Mike Kerbey

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I have been ringing your workshop for the last three days and there has been no answer on any extension numbers. I have also sent you a couple of PMs but still no replys. Im in desperate need of help on an L8 ecu and wasted spark conversion on my 2wd cossie!

Any one else contacted him over the last few days?

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Whats the problem Mike ?

carlo

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I phoned today & got the workshop first time

carlo

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To ad it was motorsport developments sales & got james

KSA-Cossie

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E mail always works for me.

dannyblackpool

Stu is MAD Busy... with Blackpool being at Wembley he was down on staff and had a few cars in for mapping that were non runners........

Graceland

I got thru to him on Saturday - In person. Infact, he met me off my train at Blackpool with a coffee for me - Now that is service

Mike Kerbey

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Problem is that I have just converted from L6 to L8 with wasted spark conversion. Now I bought the L8 off ebay with the wasted driver installed and the chip is programmed for closed loop and siemens 83 injectors. Im using these injectors but I havent got a lambda fitted at the moment. I rang MSD to check if it would run ok without the lambda and they said it would. Fair enough I thought and purchased a wasted spark loom off them. I fitted it all and it wont start, I have spark and fuel but it wont run. To me it sounds like the timing is miles out. It was running fine with the L6. Every few seconds while cranking you can hear it fire on one and stalls the starter motor. Like its firing whilst half way through a compression stroke.
Im using the 2wd tps with the wires swapped over and as far as I can find out, this would atleast get me up and running.
It also sparks when you first click the ignition, is this normal as I dont think its right.

God help me lol

Ryan

swap leads 1&4 with 2&3, sounds like timing is 180 degree's out.

Mike Kerbey

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That is what I thought and have tried that, but it popped off my injectors as I didnt have the fuel rail bolted down! Stupid of me i know! So i didnt think that was correct either!

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Ryan is right but just to clarify .....

Swap lead 1 with lead 2, swap lead 3 with lead 4

Ryan

yeah sorry should have been more specific, cheers simon.

cossie4i+

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I still have the Lamda sensor MSD supplied when i had closed loop, only done about 1500 miles max

Steve

Mike Kerbey

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FUCK ME, its was 180 out. Cant fucking believe it, I tried that yesterday! Cheers for all your help!

Are you looking to sell the lambda cossie4i?

cossie4i+

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Great news its running by the sound of things

Yes, its of no use to me now

Steve

James @ M Developments.

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All we can say to people trying to get through to us is keep trying,

We do realise there is an issue here, we are so busy we cant get all the calls.

Mike Kerbey

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I understand that James, Just I tried 3 days in a row a few times each day and nothing and was starting to get abit pissed that I could get my car started, its all good in the hood now though. Thank!

joffy

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is this a common problem when swapping between L6 and L8??

Gary F

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I rang and left messages on the answer machine, no one got back to me....

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No its not a common problem that is ECU specific.


Its partly an issue when using a mixture of components from different sources and the fact when I initially designed it, I got the 2 pins on the ecu reversed ..LOL

Ryan

generally no, early msd/secs boards ran like this, but were changed after about 8-12 months from launch i believe, simon will clarify.

now all new boards run same as pectel setup, 180 degress out.

Ryan

ahh there we go.

cossie4i+

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Don't start on MSD, they are the GODS

Steve

James @ M Developments.

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whatever issue you have had with this company has no reflection on my time here, i work my ass off to keep customers happy.

I really pisses me off reading comments like this tbh

i would advise you grow up.

cossie4i+

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I can't get much bigger James lol

Nothing personal as you well know

Steve

James @ M Developments.

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well i take my job very seriously, and very personally.

Mike Kerbey

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The wasted spark board in my ecu is version 1. I Take it this would be why its 180 degrees out if the loom if for a later version. Am I correct?

I would also like to say that I have used MSD for parts a few times before and have never had problems, they've even got me out the shit by posting stuff super duper quick!

Gary F

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James no digs at you mate, maybe if you worked there at the time my engine wouldn't be scrap

Ryan

only simon/msd could answer that about the version of the board, but would certainly seem correct.

James @ M Developments.

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The version 1 board is quite old

Stu @ M Developments

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Sorry guys, we are busier than we have ever been and simply cannot keep up with all the phones, cars and mail order anymore and are all working 12hrs a day at least to keep up. We have grown in turnover to well over double what we have done any other year and an unfortunate side effect of that is all three phone lines are now constantly busy. To this end we are going to build another office here and take on a 5th member of staff to deal with the growing business and take some strain off us but finding teh right applicant will take some time.

Appologies for those of you struggling to get through, please perservere or, if short of time, drop me an e-mail as that is still at max efficiency as I do these at home and on my mobile too.

Sorry guys, I know you all have a choice of where to spend your money and I thank you for your patience and your custom, its much appreciated.

Big G

On a side note glad to hear that business is good and your avoiding the trend of struggling, keep up the good work and good luck for the future

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Stu, why not hire an office "gopher".

It doesnt take much knowledge to take messages and make cuppa's plus they would be cheap

Eagle

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not much of a job aplication there simon ....

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Pete,

LOL, I have no need of a job thanks as I work for another tuning company now.
I was just making a suggestion that could find a quick solution to Stu's immediate problem.

turbo_3dr_tommy

even the scrap man didnt want that engine

James @ M Developments.

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funily enough, our work report states very similar facts.

but nobody would know that would they

danneth

can i be nosey and ask who??

JamesH

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I need a serious convo with someone from MSD soon, so maybe I'll wait until you're quieter!

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Yes you can ask