles out there for far less money..
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
in all seriousness its crazy even considering that kind of power and a yb when 800 bhp skylines are available from £19000 ready built, that particular one has only done 5k miles on fresh pro built engine aswell. ah well im off ploughing again now
If I'm honest, if I wanted a car with 800bhp+ I wouldn't be chosing a cosworth, it'd have to be something like a skyline.
Old 22-08-2010, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
If I'm honest, if I wanted a car with 800bhp+ I wouldn't be chosing a cosworth, it'd have to be something like a skyline.
You'd spend just as much tuning the RB25/6 engine as you would a YB. 2JZ engine is another option, the Supra. Standard 'box will take a good 800bhp so there's some money saved straight away
VAG 1.8T is another good engine for high spec, saw a fairly new 485bhp Polo in Redline mag a few issue's ago, that had the 1.8T.
4G63 in the Evo, another engine that responds well to tuning.

Basically, there's many other options you should consider first, don't just jump at the YB because it's known for high BHP, many other cars will manage that sort of power, but in reality, where the fuck are you actually going to use it?!?! The clutch you'd need to handle it would be violent and you'd soon get pissy with it on the road.
300-400bhp would be more than adequate, which is Scooby/Evo territoy, so you could soon surprise a few people! As well as some Beemers.
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Im always amazed when people tell me what A 800BHP YB costs & how it cant be driven on the road because it wont last .
Perhaps i know what im talking about, because ive spent 4 years building such a car.
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Im always amazed when people tell me what A 800BHP YB costs & how it cant be driven on the road because it wont last .
Perhaps i know what im talking about, because ive spent 4 years building such a car.
have you still got the video of your car and yum (i think)?

the camera is pointed out of your back window and it shows the difference between a quick car & an insanely quick car
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600, no big deal TBH, expensive but can be done with basically off the shelf parts.

800, not easy, there are a couple of tuners who have done it repeatedly that spring to mind (SCS and MAD) so TBH the cheapest way is going to be to just buy their development knowledge by commissioning an engine from one of them, rather than go through all the pain and failures yourself that you'll need to go through to get to that level.
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it just a know someone selling a 2wd red cossie and was looking at buying it ad getting between 600-800bhp but the arsehole sold the car on me but still good to know how much it will cost was told around £80,000
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You just cant lump 600 and 800 bhp together when you are looking at the cost, they are a world apart.
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I'd love 500
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here you go mate found just the link for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m24uUzJgfwQ
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Im always amazed when people tell me what A 800BHP YB costs & how it cant be driven on the road because it wont last .
Perhaps i know what im talking about, because ive spent 4 years building such a car.
As far as I can see, no one has said it can't be driven on the road because it won't last?
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
You'd spend just as much tuning the RB25/6 engine as you would a YB. 2JZ engine is another option, the Supra. Standard 'box will take a good 800bhp so there's some money saved straight away
VAG 1.8T is another good engine for high spec, saw a fairly new 485bhp Polo in Redline mag a few issue's ago, that had the 1.8T.
4G63 in the Evo, another engine that responds well to tuning.

Basically, there's many other options you should consider first, don't just jump at the YB because it's known for high BHP, many other cars will manage that sort of power, but in reality, where the fuck are you actually going to use it?!?! The clutch you'd need to handle it would be violent and you'd soon get pissy with it on the road.
300-400bhp would be more than adequate, which is Scooby/Evo territoy, so you could soon surprise a few people! As well as some Beemers.

a skyline would be miles cheaper if its bought already done and they are available whereas 800 bhp cosworths are not, if they were theyd be much more £££ than a skyline.
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Originally Posted by MadRod
Im always amazed when people tell me what A 800BHP YB costs & how it cant be driven on the road because it wont last .
Perhaps i know what im talking about, because ive spent 4 years building such a car.
there's a difference! you can run low and high boost. so high when you want it.. simples.


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