Spiky

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just looking for a price for making up an exhaust manifold like this?

Spiky

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BTTT

that one above is about £900-£1000

Rsmat

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i bet thats exspensive whats it off??

Spiky

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thats for my gti6 engine

GaryHurn

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wont get much chnage from 1k i wouldnt have thought..... ooops didint read the above sorry

Rsmat

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i have similar item on my 106...if all the pieces was there i know someone who could weld it together.

wirralphil

zetecboostboy522 or what ever his user name is might be able to make it, seems to do other exhaust/fab work gong by his posts.

NEIL A

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Is that Davie, Euans mates manifold ?
What sort of power did his 205 end up making , as it had loads of nice bits going into it.

SS1

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I remember stavros manifold for his old GTR

That was a work of art

ive got pics but not on this pc

JonnyBravo

As lovely as it was and the Rips work is we had alook at the R34 GTR at last years totb that manifold had cracks starting all over it, don't assume because it looks the bollocks it is the bollocks.

Race manifold off Simpson is approx 1k iirc, BTB do good manifolds, if your looking for big numbers your best bet is to get a copy made of one you know has made the numbers or find a x works one...if they exist

JonnyBravo

Ah were talking turbo manifolds, in that case there are plenty of people who can make them, prices are between £600-£2000 though.

Who made that manifold, its not a Nortech one is it looking at the welds

Spiky

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that is a DP manifold

well, i need to think agout this,

a cheap option is to fit the 8v turbo, from various pugs and citreon, put a t3 flowed head and management and have 240bhp and 220lbs torque.

but thats about the limit of the engine before expensive parts are needed,

JonnyBravo

Are you fed up with the tb's now then ?

Spiky

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nope, love them

but i want more power

and NA power isnt cheap

JonnyBravo

Fair point !

Are you going to sell the trb's to fund the turbo conversion ? I'm guessing your talking a low boost high comp conversion to keep costs down ?

Difficulty is ideally your going to need a good manifold, some cams and headwork to make your engine a bit more lively but I bet realistically the turbo conversion will run to the same sort of costs, it will just give more power

johnandhissaffy

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i could get that made for not very much money and the fella i know who does it will do mine for next to nothing all he'll need is the proper item then he'll make a exact replica useing the same metals and that i know hes good coz he can makes custom manifolds for the v8s and v6s
but thats lots of money but you get alot for it lol about 30 bhp lol maybe

Spiky

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i have a few options.

cheapest and easiest is the 2.0l 8v turbo

already been offerent t3, flowed head and cam, so would see aorund 240 with th std 8v bottom end as it runs a 8:1 ratio as std

16v turbo, is 1k just for manifold


yeah sell the ITBS and fund the turbo

Ryan

1k, you telling me it takes a farbicator a week to make something like that?

jesus!

Spiky

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http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/prod..._stainless.php

add 225 euros for stainless

Chip

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Spikey, sell the ITBs and buy a supercharger kit, will still work with your existing exhaust manifold etc then.
You can even run it on your standard engine initially if you keep the boost down.

Chip

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couple of hundred in parts, couple of hundred you are paying for them to have worked out the design, the other half for actually making it, which is easily a couple of days work.

Spiky

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i would need another 1k or a touch more for a second hand low boost SC kit,

or another 2k for a new setup


i can turbo it to 240 bhp for about the same or maybe less than the money i get back from itbs

JonnyBravo

Not a week but there is a lot of time in doing them and obviously the cost of the materials in the first place.

How much do Primary Design charge for one or Simpson for that matter !

Chip

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Let me know if you need any mapping doing on it mate.

Could do most of it on the road and then take it down to mtec to finish off the ignition on their rollers.

Well worth getting an EGT sensor if you are running high comp and a turbo by the way!

JonnyBravo

What are the tb's worth though ? without an ecu as I presume you will need to keep that unless your swapping to the 8v turbo engine.

From experience I'd be suprised if the tb's would cover the cost as they can't be worth much more than a grand and thats not a lot of money to do a conversion on considering all the other bits you will end up needing.

Ryan

granted it if its a custom one off.

Spiky

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was going to ask if you wanted to map it for me
it's a 8:1 ration on the 8v turbo so not high comp
will have a modified t3 running around 19psi

i'm selling the ITB as full package, inc ecu, and hope to get around 1500'ish

i have several people who want my ITB setup, remember it's plug and go, all mapped ready

Chip

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Agreed, unless you can get a secondhand manifold cheap.

Is there any off another car that will fit spikey?

I got this one for my mrs clio for 90 quid brand new



http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!B%28t9Lmg!2k~$%28KGrHgoOKicEjlLmYvG8BKdwvc3Ubw~~_ 12.JPG

Chip

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or even just a small numbers one, anything not mass produced really can easily come to that sort of money if the person making it is good.

Spiky

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no, not the for 16v engine, they all have the turbo at the side of the head

Chip

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What ECU are you going to use on the new engine?

Matt has the Mtec ECU's up for 495+VAT at the moment, including it being mapped at his place, so I could come up and do you a road map to get it going, then you could take it down there and me and matt could finish it off between us on the rollers.

Chip

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Are you swapping to an 8v engine then? or just an 8v bottom end to lower the cr?
(sorry too busy to re-read the thread properly and work it out)

Spiky

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i know of a 205 turbo , so can just lift his conversion and plonk in mine.

not sure what ecu it has,

yeah seen that offer, depends how if the seller replies saying it's still for sale

Spiky

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swapping to a 8v engine (full 8v engine)

8v engine as std is 8:1

JonnyBravo

Thats strong money so thats a bit more than I expected you would of had to play with tbh.

The good thing with going to the 8v is it keeps the car to cheap to maintain, if you blew an engine its no big deal, if you blow up a heavily tuned NA GTi6 engine you will obviously have quite a lot of money to find to replicate it.

Either way the car is fast now so its going to be better

Chip

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ah if you have a total setup available it makes sense to go with that.

I bet it will be yet another fucking emerald knowing my luck

Chip

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Xantia turbo lump?

Cool, 8v is fine for making 120bhp per litre, thats nothing.

Spiky

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yeah,

well it's around 195-200 and will go up to aroudn 230-240

without actually spending anything (or very lettle if i do)

Spiky

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99% sure it's not,

yeah that lump

Chip

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Should work well then.

I cant map it if its on standard ECU still though.