st220 ever featured in mag.?
13-06-2010, 09:38 PM
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Boring more like 
Maybe if they only did RWD car's and your kids if u have them, Play out and someone who isn't a driver loses control in the rain maybe then you'd see my point!
Most people cannot handle powerfull rwd cars so for the majority FWD is safe for everyone
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+ as said emission's is the main reason the mondeo never followed suit by been RWD,
The mighty cosworth as you say, Got slayed to shit by the nissan skyline ending the rain of there supremacy, There's better car's out there than a sierra
Maybe if they only did RWD car's and your kids if u have them, Play out and someone who isn't a driver loses control in the rain maybe then you'd see my point!Most people cannot handle powerfull rwd cars so for the majority FWD is safe for everyone
.+ as said emission's is the main reason the mondeo never followed suit by been RWD,
The mighty cosworth as you say, Got slayed to shit by the nissan skyline ending the rain of there supremacy, There's better car's out there than a sierra
The Mondeo was introduced with mondern technology of the time such as modern suspension designs and multi valve engines, it was FWD as all rivals were way before such as the Cavalier, and what seems sadly be the norm now. Thankfully Ford kept the Sierra RWD.
As you say each to there own but I prefer a RWD than FWD or 4x4.
Martin
13-06-2010, 09:56 PM
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Boring more like Maybe if they only did RWD car's and your kids if u have them, Play out and someone who isn't a driver loses control in the rain maybe then you'd see my point!
Most people cannot handle powerfull rwd cars so for the majority FWD is safe for everyone.
Maybe if they only did RWD car's and your kids if u have them, Play out and someone who isn't a driver loses control in the rain maybe then you'd see my point!Most people cannot handle powerfull rwd cars so for the majority FWD is safe for everyone
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+ as said emission's is the main reason the mondeo never followed suit by been RWD,
The mighty cosworth as you say, Got slayed to shit by the nissan skyline ending the rain of there supremacy, There's better car's out there than a sierra
13-06-2010, 10:03 PM
#44
Emissions have nothing to do with what wheels are driven, if that were the case I think BMW would of been out of business long ago, thats the sad thing if you want a RWD this is one of the few options left.
The main reason for FWD is they are cheaper and easier to produce and do have certain benefits such as in snow, but not for driving pleasure.
Martin
The main reason for FWD is they are cheaper and easier to produce and do have certain benefits such as in snow, but not for driving pleasure.
Martin
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13-06-2010, 10:49 PM
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when i worked for FF afew years ago i featured dan browns st220, was about 340bhp iirc and pretty rapid too. he gave the car to AP racing to develop a brake kit for it too.
was a very tidy car, and if i were in the position to buy a new car, i would deffo consider the mondeo st... diesel lol
was a very tidy car, and if i were in the position to buy a new car, i would deffo consider the mondeo st... diesel lol
14-06-2010, 06:46 AM
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so anyone got any opinions on what i should go for wheel wise? zito 168 (black) or the avanti in the link i put up on page 1?
i really think this car needs a lipped alloy but also i don´t want to end up with a chav/bling look. i want to make the car more purposful looking!
does anyone know if i can do a mk1 rsf brembo brake conversion and any rough prices i should expect for it?
also how about chips, bluefin, dreamscience or a custom map at a decent tuner, i´m close to pumaspeed for example.
i really think this car needs a lipped alloy but also i don´t want to end up with a chav/bling look. i want to make the car more purposful looking!
does anyone know if i can do a mk1 rsf brembo brake conversion and any rough prices i should expect for it?
also how about chips, bluefin, dreamscience or a custom map at a decent tuner, i´m close to pumaspeed for example.
14-06-2010, 07:27 AM
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We rarely feature them as very few are modified to feature standards. I think they're great cars, and there's definitely no anti-Mondeo bias at Fast Ford - I'm on my third, Jamie's got one, and Neil used to own one.
There is a 4x4 one being built, and we'll feature it as soon as it's done!
There is a 4x4 one being built, and we'll feature it as soon as it's done!
14-06-2010, 08:41 AM
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That could happen in any car tho! any how if that did happen the driver would well and truly need to be hung drawn and quartered and found wanting for driving like that in a built up area...
So just because a car is powerd by its rear wheels it wont meet the emissions?
You miss my point, i was referring to the Ford marquis, obviously there are better cars out there im not stuck in the 90's
So just because a car is powerd by its rear wheels it wont meet the emissions?
You miss my point, i was referring to the Ford marquis, obviously there are better cars out there im not stuck in the 90's
As i said not everyone can handle rwd just because you me and few other's can doesn't mean the "normal" drivers can,As for emssions surely a big HP loss been RWD is losing fuel as it's expending it trying to make the car go, Where as FWD don't have such a major issue as it's all FWD and not making a prop shaft half the lenght of the car do the work, (So using more fuel thus emission 's)
So for emission's fuel saving and basic all round goodness they did it FWD, As i also said the focus RS proves the point FWD can rape pretty much anything nowaday's,
14-06-2010, 10:59 AM
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I cant remember which mag, but remember one being featured about 2 or 3yrs ago. A black hatch, more styling and interior/ice mods than performance, but the one mod that I remember most was the dash, cut about and dials repositioned in the centre, looked factory but obviously wasn't.
14-06-2010, 09:09 PM
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when i worked for FF afew years ago i featured dan browns st220, was about 340bhp iirc and pretty rapid too. he gave the car to AP racing to develop a brake kit for it too.
was a very tidy car, and if i were in the position to buy a new car, i would deffo consider the mondeo st... diesel lol
was a very tidy car, and if i were in the position to buy a new car, i would deffo consider the mondeo st... diesel lol
14-06-2010, 09:38 PM
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I've never seen another MK3 ST that I've really liked with alternative rims, I think the standard ones suit it really well, think the Focus ST ones and aftermarket ones just tend to look wrong.
I love how this thread has to have a bit of RWD vs FWD going on. The ST220 is a fantastic car. I've driven one and it was brilliant. I bet in the twisties it would spank a 2WD Cossie into the weeds without any issue at all. You may prefer RWD, but FWD is not to be sniffed at these days I'm afraid. For modern cars, it's a far more sensible solution.
14-06-2010, 11:13 PM
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agree on the wheels, aftermarkets one with a to big variation from factory style just end up looking to "maxpower mag"
i´m gonna keep it as close as poss. but i have my eyes on something ive not seen on an st before, something a bit rare
i´m gonna keep it as close as poss. but i have my eyes on something ive not seen on an st before, something a bit rare
15-06-2010, 12:25 AM
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Love the ST220. Have only ever driven one once and it was a lovely car but the standard brakes were awful. If they are all like the one i drove the brakes would be the first thing that i uprated, definitely before any engine mods.
15-06-2010, 08:01 PM
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good car here from one of our members
http://forum.rs-mania.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32752
The actual feature in Performance Ford
http://forum.rs-mania.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32909
great car, great owner
as a quick taster for how it looks, here you go
http://forum.rs-mania.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32752
The actual feature in Performance Ford
http://forum.rs-mania.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=32909
great car, great owner
as a quick taster for how it looks, here you go
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15-06-2010, 09:49 PM
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Them pics are 4 Tiff,
Have This one put not a very good pic. Tbh i think diamond cut look better wen turning or wen its going dark.
Cheers matt!
I will take sum pics mate and will post them here!
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16-06-2010, 03:05 PM
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sorry i cant help with finding out if the zetec s fit the st but here is a link from where i was just looking for springs, i´ve pre selected mondeo so you just need to search for the 3.0 petrol option once you pick which springs.
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oweringsprings
http://www.europerformance.co.uk/pag...oweringsprings
16-06-2010, 03:06 PM
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i read that dan in fast ford had problems fitting uprated springs to his mondeo as he has self leveling rear dampers, does anyone know what the 220 comes with? will there be any problems or is it a straight swap?
16-06-2010, 07:25 PM
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H an r went streight on, if anyone wants mine im open to offers, planing on full suspension kit! Kw only ones who do it i think.
Aps mate are very expensive, about Ł2000 new. Got mine second hand.
Aps mate are very expensive, about Ł2000 new. Got mine second hand.
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17-06-2010, 02:13 PM
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let me know how much u want for the springs mate if u get the full kit.
if u ever decide to remove the ap´s then u know where i am. i can´t find any second hand anywhere.
if u ever decide to remove the ap´s then u know where i am. i can´t find any second hand anywhere.
17-06-2010, 10:10 PM
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Good thread 
got me thinking off to scrappy now with shopping list mondeo with blown eng,wrecked noble and 4x4 jag suspension and box new rs500 wheels
got me thinking off to scrappy now with shopping list mondeo with blown eng,wrecked noble and 4x4 jag suspension and box new rs500 wheels
17-06-2010, 10:12 PM
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I loved my st220 had it from new 2002 then px for facelifted model couple years later i see lack of mag features as major bonus
ps Noble engine and Ford ST220 engine have very different internal specs not really comparable at all
ps Noble engine and Ford ST220 engine have very different internal specs not really comparable at all
17-06-2010, 10:18 PM
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Only diffrences are this!
-Shorter steel rods.
-forged pistons on sum!
-drilled crank for spray bottom of pistons with oil.
-Coil per cylinder
-Low power nobles have cam timing retarded 1 tooth.
(prob missed somthing)
Thats the basic diffrences. roush and john nobles built most engines.
-Shorter steel rods.
-forged pistons on sum!
-drilled crank for spray bottom of pistons with oil.
-Coil per cylinder
-Low power nobles have cam timing retarded 1 tooth.
(prob missed somthing)
Thats the basic diffrences. roush and john nobles built most engines.
17-06-2010, 10:40 PM
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I remember from open day at noble many years ago they had both engines side by side stripped possibly because in the early days they got a lot of flak for using a ford engine and v6 one at that!