R4N SS

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Guys,

I need to tow my car to a friends house so i can get it washed but what is the law on towing a vehicle if it doesnt have any mot, tax or insurance.

The tow car is completely legal.

whats the law on this?

issysdad

I think it's still illegal mate.

I remember watching a traffic cops style show and I'm sure they nicked a guy for doing just that. Although it's not being driven under it's own power, it's still not in a roadworthy condition and they deem towing to be still on the road. Their arguement was if the tow rope/ bar came loose and the towed car hit a pedestrian/other vehicle, how would a claim be settled if there was no insurance.

Safest bet's a trailer mate.

Spiky

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you cant

you need all 4 wheels off the ground

cossie71

Tax m.o.t and insurance to use on public road!! Regardless of towing etc

R4N SS

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im only going less than half a mile max so dont really wanna shell out on trailoring

what a ball ache?

Im sure loads of people have done it but has anyone been caught and if so what did they say?

On another note - if i got insurance would it be legal then?

R4N SS

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car wont be getting mot'd or taxed for a while yet as im still working on it but if i got insurance - can i legally tow it then

issysdad

Sorry mate, out of luck again.

The only way you'd get away with that is if the car was booked in for an MOT and you were travelling there.

Fiddy

Wasnt there a thread on here not long ago about a lad who was towing his mates car with no mot or insurance, and he hit a parked car. how did that turn out ?

R4N SS

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he hit a off duty copper i think and the copper said he will tell his insurance someone done a hit and run

clarke5700 i think it was.

so if i get insurance can i tow it?

issysdad

Only if it's on it's way to a pre-booked MOT appointment.

Daveyboy

if its only going for a wash, cant you get a valeter to come to you?

R4N SS

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so i get insurance yet cannot tow - only to get an mot but surely if im towing a car it wont pass the mot

phil_rs

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Just go for it if it's only half a mile away.

*awaits the PF police!!

fiend

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I was going to say the same, and get someone to drive behind the car so a police car can't do a check on the license plate... incase one pulls up behind you.

issysdad

I don't make these bloody laws!! It's a pain in the a$$ I know! I had the same dilemma a couple of years ago. I took the risk at the time, but personally with the amount of ANPR and trigger happy traffic cops I wouldn't risk it now!

R4N SS

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yes but my garage is right next to the copshop

im literally going up the road and back again

gonna try and get my mate to jump in my ashtray while im in the sierra being towed.

Although - someone please confirm...

if i get insurance can i legally tow the car? surely it doesnt need an mot as its being towed

R4N SS

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i may even risk it as its only a few hundred yards to be honest

Lloyd

it needs tax mot and insurance, they might take it off you if you get caught lol

R4N SS

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well i might just have to pop into the cop shop and ask them if they can escort me down the road im their nice neighbour lol

ProjectBobcat

why does it need to be washed so badly, cant he come to you?

R4N SS

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no water or electric at my garage and i dont really wanna pay someone silly money to clean it as they will take one look at it and double their price

plus i can wash it for free

R4N SS

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but the REAL reason to wash it is to get rid of all the spiders on the car - i cant stand them

H7 CYA

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I got off lucky had no insurance tax or mot towing my van with a brace, they gave me a Ł60 fine as they sympathized i was moving address and it was literally 2 miles down the road.

Could have been a whole lot worse.

tabetha

If you can use a towing dolly, with 2 wheels off the ground it becomes a trailer, as in it is "trailing" behind the tow car, and needs nothing as trailers don't need anything, if all four wheels on the ground needs the lot, unless as said pre-booked in at mot place.
tabetha

D.K.

Ask the cop shop if you can run a hose pipe off their water supply lol worth a try

R4N SS

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funnily enough i was joking about this to my mate yesterday

reckon they may do it if i say i will give them some money for a charity.

BM08

After hes asked(and been refused) the police escort?

D.K.

I didnt see that bit

R4N SS

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i dont think its worth me asking them for an escort - lol.

Rick

No good unless it's braked or being towed with something much heavier.

rsnissan

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put your po po stickers back on and you'll be fine

LukeDaisley

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get a mate with some trade plates mate then your just on a test drive.

Iain Mac

The big problem is that the government want your tax disc money. This is from
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring...cle/DG_4022059

What if you don’t tax or make a SORN

If you have not made a SORN (Statutory Off Road Notification) and your vehicle is not taxed, an automatic penalty of Ł80 will apply. Your vehicle could also be clamped and taken away from you.

There’s no way out
Your vehicle doesn’t need to be seen on the road for an offence to have been committed. The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) carries out a check of its records each month to identify untaxed vehicles. DVLA has the authority to carry out enforcement action against you using the information held on its records.
As well as this, DVLA works in partnership with the police and local authorities in operating wheelclamping schemes. Using Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) they identify, clamp and tow away untaxed vehicles.
Members of the public can also report an untaxed vehicle online or by calling the national untaxed vehicles telephone hotline.

What will happen if you don't make a SORN

If you don’t make a SORN or tax your vehicle you could be stopped by the police.
You’ll get an automatic penalty of Ł80, as well as paying for a new tax disc.
You could also get a County Court Judgment against you, and be fined a minimum of Ł1,000.
The maximum penalty for making a false SORN, when the vehicle is actually used or kept on a public road, is Ł5,000 and imprisonment.
Your vehicle could be clamped by one of DVLA's wheelclamping partners. You’ll need to pay to have your vehicle released as well as producing a valid tax disc or a surety fee if no disc is available. If you fail to pay, your vehicle will be impounded, incurring storage charges. If you don’t pay the release or storage fees, your vehicle could be crushed or sold.

vaughant

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There was a long thread on here regarding exactly this and it concluded the car must have all three,tax mot INS unless it's on a trailer hence all four wheels off the ground,the car he was towing was taxed and moted but no insurance.they were total wankers about it all,phoning back and forth trying to do him for it,totally prickish!!I'd take the chance of towing it tbh as if you drive it down you risk the chance of it breaking down,bumping someone else etc which is less likely if your towing.realistically if you get caught driving it you probably WILL be done over,whereas if towing you can probably plead innocence!!!

R4N SS

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the car dont drive so will have to be towed

totally forgot abotu declaring SORN again - better get onto that

cabrio zo

But it currently it CAN'T be towed (legally) as has been confirmed more than once in this thread!

Lots of people do lots of things that aren't entirely legal... is it worth the risk just to wash it? Get a car cover

Get an empty 20 litre drum (hell I'll even post you one!) fill it with warm water, take your filled drum and cleaning gear to the garage

das

the way to do it is insure the car when you want to move it at the time you book it in for a mot so if stopped your taking it for a mot but if you do get stopped you would have to take it for a mot.

cabrio zo

Is it worth the hassle of all that

R4N SS

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zo - i got a car cover but am not going to use if the car is covered in dirt as it will only scratch.

I did think about pre-booking it but if i get stopped i can hardly blag im going for an mot when the car is being towed

think i may just have to leave it as it is until i get the thing running.

das

thats what i had to do once to move a car to get some work done on it.

dont think i would do it just to wash it.