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Old 15-07-2010, 11:10 AM
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i ran my 03 l200 warrior on chippy oil for a few month with no problem, you just have to siv it a few times to get the shit out & then strait in, never mixed it or fuck all
Old 15-07-2010, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gingeRS
being a diesel engineer i know a bit about this, you dont want to run anything newer than say 03-04 on veg oil. Common rail high pressure systems do not react well to biodiesel (and this is far superior to veg oil).

why cant you run the bio on high pressure common rail?

Im currently running homebrew bio in my common rail ashtray for the last 2 years and no issues what so ever.
Old 15-07-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
why cant you run the bio on high pressure common rail?

Im currently running homebrew bio in my common rail ashtray for the last 2 years and no issues what so ever.

some of the newer common rail systems are highly senstitve to injection pressure, because of the random nature of the feedstocks used for biodiesel production the vicosity and density are highly variable. this can lead to the system not being able to cope with the higher pressures, as most are designed to run on the limit with calibration fuel, and can damage components. In some of the very newest systems the overpressure can cause ECU faults as well as the fuel can cause a discrepancy between the expected pressure of the system and the actual measured pressure on the rail sensor.
Old 15-07-2010, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by CoupeUK
Mate of mine runs his 54 330d Msport on red
Hope he's got plenty of KY jelly in the glove box.
Old 15-07-2010, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CoupeUK
Mate of mine runs his 54 330d Msport on red

a couple of lads round my way run 10 plate audis and golfs on it.
Old 15-07-2010, 06:38 PM
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if teh vans a shed you can tube out the filler neck so it holds white then put a fille rinto the rear floor and fill it there

of course while ive never done it, i have know of it, but you end up driving all over the place for no reason cos its free (depending where you get it )

farmers round here all run it, they get an allowance of miles they can use it and also dont need mot or tax either, 8 miles a day or summet, maybe much less but once you have no mots whos to say how many miles you do, they have landys with massive holes and alsorts , 1 guys fat missus fell thru the buck of his old landy the other day, chassis was gone right to the cab
Old 15-07-2010, 08:10 PM
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heard about big trucks that run red and white tanks !
Old 15-07-2010, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Mal.
I know a fella who used to run his Pug 309 diseasel on heating oil.
Originally Posted by steves24V's
So did i lol and it was a 309
Originally Posted by vaughant
Heating oils fine on older diesels,just shove a bit of engine oil in the mix before you put it in.......to use privatley of course!!
Originally Posted by gingeRS
heating oil can be used in cars (assuming its not dyed (in 95% of cases it is)) but like stated before it has no lubricity additives, so will quickly f*ck your diesel pump when used for extended periods of time.
I have heard this sort of thing being done in Escort Vans (not mine of course ) with no problems over the last couple of years.
Old 15-07-2010, 08:58 PM
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i got caught a few years ago after been grassed up,vosa came and dipped my car a pug 205 on the drive it was 100% red got fined £500 for using it ect altogether.said i had to drain the tank of what was in it but just used it and they never came back to check.

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Old 15-07-2010, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Si B
I have heard this sort of thing being done in Escort Vans (not mine of course ) with no problems over the last couple of years.
If its a lucas pump like fiesta simon you will have to do a twin tank installaion as the pump will more than likely be lucas.Run mine sometimes on bio-diesel local company does it about 20pence a litre cheaper than pump diesel
Old 16-07-2010, 03:08 PM
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I never thought this would of been such a popular thread!! What sort of fine is it if caught using red??
Old 16-07-2010, 03:43 PM
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I run my astra 1.7td on neat veg oil, it's 72p litre brand new. Runs fine on it, better with 10% normal weasel mixed in, but at that price it's well with it IMHO! Over 50p a litre saving!
Old 16-07-2010, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by timster
If its a lucas pump like fiesta simon you will have to do a twin tank installaion as the pump will more than likely be lucas.Run mine sometimes on bio-diesel local company does it about 20pence a litre cheaper than pump diesel
I'm confused Easily done at my age!

The Escort vans I know of, are totally standard, no mods done to them and run on heating oil. I keep telling the owner it's dodgy as hell, but he likes the saving, and considers the van disposable if they ever do confiscate it
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Will running on Red Diesel affect the car come MOT emission's time??

Also whats the fine for it??
Old 20-07-2010, 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Fordmad!
Will running on Red Diesel affect the car come MOT emission's time??

Also whats the fine for it??
nope as its off road diesel it should be made to EN590 spec so it wont affect you emmissions. (its just dyed pump fuel)

as for the fine, dunno, but lots i expect
Old 20-07-2010, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Fordmad!
Will running on Red Diesel affect the car come MOT emission's time??

Also whats the fine for it??
I think the fine is can be £500 or something like that, then they can work out how many miles you have driven since you have owned the car and charge you the vat and then they have the powers to take the car off you, if you have 2 tanks, one for white and one for red that is fraued and thats a week or two in prison.

Thats what a custom and excise bloke told me as he was shoving a pipe in my diesel tank, lucky it was the white tank.
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Originally Posted by david 100
I think the fine is can be £500 or something like that, then they can work out how many miles you have driven since you have owned the car and charge you the vat and then they have the powers to take the car off you, if you have 2 tanks, one for white and one for red that is fraued and thats a week or two in prison.

Thats what a custom and excise bloke told me as he was shoving a pipe in my diesel tank, lucky it was the white tank.
were you sweating much lol

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Old 20-07-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Si B
I'm confused Easily done at my age!

The Escort vans I know of, are totally standard, no mods done to them and run on heating oil. I keep telling the owner it's dodgy as hell, but he likes the saving, and considers the van disposable if they ever do confiscate it
i have been running my 1996 escort van on heating oil for the past year, every now and then i will fill it with diesal, but had no problems what so ever. it costs me £20 to fill my van, and the van only cost me £200 so if it breaks i will just replace it, i do around 500 miles a week so im saving a lot of money
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