MarkyMark

first one ive seen 59 plate with 319miles on the clock, but that was a gutter!







ive got 15k for it but its nearly that already! i could see this going for mega money as its unrecorded

the funny part is, the estimated insurance repair job was 12,5k!!

paul16v

Noticed this on copart, has been a few bumped and repaired now.

MarkyMark

through copart?, have kept an eye out for one for myself but first ive seen, shame its in the colour as well

was the first in the country to break the old shape focus rs, we did have quite a few of those

Ginge !

wait till your price up a wing at 350 quid and a rear quarter too,,, gonna be pricey

paul16v

Nah that is the first one ive seen on copart aswell, just noticed a couple of cat D ones for sale.

Touring Car Spares

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Im after one of these for the rolling/running gear,so if someone wants the rest let me know !

MarkyMark

is there a wider rear axle on them? have you thought about getting a new shell?

danneth

not the first one ive seen

dingla rs

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they both would repair the quarter is feck all damage iv done a lot worse

thebigmacmoomin

I want those wheels

Mr RS500

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You would pay 15k for that

are you bonkers ?

MarkyMark

possibly, care to enlighten me?

thought they are worth 22k-25k s/h?

cozzy940

well if its 12.5k repair job as you say, and you'd pay 15k for it surely you could get new for 27.5k??

andy130

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why wouldnt you? these cars sale for 24-25k? buy it for 15K cost 2-3k fix, sale for 23-24k win winan its unrecorded so fix it good no one will know

turbochild

I'm sure it was your resto/conversion thread i seen a mangled focus rs wing going from looking beyond repair to mint

MarkyMark

insurance estimated job, means the bodyshop are charging stupid amounts per hour as its a new car and insurance work, for me to repair that i wouldnt pay no where near that price,

andy thats my figures exactly mate, shame it will make more then 15k though

vaughant

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Damage is what I would say as light,looks a good deal from list/2nd hand value.the headlights/bumper etc. won't be cheap and I'd rather have them even if their broken for the bolts/bulb holders etc. but of course they could be in the boot.lovely colour that too,painted my fzr foxeye a couple of months ago that colour and it looks amazing in the sun!!!

Si B

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If anyone sees an Evo 7, 8 or 9 going through like that, let me know please

I want one for a project, not worried at all about dents top side, as long as the 4 wheels are roughly in the right place

MarkyMark

i remember you asked me a while ago si but ive only seen early ones go on there or light damaged late ones usually for good money as well

theres a nissian gt-r on there if you want something different!

turnover

there are some for sale for around 21k if you look around

Mr RS500

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That car will cost you much more than 2-3k to fix and make it look new again

you can pick these up for 20-22k all day long so by the time you have paid 15k then sorted the little hidden extras at the auction , got it home , repaired it ,, by then they will have dropped a bit more in value IMO you may as well forget it

I started out buying salvage as im a panel and paint man by trade but the arse fell out of turning a proffit years ago

The only way to make money from salvage now is by either steeing the parts to repair or steeling a car and ringing it , lol

The days of proffit from salvage went like most other things when the world wide webb kicked of big time and idiots started bidding wars with each other and just simply paid over the odds

I used to go to salvage yards buy the cars and you could have a deal there and get money of plus some of the parts needed to repair thrown in

Oh the good old days before the keyboard " i must ave it " fools

vaughant

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Tbh,you're right in your synopsis of the salvage market at the moment especially,in fact I've dabbled with the idea of buying roughish cars with no tax ticket etc and selling them as salvage on eBay etc as prices are silly.agreed also that the little clips,screws bits of trim really add up.that's why I like doing ka's as it's the same shape effectivley from 1997-2008 so if you need to make cuts etc you can get the panels somewhere rather than frauds,as their silly on prices tbh.

MarkyMark

i beg to differi its harder for sure mate, but i buy and sell a lot of salvage, added up my copart buys for so far this year and its just shy of 220k bought, now i cant afford to spend that and not get a profit!. the price of salvage has been affecte d more by the forgien buyers buying the cars and shipping aboard, cars here are a lot cheaper then rest of europe.

i started out buying salvage and putting them up for sale in my old mans parts company, it defo has changed in the past 10 year though

PKA

Bloody hell a blast from the past Mark

Ron

dingla rs

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yep that would be rite lol just takes time thats all ,i have a green back bumper for one these in me garage

Psycho Warren

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what i dont get is in this day and age how the hell to insurance bodyshops get away with quite frankly silly estimates???

Are the insurance companys fucking stupid??? youd think they would have their own independant assessor.

sure as NYRS says it aint 3k to fix but even if its 6-8k to fix then how the hell can a bodyshop justify a lie of a qoute of £12.5k???

are they getting cash in hand sweeteners from breakers yards to write off lots of cars??

Id really of expected in this day an age the insurers to have clamped down on this practice. its not in their interest or their customers interests for bodyshops to overcharge.

MarkyMark

a lot of insurers will have set rates with the bigger bodyshops and iam sure the assessors should have a half decent knowledge of repair cars to understand what is required to repair a car so i too dont understand how they come to the conclusion half the time.

say 1k-1,5k for new parts from fords, bumper head lights and wings, ive got the rest of the parts to repair it anyway plus paint i'd be looking at 3-4k to repair to to a very nice standard, smoke it for a year or so then get my money back on it or a small profit,

saying that its making more then 15k at the mo

Psycho Warren

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if you work in the "trade" and cant work out where they got the price from then surely its price fixing and corruption??

what other explanation is there? and even more reason for the insurance companies to clamp down.

there are PLENTY of bodyshops around and im sure if insurance companies rigidly enforced reasonable qoutes and costs then bodyshops would still take on the work.

MarkyMark

i work with brakers mate, never got involved in the insurance repair game but of course i know a few people in it, i remember a while back a friend of mine spent a good few k on wining and dining some insurance execs to get the contract so its like any other industry

back handers are rife in some companies that much i know

also dont forget that pretty much all of the parts will be new from fords, and we all know how much they cost

MarkyMark

how you doing ron, is that a st i spy?

Psycho Warren

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ahh but will they??? qouting for new parts and buying and fitting new parts are two different things......

MarkyMark

of course they use second hand parts, for example what would you use, a complete door in colour or a door shell in primer which will need building up. ive sold loads of parts destined for insurance repaired cars

Psycho Warren

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exactly, more proof of how corrupt the whole industry is!!

technically its fraud i would imagine. claiming for the cost of new parts while using second hand ones.

MarkyMark

they why they used to ask me to write out receiepts of a higher value, most oftern it was for private mechincal work though, just to squeeze a few more quid out of the customer

Rsmat

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my first 1 got damaged.

Petrolhead

Bang on!

By the time you buy it,transport it,source parts & repair it you could buy a straight one with no history.Not to mention your own time & labour!

theses cars have been written off for a reason!!! Repairs are not cheap when you have to pay for parts!!

vaughant

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I`m in the body game and what mark and warren are talking about DEFINATLEY goes on although tbh insurance companies are the biggest pricks you`ll ever deal with in business.I`ve just had one assessor tell me that im taking the piss asking for £30per hour for repair work and he can get it done for £26 at the better bodyshops in swansea.,turns out to be a brown envelope job!!I always quote insurance at £35-£40 per hour as they question everything and some take up to 90 days to pay you,I had one question a 26pence discrepency on an invoice once....in their favour!!!they use delaying tactics at all times and some even ask for copies of invoices,after all its my good fortune if i get a discount not theirs,cunts,the lot of them.we always try to repair old parts if we can rather than buy new as sometimes you could end up laying out thousands on parts just waiting for them to pay you which is so hard in small business.I think marks doing it the right way by keeping his repaired stuff a bit under the radar as its so hard to turn a profit when your paying big overheads etc,you must be doing well to get that sort of a turnover, if your making 20% its 40k!!!

dingla rs

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iv repaired god nose how many quarters that were down as new panels .never had one come back while i was there ,at the end day why replace when you can repair

MarkyMark

not if you use your brains you dont, fair enough its harder then it used to be but still able to turn a profit, bought a 59plate focus with 640 on the clock for 3,1k home.

for the above focus i would have used it for myself as a run about then sold it when i had a nice offer

vaughant

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Spot on again mate.