markk

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the meachnical parts are nothing to buy really, its the R+D you are paying for from the people who have already destroyed motors getting it to make the numbers reliably.

e.g new head from cosworth will cost you no more that £5.5K when you have paid to buy it/mod it and build it.
A new block bare cast to your specs £2.5k, crankshaft £1500, rods £1000, pistons £600, turbo £1500, then add in all the bits you need, still no where near £80k !.

its all in the labour and development costs you will be paying for, and rightly so.

saph4be

surely yours has not been built long enoutgh to state thet it lasts it not even running full boost yet! come back in a year and make that statement when you done some miles! then i'll belive you

lee2cossies

iTrader: (2)

Am sure i read somewhere that the new engine in the scs escort,which is very near 800hp, can be built for £28k.

littleknocks

Simple as that!

markk

iTrader: (2)

if thats a turn key conversion then thats a good price.

gjh

Surely if its already been done on more than one occasion then you don't need much research and development? Can't you just follow whats already been done with say Rod's engine or Martin's

Mark Shead

Rod est would be from a stock car, a 800hp engine would be around 25k depending on spec, but to make it a reliable car you need to add a whole lot more around the engine.

Mark

Mark Shead

To make it reliable is in the detail and not the released spec so you just cant copy whats posted.

Mark

Rod-Tarry

Slightly more than my engine then. So hes on standard brakes, Suspension his he & he must have a good standard box to handle that Power .
Im impressed by his accleration times & their was me thinking he had uprated a few bits.

markk

iTrader: (2)

Rod thats not what the post was about, he did not ask about a whole package, only about aquiring the HP, one had to assume he already had the required package to handle the required output

RichardPON

How did you get on in your a-levels?

turnover

as said go for the 600hp option will be alot cheeper and more reliable

Rod-Tarry

It dont stop thats the point. The Spec of mine has changed cant tell you why or how cos i will get killed but Marks moving on all the time. My Turbo is now old hat & Marks testing others if successfull it will go on mine.
The released Spec of mine shall we say dont tell the whole truth, why would it.

steven mc kay

i am 99.9% sure one of harveys new 2.2 stroker engines( 790 bhp 620 flb i think it made ) same as his car is in and around 23 to 25k thats ecu the lot ready to plug and play. that good value for money.
then you have the job done
thanks steven..

jaiscossie

Go and buy yourself summit like this for around 20-25k and save yourself around 50k

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1870815.htm

or this

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1935948.htm

and save all the 100s of hours headache

Red16

I really like that

lee2cossies

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I meant the engine on its own.But i didnt expect nothing other than a reply like that from you.SCs just build an engine aiming for 720hp first time around and it makes virtualy 800hp on race fuel,and they make no fuss and bother about it like some people.Enough said.

gjh

I like this!!

gjh

Sorry I didn't mean it like to just copy what you would see in a tech panel of a mag or something, I was trying to say like if he came to you asking for an engine of that spec you could use the methods used when building Rods engine and the other engines you have built, if you see what I'm trying to say.

Rod-Tarry

OK bud im back.

Running 2.9bar for 1 year ( it dont have a low boost setting) just shy of 5k miles now & still going strong is there anything else you wish to know about running a 850bhp car on the road.

YOREVOL

cosworth yb division one rallycross engine on ebay only 543bhp but 920Nm torque.
bargain at £52,580. (i would want free delivery though)
not bad to fit to a 20 year old car.

jigsaw

^ i can't believe you actually waited a year and made the above post rod, legend lol

joffy

iTrader: (1)

Rod, you seriously dug this thread up just to make that point?

Gary F

iTrader: (1)

He's just saying

Gordon1

can i ask where the 5k was done ?
as if it was at 70mph i don't class that as tested

am not having ago just asking

Kevin_Mc

tbf he was asked to report back in a year's time - fair doos!

ajamesc

well id say it must get driven hard as i was in the gym with his son the other day and he tells me i wouldent believe how f**king fast it gets to the high 180s on a not so long bit of road in a certian town lol

ram

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lol i would consider 5k in a year flat out with 850bhp a little hard to do wouldnt you

chaffe

isnt that what the throttle is for?

RstAaron.

Good to see you haven't lost your marbles Rod and can remember that far back! I struggle to remember what I had for breakfast! Lol

rsmark86

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id rather standard ish and less debts lol was thinking the other week of selling all my running gear and buying a less powerful lump then my mate brought a saph and i changed my mind lol

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

he could join up with mo and get 800bhp in a week end

RstAaron.

...then change his mind and get a saxo.

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

and go and kill supercars because its got a peco big bore 4

R4N SS

iTrader: (6)

i'd say Rod's car has done well for a high powerful motor

rsmark86

iTrader: (3)

be alot cheaper to pay mark for rods spec than to be build from scratch

saph4be

i forgot i had even wrote this but fair enough it would seem reliable well done mate!

wozzy

fuckin brilliant!!!! rod i'll drop you a pm on here when its time for my engine to go on norris's engine dyno if you still wanna come along

you've obviously never seen rod drive. He's the craziest 60 something year old i've seen

gjh

Are we any closer to getting 800bhp from of the shelf parts? What I meant when I posted on here a while ago is if a customer went to MAD or reyland and asked for an engine like Rods/Hadlands etc then it won't be to big a job? I mean Mark built Rods engine so surely he could do it again for another customer?

Mark Shead

I have 3 engines on the go with that spec, So its not a problem to do more and they all have the upgrades we have learnt on Rods and its testing.

Mark