Fire damaged FRS gearbox- Rebuild needed??
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A mate gave me a gearbox from a fire damaged Focus.
Now besides the obvious speed sensor being melted, what needs replacing??
I don't want a pointless full rebuild if it doesn't need one.
We've peeped inside it and internally it seems fine. BUT what about any bearings or seals?
I don't want to fit it and find a bunch of bearings instantly shit its pants.
Will it be fucked? What's inside these? Views from gearbox bods?
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Now besides the obvious speed sensor being melted, what needs replacing??
I don't want a pointless full rebuild if it doesn't need one.
We've peeped inside it and internally it seems fine. BUT what about any bearings or seals?
I don't want to fit it and find a bunch of bearings instantly shit its pants.
Will it be fucked? What's inside these? Views from gearbox bods?
Cheers
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Sweeeet! Sorry no pics, gerabox is at Devil Developments, visiting it in a couple of days.
Nope, casing is fine, it clearly got hot though as we had to smash some melted crusty shit off the outside with a lump hammer and pry bar.
Aye, driveshaft seals, speed sensor and linkage we are onto. Was just unsure if internally there was anything to worry about and from what we could see inside, it all looked fine.
Ok, mint. I'll move forward and hopefully test it very soon. Way i view most of it is that it's been heat treated. Bonus! lol
Nope, casing is fine, it clearly got hot though as we had to smash some melted crusty shit off the outside with a lump hammer and pry bar.
Aye, driveshaft seals, speed sensor and linkage we are onto. Was just unsure if internally there was anything to worry about and from what we could see inside, it all looked fine.
Ok, mint. I'll move forward and hopefully test it very soon. Way i view most of it is that it's been heat treated. Bonus! lol
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Aye true mate, i just wanted peice of mind that there wasn't some sneaky 50p rubber or plastic seal inside waiting to spoil my week.
Get the fuck in! Just need some Mk3.5 shafts and hubs and i'm sorted
Get the fuck in! Just need some Mk3.5 shafts and hubs and i'm sorted
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Plastic cages in a heavy power box?very much doubt that.drain the oil and see what bits come out.also,go to ford and ask what seals/plastics are in the box as your looking to fully rebuild it,they should then give you a full printout and exploded diagram.is it a proper slip diff on them or a fluid filled one like on the rsturbo?could have been affected by the heat although I doubt it.I used a fire damaged box on a series two years ago with no issues.
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I had my worries over this (hence the post)
If someone can confirm either way i'll be a happy chappy.
I just don't want to go through with the conversion and then have something go boom on me. If i have to get it rebuilt, i'll take the sting but if i can get away with replacing a few bits it leaves more cash for tyres and mods.
If someone can confirm either way i'll be a happy chappy.
I just don't want to go through with the conversion and then have something go boom on me. If i have to get it rebuilt, i'll take the sting but if i can get away with replacing a few bits it leaves more cash for tyres and mods.
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It's an ATB Quaife diff. That should be fine. Heat treated. ![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Might be worth it as peace of mind unless someone knows for certain.
The donor car did get seriously hot though, Cochyns old Focus. Very little survived from it.
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Might be worth it as peace of mind unless someone knows for certain.
The donor car did get seriously hot though, Cochyns old Focus. Very little survived from it.
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neil ill order in a few bearings and see what they are made of,,,,, sorry no print outs of the materials they are made from,,,,,, well sell parts to replace,,,,,,, its ford not british aerospace pms;
the diagrams are no better than one of simons drawings im afraid
the diagrams are no better than one of simons drawings im afraid
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LOL Simons drawings!
But yes please. Just need some closure on this one. I have been told it will be fine but i've convinced myself that there are plastics and rubbers inside there that will end my fun before it gets started.
But yes please. Just need some closure on this one. I have been told it will be fine but i've convinced myself that there are plastics and rubbers inside there that will end my fun before it gets started.
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Ok,
The bearings in the diff will be ok but the layshaft bearings do indeed run in a plastic casing and these are known to fail under extreme heat. This is the main reason why most bearings fail, the plastic race faisl and leaves the actual bearings loose to do whatever they want to do.
Give Geartech in the Midlands a call on 01299 251261 if you want to chat about them.
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The bearings in the diff will be ok but the layshaft bearings do indeed run in a plastic casing and these are known to fail under extreme heat. This is the main reason why most bearings fail, the plastic race faisl and leaves the actual bearings loose to do whatever they want to do.
Give Geartech in the Midlands a call on 01299 251261 if you want to chat about them.
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Sorry i missed the replies, been out the office all day.
LOL, I can't be havin' balls touching can i Markk........sounds like a long night in with Elton John.
But glad i asked. I was told it should be ok, but i had my suspicions. I really can't be leaving it to chance. Pointless agro when it obviously will die on me when i beast it.
Cheers Jeff, i'll ring em. I need a rapid turnaround on this box. I'll see what they say.
Lol, nail in the coffin. Nice one Tabetha. Looks like rebuild time. I can hear my battered wife of a wallet starting to sob already.
Be reet!
LOL, I can't be havin' balls touching can i Markk........sounds like a long night in with Elton John.
But glad i asked. I was told it should be ok, but i had my suspicions. I really can't be leaving it to chance. Pointless agro when it obviously will die on me when i beast it.
Cheers Jeff, i'll ring em. I need a rapid turnaround on this box. I'll see what they say.
Lol, nail in the coffin. Nice one Tabetha. Looks like rebuild time. I can hear my battered wife of a wallet starting to sob already.
Be reet!
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