Spiky

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i can go buy a Lynx SC and kit to fit my 205 for 3.5 all in which includes the rotex SC,

now i am saving for it, but, it's quite pricey

suggested by Will on here and the fact i just found someone on the 205 forum, has made a BMW cooper Eaton M45 SC fit his 205

so, my question is, is there anyone on here that could do some fab work to make it fit my 205?

bits i would need

Inlet manifold with TB fitting
air filter to SC fitting
SC to Intercooler pipe work

here are some pics of the 205 i have spotted to give you an idea. and of the fittings on a std M45 SC

NEIL A

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MK Motorsport ??

Or FMS

Mint FRST

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Did Karl Norris build a 205 Mi16 Turbo breathing through twin webers?

Surely he would be the man or the guy from the 205 forum your using?

GaryHurn

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steve stripe could do it im sure

anyone handy with metal and ally work ... reyland could also sort it no problems im sure

Spiky

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who's mk motorsport?


the guy on the 205 forum dont want to make any kits like his

Spiky

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who is steve stripe?

reyland dont do the fab work another company would, which i would think would just add to the cost? (maybe wrong though)

GaryHurn

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try alwyn at alimax he did my ally work on my nova he does all manor of wild and wonderful things

Spiky

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good call

Spiky

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something like this for the SC to Intercooler

NEIL A

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Just seen this on ebay while looking at 205's

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-205-30...item2eae6fc018

Spiky

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thats a gti6 engine and a m45, thats not got a Intercooler though, else looks a good setup, i would need an intercooler due to being a track car

good find though

Spiky

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWAX:IT


well one part is easy to source


any others on here able to have a go or know some one

obviuously i wont be paying thousands for the conversion as i can buy a full kit with rotex for 3.5k inc EVERYTHING

tabetha

I know a man who can do this with ease, has all the machinary + experience needed, will make anything and everything from historic F 1 roll bars to repairing lawnmowers making from ground up complete new aluminum tubs for race cars(F1), to mod kit for bomb disposal guys.
I've only ever heard him say no, and that was on safety grounds, ie he didn't consider it safe what the customer wanted.
tabetha
pm me if interested, located in Norfolk, Near norwich.

Spiky

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sounds great, but would prefer local, as this is a custom job, having modifications would just be a pain, travelling accross the uk

Chip

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If its a mini cooper eaton charger you can buy the intake and outlet adaptors, ive got some knocking around somewhere i'll get a picture of for you.

Garage19 would be perfect for doing all that stuff but I think he is just too busy at the moment sadly

Easiest way to do the inlet is use a TB inlet manifold and a pulsar plenum, Neil Adams on Vauxsport does the backing plates and spacer plates for these.

Chip

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would you say his fab skills are on a par with emeralds ability to create mapping software?

Spiky

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yeah it's an eaton m45 from a mini cooper

would appreciate tghe adpter pics, as this would bring the cost right down, if they are readily available, bit like that ebay item

Slevin Kelevra

Spiky,

contact rapidcossie as sounds of silence has lots of experience with 205s etc. I know that they are quite far away from you but they might be able to help.


cheers

Spiky

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if they were closer i would, but like my reply above, sadly to far away when i'm doing something new, which is bound to have teeth/fitting issues

Chip

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You do realise you arent going to get much past 200bhp on that charger mate?

Spiky

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guy on 205 forum on stock mi16 engine and stock m45 has 251 bhp

ideally thats all i want

Chip

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I simply dont believe that figure, the charger wont flow 270-280bhp worth of air, thats upwards of 25lbs of airflow!
(bear in mind at that level you would be losing 20-30bhp at the crank driving it)

The reason there are so many of these chargers kicking about is that all the decent tuning firms know they are NOT reliable much past 200bhp, so fuck them off and fit something bigger!

Spiky

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hmmmm, i have asked the guys some questions already so await his reply

here are two seperate rolling road graphs

Spiky

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he has this

-15% supercharger pulley

i assume it means it rulling more boost?

he says his is making 0.55 bar of boost

Chip

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Smaller supercharger pulley will turn it faster, potentially the last thing you want to do as they will utterly shit themselves if turned at 20K rpm, which is the sort of region you'll end up with spinning one hard on an engine that revs to 8K (bear in mind 20K is only 2.5:1 gearing)

Chip

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Does that lad do dozens of trackdays a year with dozens of sessions a day like you do? Or does he just potter about on the road and do the occasional rolling road day.

Those chargers just arent reliable at that sort of level if you use them as hard as you will.

Making the power is one thing, but it just wont do it for long, they cant handle it.

Spiky

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has done some hill climb, but dont think it gets the abuse i would give it

Spiky

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well going by chips reply, and i need reliability, the M45 isnt possibly up to the job

so i will keep saving for the rotex jobbie, unless something else pops up


ah well, was hoping to SC it for cheaper than i can do.

Chip

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Use an M62 instead mate (room permitting), that will do the trick and not much dearer to buy, as an added bonus many of them have an electronic clutch that can turn them off when you are just cruising to and from trackdays.

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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SteveW

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Thats the end of that cheaper idea they spiky, i will keep saving for your itb's then

Spiky

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well looking on the Eaton site the M62 isnt much difference in size to the M45

need to find prices now

lead_foot

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Why not use a turbo instead of a sc?

Spiky

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to turbo my 16v engine i need a 1k manifold to start with, and the total costs would be quite high

or i could use a 8v turbo engine, but it's not really a high power relaible engine.

so was just weighing up other options

chettle

theres a company near me called Constella, hes done a couple of supercharged pugs, and gave a good friend quite a bit of help with his 408bhp supercharged gti6...

imo what he doesnt know about 205's isnt worth knowing! they are based near Leicester but could be worth a phonecall at least

wattie

why not put the turbo at the rear?? seen a pug 205 in practical performance magazine and that was turbod but the turbo was in place of the back box, the owned said it worked quite well with not much lag at all conciderin where it is, would be good to see someone else do this

Chip

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Its not much bigger, but its enough bigger to easily do the power that you want.

Chip

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I'd like to do one at some point, considered it for my clio but Ive got a couple of proper turbo manifolds in stock so be a bit pointless on that really.
Going to do it on something at some point though, just to try it out.

Spiky

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Garage19 says I might have forgot about alternator, there isn't no proba running the alt off the same belt as the sc and crank pully is there?

Like standard? As I'm hoping there will be room below well connect to sump as that's where the ac sits on the gti6

dingla rs

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mk is trader on here mate ,he has cnc machine