ive been looking to by a saph for a while and ive been told of 1 that a mate owns (havnt seen him for a while)

he says its a big spec genuine 450 atw.

whats that gonna drive like on the road? is it a spin up in 3rd in the dry sorta thing? dunno if im feeling that lol

would it make sense to drop the power down and sell the big turbo for a smaller one etc?

ive had a 300 brake cossie if it helps

thanks peeps

 

well i've drove my 200sx when it was 420@wheels and it was pretty mental, but I did go from a 80 bhp corsa 1.2 It's 355@wheels atm and 1st, 2nd no chance, the odd time 3rd at the wrong sped it'll spin in the dry. in the wet dont even think about it, 85/90 as it comes on boost in 5th and it steps out!

Depends what you want from the car and what you want it to do!

 

post up the spec; alot of pub talk figures with big bhp and yet they are still on a t34 and getting 500hp

standard beam? diff? etc

 

im going for 450plus 2wd and to be honest it scares the fook out of me ,will definatley be a dry weather car

i also had a 330bhp one years ago and that was mental in the wet,used to step out at 70 plus in the wet

 

if it is a genuine 450 atw car treat it to a boost controller will make it much more useable

 

I had 376 ATW and it was PLENTY of fun.....

Do you know the exact Spec of the said car fella??

 

Mines running 500 although not at wheels and is really nice to drive. It grips really well once in third and am on STD beam at the mo. Although not too low on the back. Some people with stage3 cossies say theirs wheelspinning in4th ect must be going some.

 

I've never had wheel-spin in 4th in ANY of my cossies....

 

Why dont people spend the money to sort their cars before getting a Power increase or its a waste of money surely.

 

Mine is 411 at the wheels. With Toyo 888 i get no wheel spin in 2nd gear. the back end twitches a bit and the wheels try to spin but so far so good. I have the standard rear beam still as well for now.

 

id like a beam next for mine when i have some spare cash.. although ive been in a well specd 3door with a beam and 888s and still felt it struggle for grip in 2nd.. ill try some 888s on the back of mine next although its not too bad with the paradas.. cant stop looking at evo s now after seeing them at coombe flying round the track all day without breaking...

 

Evo's are where its at im afraid

 

To be honest i can't even imagine how 450ATW would feel

 

Pretty quick I should imagine, I reckon if you put a pic on here of the engine bay people could tell you whether its genuine.

 

I would not see the point in buying it, if your gonna drop the power etc, might aswell go out and buy a stage 3 cossie.

 

370ATW is good enough as you know

Steve

 

waiting for a complete spec from him. it was a fast ford cover car, moonstone blue. over 30k of recipts. rekons a gt turbo of somesort siemans injectors air injecters apparently everything you can do has been done? ill wait for hm to fone me and will put it all up here

 

sort them out in what way?

did yours not run over 500bhp with the only mods to brakes or drivetrain a set of 300mm ap 4 pots??

i wouldn't call that sorting it out.


infact was it not over 700bhp doing well over 180mph with no bucket seat,harnesses,cage etc.

 

Thats interesting . 2wd and no wheel spin in 2nd with your power in the dry?

How wide are your R888's Rich ?

 

235/40/17

They actually measure something like 243 wide though so fairly wide for a saff. Arch trimming required.

Very rarely do i get wheelspin in the dry

 

mine has genuine 460+at wheels and spins as you put it into third in the dry

 

rich, what size and offset wheels do you run, also what rear suspension and what mods to inner or outter arch ?

im hoping for 225/235 on back of mine, but heard its hard work on a saff ?

cheers jim

 

You can get 235s on with out many probs if you use et33 or there abouts..
On my old race saph we rolled the rear arches and had 18x8 et 33 and 235 40s


cheers danny

 

cool ok cheers fella, i dont want to roll mine, the lip has been done but no further, wheels are et35, will have 6 degree beam on, will see what i can get away with

 

Jimbo run 235/40/17 888 on rear of my 2wd saff,on et38 mo,s with no arch rubbing

cheeRS stu

 

I reckon your get away with that on a 6 degree beam...


cheers danny

 

Well they dont seem to be the way forward in the AAA saloon championship,20 evos(including mr.Norris) and one escort cossie showing them how its done.

 

As an out the box package an evo is a very capable car,look at si bs evo,its got a well sorted motor but other than a few bolt ons its nothing special and yet it still gives my escos a run for its money!!and my car owes me serious wonger..
Dont get me wrong you wont see me going all gay and having 4x4 jap crap but for the money they are hard to beat!!

cheers danny

 

i couldnt believe how yours handled against sibs in that video at coombe ,what beam have you got in the escos danny?it just seemed planted in the chicane

 

The tags are bang on

 

Iv got a square tarmac grp a rear beam and mag rear arm set up with 9 inch rear diff
grp a spec tarmac mag billies and springs and wrc rear arb set up..
The front is wrc front cross member, tcas,billet hubs compression struts etc ..
It handles loads better than in that vid on slicks mate,i was on 225 888s that were shit for my car...but yes it handles really good for 2wd,i reckon its weight helps through the left right bends..


cheers danny

 

8x17 Koni shocks and Ahmed springs. Had to near on remove the inner lip of the rear arches. Part of it is down to the squat characteristics of a rwd saff and the obviously shit rear beam that allows the wheels to move.