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Old 06-07-2010, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NoRubNoDub
Who will get the game winning kill?
Will it be done with a Claymore?
Old 06-07-2010, 05:11 PM
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it's a bit fucked up really, i hope it doesn't end up in a michael mann style shoot out
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hes hiding in my spare bedroom


just took him up sausage egg n chips




i dont c what all the fuss is about , top bloke let me hold his gun and everything




beef
Old 06-07-2010, 05:14 PM
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i am watching it
Old 06-07-2010, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
hes hiding in my spare bedroom


just took him up sausage egg n chips




i dont c what all the fuss is about , top bloke let me hold his gun and everything




beef
BREAKING NEWS ON SKY!!!!!!

CUDDLY GINGER NORTHERN BLOKE ARRESTED FOR HIDING WANTED MURDERER!!!!!!!!!!!

Old 06-07-2010, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
hes hiding in my spare bedroom


just took him up sausage egg n chips




i dont c what all the fuss is about , top bloke let me hold his gun and everything




beef
:shoc ked:

WHAT!!!


NO PARMO!!!!!!

Old 06-07-2010, 05:21 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Raoul-...40090389340496

right regularray mears ain't he

or maybe he's a bit bear grills?
Old 06-07-2010, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Raoul-...40090389340496

right regularray mears ain't he

or maybe he's a bit bear grills?
Wonder if he got battered?

The fish i mean.

Hope he gets caught soon tho.
Old 06-07-2010, 05:26 PM
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i reckon he`ll go down fighting,if he got any firearms at his disposal that is
he might only have the one gun and no ammo left
Old 06-07-2010, 06:32 PM
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:39 PM
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Not read all of the thread but has anyone tried to get on his facebook account?
Old 06-07-2010, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by -beefy-
hes hiding in my spare bedroom


just took him up the sausage chute




i dont c what all the fuss is about , top bloke let me touch his weapon and everything




beef



Eh..!!! No reach around???

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Old 06-07-2010, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BM08
Not read all of the thread but has anyone tried to get on his facebook account?
Get to fuck.

You got FB Mr 95 8gig?
Old 06-07-2010, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
Get to fuck.

You got FB Mr 95 8gig?
Nope not me, and i didnt want to use my misses account because he might still be checking his account and seeing whos been viewing
Old 06-07-2010, 07:02 PM
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Suicide by police I reckon...
Old 06-07-2010, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BM08
Nope not me, and i didnt want to use my misses account because he might still be checking his account and seeing whos been viewing
Say again get to fuck.

Your mums on FB!!!!

PM name please
Old 06-07-2010, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkyMark
but they would be harbouring a fugative and obstructing police not really conspiracy
probably a good way to hold them longer. conspiracy for murder would be less likely to get bail than harbouring a fugitive. at least that way they are "out the way" while the hunt goes on.

hell they may have supplied ammo etc.
Originally Posted by rsmat
he needs some tips from either me or warren.....
he's not doing too bad for staying uncaptured to be fair although his shooting skills leave a lot to be desired.

Originally Posted by wirralphil
WHAT!!!
NO PARMO!!!!!!
Now beefys ruined it all. the guys going to go postal because of no parmo!!!
Old 06-07-2010, 07:38 PM
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declared war on the Police and said he wont stop until he is shot dead, wonder if the police will do that or take him down with a non leathel weapon like the baton gun just to p*** him off some more!
Old 06-07-2010, 07:53 PM
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depends on the threat the police face.

remember batons and tasers are close range weapons and hence high risk for the police if the man has a gun and wants to use it.

i guess they could do rubber bullets Northern Ireland style! Bit more range then.

All depends on the threat they face at the time and the decision of the officers on the ground.
Old 06-07-2010, 09:13 PM
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After what the cabbie done i can see him trying to go all out shoot fest when he is caught.

Shame other people will suffer from whats happened.
Old 06-07-2010, 10:09 PM
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If he is armed with a firearm and threatening to use it, then they wont seek to use less lethal... Golden rule: Never take a knife to a gun fight.

If he is surrendering whilst still carrying a firearm then he will be covered with a firearm and with a less lethal option.

Hopefuly he will see sense and realise he is seriously outgunned.

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Old 06-07-2010, 10:24 PM
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Just Seen around 20 police vehicles going by my house there all irish regs wonder if they are going for back up
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Don't look like the type to want to survive so I put money on his "commiting suicide" as oposed to firearm plod filling him full of lead
Old 07-07-2010, 02:32 AM
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committing suicide and suicide by cop are pretty much the same really, except for cowards tend to go for suicide by cop.
Old 07-07-2010, 07:29 AM
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ive previously worked with him on the doors in newcastle, nice enough guy just not one to cross as has been seen over the last few days.....
Old 07-07-2010, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by d3signworks
ive previously worked with him on the doors in newcastle, nice enough guy just not one to cross as has been seen over the last few days.....

Nice enough guy? are you sure?

These are not the actions of a stable person that has "been crossed"!
Old 07-07-2010, 08:02 AM
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see this is the problem. ive known of him now for the best part of 7 - 8 years, yes he is classed as a "hard man" or "someone not to mess with" depending how you would want to look at him as a person, would never had expected all this to happen so would assume something has pushed him over the edge,
dont help when the press report nothing but bad stuff about a person, yeh nobody has the right to kill another person but everybody has a limit, once its broken what are they capable of ......
Old 07-07-2010, 08:06 AM
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I know ppl that are the nicest ppl you could ever meet but also could be the worst enemy you could ever wish for so i know where your coming from.
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Lol, always makes me laugh when people say "he was such a nice guy"....There's a brilliant sketch on youtube with Billy Connolly going on about serial killers and how everyone is always amazed that it turns out to be them, and no one ever says he was a right c*nt and i hated him...just for ONCE i'd like the press to interview someone that actually hates the accused!
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as i said ive known him through working the doors, i know from experience that he would not watch while somebody tried sticking a broken bottle in my back, he aint ever been a mate but an aquantance from who ive never had a personal issue with him so to me yes he is a nice lad but i am surprised whats going on now
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What they are reporting as the final straw is that his ex was taunting him by saying she was going out with a copper and apparently he wouldn't have shot him at all other than her goading him on.
And, by that logic, and if this was America, you would probably find that the ex bint who's got shot would be up in front of the beak accused of kicking everything off.

Obviously here in the uk we are more civilised and accept the fact that women go bonkers and we let them off when they kill becuase of their "hormones" and the fact they they are women and have bonkers moments when they are on the blob.
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley
I'm also certain this may well be a catalyst for all officers having to be firearms trained.
Absolutely agree there...
Old 07-07-2010, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
committing suicide and suicide by cop are pretty much the same really, except for cowards tend to go for suicide by cop.
What's your logic? cowardly all round IMO. Do you mean in terms of dimished responsibility?

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Old 07-07-2010, 09:40 AM
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Brownie was a friend of a friend from Slough, I met him a few times (the guy he shot).
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
Say again get to fuck.

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Originally Posted by Ad4m RST
What's your logic? cowardly all round IMO. Do you mean in terms of dimished responsibility?
no, if your going to kill yourself it takes guts to pull the trigger/slash your wrists etc etc, where as its easier to get someone else to shoot you. And getting someone else to shoot you is cowardly as clearly you dont have the guts to do it to yourself and dont give a shit about the impact on the officers having to shoot you.

you could argue the whole suicide thing in his case is cowardly as killing himself means he isnt facing up to the crimes he has committed. And if hes such a "hard man" then hed face up to the reality and do the rest of his life in prison. Although being a bouncer, a bit of a fighter and working out doesnt make you a hard man IMO.
Originally Posted by Markb_s1
Nice enough guy? are you sure?
exactly, how many "nice guys" end up in prison??

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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
no, if your going to kill yourself it takes guts to pull the trigger/slash your wrists etc etc, where as its easier to get someone else to shoot you. And getting someone else to shoot you is cowardly as clearly you dont have the guts to do it to yourself and dont give a shit about the impact on the officers having to shoot you.
Diminished responsibilty then, cool...
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insanity is probably a better claim he clearly knows exactly what he is doing from his letters and phone calls. he just dont give a shit anymore.
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Originally Posted by Rick Astley

I'd be very concerned right now if I was a Police Officer in that area that is for sure! I'm also certain this may well be a catalyst for all officers having to be firearms trained.

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They wont routinely arm every officer due to the cost and the time it takes to initially train them and then to keep them current with their specific skill.

Believe it or not, but a majority of Police Officers polled showed that they didnt wish to carry a firearm. Some felt that they didnt wish to be in a position to take a life, or some felt that they couldnt cope with aftermath of potentially having to shoot someone and the effect this would have on their life afterwards. Some dont relish the fact that they could be appearing in court charged with manslaughter or murder when they feel that they have simply done their job. Can you imagine not knowing your fate for up to 6 years?


Firearms officers are taken from volunteers and it would be wrong to make carrying compulsory. It is also about a persons capability of using a firearm compentently. Everyone knows how to pull a trigger, but can everyone hit the target they are aiming at? Can they make the right decision when to pull the trigger? .. not everyones cup of tea.

I just hope no-one else gets hurt.
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
no, if your going to kill yourself it takes guts to pull the trigger/slash your wrists etc etc, where as its easier to get someone else to shoot you. And getting someone else to shoot you is cowardly as clearly you dont have the guts to do it to yourself and dont give a shit about the impact on the officers having to shoot you.

you could argue the whole suicide thing in his case is cowardly as killing himself means he isnt facing up to the crimes he has committed. And if hes such a "hard man" then hed face up to the reality and do the rest of his life in prison. Although being a bouncer, a bit of a fighter and working out doesnt make you a hard man IMO.
i was mearly pointing out that the armed plod wuold bang him full of holes and then claim it was suicide in order to make it nice and easy to finish the paperwork


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