Cameron Now PM
#81
You talk alot of sense warren and i kinda agree with lots of wot you have said.
aswell as lazy people there are plenty of people that think they deserve better jobs and will not start from the bottom and work there way up- thats a big problem for a lot of youngsters imo.
why should i bother working for that much?? its called progression as you can then gain experience and get better jobs etc etc.
Uni is not a ticket into a high paid job it just the start to give you a base- i think if it was looked into, the amount of well qualified people choosing to stay on the doll would be quite shocking!
its time to show them there not clever so maybe a harder line like the conservatives will take will be better, fingers crossed the co-alition helps stopping the torys go to far with it.
aswell as lazy people there are plenty of people that think they deserve better jobs and will not start from the bottom and work there way up- thats a big problem for a lot of youngsters imo.
why should i bother working for that much?? its called progression as you can then gain experience and get better jobs etc etc.
Uni is not a ticket into a high paid job it just the start to give you a base- i think if it was looked into, the amount of well qualified people choosing to stay on the doll would be quite shocking!
its time to show them there not clever so maybe a harder line like the conservatives will take will be better, fingers crossed the co-alition helps stopping the torys go to far with it.
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I do love this. I may have said it before, but I do love the way some people are judging him just because he went to Eaton.
Who the fuck cares? What an outdated and ridiculous arguement
If he has good ideas and passion for the job, give them a chance. I don't give a toss where they went to school, I just want someone who is going to sort the mess out.
I also agree with a lot of what Warren has said. Many people seem to think they have a right to a big tv/flash car etc etc and that is just wrong. Sadly the Labour government has let that culture flourish and we've got a lot of people that think they can have everything for nothing. Fingers crossed a lot of these scroungers will get caught out now anyway.
Who the fuck cares? What an outdated and ridiculous arguement
If he has good ideas and passion for the job, give them a chance. I don't give a toss where they went to school, I just want someone who is going to sort the mess out.
I also agree with a lot of what Warren has said. Many people seem to think they have a right to a big tv/flash car etc etc and that is just wrong. Sadly the Labour government has let that culture flourish and we've got a lot of people that think they can have everything for nothing. Fingers crossed a lot of these scroungers will get caught out now anyway.
#83
Bollocks
Why should we have to live like scrubbers, i had a good life under Labour no scrimping for stuff at all.
I can't understand what the argument was with Labour, stealth tax - so what the Tory's will have their own.
For those that think this country will be better under this twat how very mistaken they are.
In fact i would like to hear one good thing that will happen in the next 12 months.
Why should we have to live like scrubbers, i had a good life under Labour no scrimping for stuff at all.
I can't understand what the argument was with Labour, stealth tax - so what the Tory's will have their own.
For those that think this country will be better under this twat how very mistaken they are.
In fact i would like to hear one good thing that will happen in the next 12 months.
Any i agree with massivewangers, why an earth would you judge some one badly because they have a good education and take time to speak properly? absolutely shite argument to have.
#85
I was talking to one of the elected toffs on saturday night, brother-in-laws wedding(who is a life long tory memeber and used to work for them), The guy was so out of touch it was unreal, It was a wedding of toffs her is me taking the piss doing my toff impression lol
#88
#91
the one thing that makes me think that cameron may actually help do some good is the man himself, he has two children in comprehensive schools so cutting education would affect them, he has a 3rd on the way so cutting the nhs will affect him there, he also had a disabled child who died, so he has first hand experiance of whats needed with the care system.
i know i'd rather have someone whos had first hand experiance with these things calling the shots then someone who hasnt..
i know i'd rather have someone whos had first hand experiance with these things calling the shots then someone who hasnt..
#93
I think there are some very very stupid people on this thread.
Two points that keep recurring on here, and my views; (like them or not)
-Bailout of the banks, and people that are critising it, i'd just like to point out the obvious, A) It would've happened anyway and would've been worse under a tory government, B) IF the Labour government hadn't stepped in and bailed them out, tens of thousands of people would've lost their jobs and homes overnight and the country would've been in absolute chaos so it's a no brainer.
-Do you HONESTLY think that the consevatives will reduce the deficit and not increase taxes and decrease spending especially with tax breaks for married couples and those earning under £10k/year so the rest of us will have to make up the difference, so that'll effect the rest of us, it doesn't add up, you are a moron.
Oh and anyone who likes to moan about how shit the NHS is, well you can expect it to get worse.
And additionally, child tax credits and benefits, not that I condone lazy bastards, but don't you think somewhere along the lines if parents are having to pay more than they are earning to send their kid to nursey/school they will give up work all together and live off the state???
Two points that keep recurring on here, and my views; (like them or not)
-Bailout of the banks, and people that are critising it, i'd just like to point out the obvious, A) It would've happened anyway and would've been worse under a tory government, B) IF the Labour government hadn't stepped in and bailed them out, tens of thousands of people would've lost their jobs and homes overnight and the country would've been in absolute chaos so it's a no brainer.
-Do you HONESTLY think that the consevatives will reduce the deficit and not increase taxes and decrease spending especially with tax breaks for married couples and those earning under £10k/year so the rest of us will have to make up the difference, so that'll effect the rest of us, it doesn't add up, you are a moron.
Oh and anyone who likes to moan about how shit the NHS is, well you can expect it to get worse.
And additionally, child tax credits and benefits, not that I condone lazy bastards, but don't you think somewhere along the lines if parents are having to pay more than they are earning to send their kid to nursey/school they will give up work all together and live off the state???
Last edited by rog; 12-05-2010 at 11:47 AM.
#94
#95
I think there are some very very stupid people on this thread.
Two points that keep recurring on here, and my views; (like them or not)
-Bailout of the banks, and people that are critising it, i'd just like to point out the obvious, A) It would've happened anyway and would've been worse under a tory government, B) IF the Labour government hadn't stepped in and bailed them out, tens of thousands of people would've lost their jobs and homes overnight and the country would've been in absolute chaos so it's a no brainer.
-Do you HONESTLY think that the consevatives will reduce the deficit and not increase taxes and decrease spending especially with tax breaks for married couples and those earning under £10k/year so the rest of us will have to make up the difference, so that'll effect the rest of us, it doesn't add up, you are a moron.
Oh and anyone who likes to moan about how shit the NHS is, well you can expect it to get worse.
And additionally, child tax credits and benefits, not that I condone lazy bastards, but don't you think somewhere along the lines if parents are having to pay more than they are earning to send their kid to nursey/school they will give up work all together and live off the state???
Two points that keep recurring on here, and my views; (like them or not)
-Bailout of the banks, and people that are critising it, i'd just like to point out the obvious, A) It would've happened anyway and would've been worse under a tory government, B) IF the Labour government hadn't stepped in and bailed them out, tens of thousands of people would've lost their jobs and homes overnight and the country would've been in absolute chaos so it's a no brainer.
-Do you HONESTLY think that the consevatives will reduce the deficit and not increase taxes and decrease spending especially with tax breaks for married couples and those earning under £10k/year so the rest of us will have to make up the difference, so that'll effect the rest of us, it doesn't add up, you are a moron.
Oh and anyone who likes to moan about how shit the NHS is, well you can expect it to get worse.
And additionally, child tax credits and benefits, not that I condone lazy bastards, but don't you think somewhere along the lines if parents are having to pay more than they are earning to send their kid to nursey/school they will give up work all together and live off the state???
#96
To many peaple earning a good living from not working or by having kids its every couples right to have kids but pay for the first one and if you choose to have more fund it yourself im going to ge blasted for this but i think i didnt fuck for them i shouldnt pay for them.
#97
I think that all women should have eggs extracted and stored and then be sterlised by law and should have to apply to for a license to get an egg back if they want to get pregnant, and to get the license, you first prove you can afford the thing when it arrives!
Last edited by Chip; 12-05-2010 at 03:09 PM.
#98
FAR too much money given to support families with kids that they could never afford when they had them, its one thing falling on hard times and needing help, its another to start a familing you KNOW you cant afford to bring up
I think that all women should have eggs extracted and stored and then be sterlised by law and should have to apply to for a license to get an egg back if they want to get pregnant, and to get the license, you first prove you can afford the thing when it arrives!
I think that all women should have eggs extracted and stored and then be sterlised by law and should have to apply to for a license to get an egg back if they want to get pregnant, and to get the license, you first prove you can afford the thing when it arrives!
#100
The thing is its not just the peaple making a living from having kids that gets me i live in an ex mining area and peaple here hate the tories because they closed the pits well it was cheaper to get coal from abroad i see it like this if you can get a loaf of bread from asda for £1 but in tesco the same loaf is £1.50 your going to buy it from asda same with the coal (wasnt it labour that wanted to close most of the pits in yorkshire during the 1960s)
#101
PMSL ... Communist China all over again then ..
So get rid of Civial servant jobs, Allot of Jobcentre jobs going .. Put them on the dole (They will then become SCUM)
Then you have more people needing the jobcentre services and there will be a staff shortage
Or totally remove benefits for Job seekers, Single mums etc etc .. While you flood the market with unemployed people . Makes sence so far.
You save a shit load of money but then theres the Social Effects .. People with no job + no money are gonna go out and rob ...
Allot of genunie people will get caught out ..
You cannot blame the CON's for putting people out of work .. Cheaper to pay them £65 a week rarther than a Civil servant wage .. After all we have to show the rest of the world we care about other countrys .. While hiding the fact we have one of the highest child povety rates in the developed world ..
Phew .. Glad we sorted that out ..
P.S Chip: Whats the punishment for getting pregnant illegally? Two bullets in the back of the head?
So get rid of Civial servant jobs, Allot of Jobcentre jobs going .. Put them on the dole (They will then become SCUM)
Then you have more people needing the jobcentre services and there will be a staff shortage
Or totally remove benefits for Job seekers, Single mums etc etc .. While you flood the market with unemployed people . Makes sence so far.
You save a shit load of money but then theres the Social Effects .. People with no job + no money are gonna go out and rob ...
Allot of genunie people will get caught out ..
You cannot blame the CON's for putting people out of work .. Cheaper to pay them £65 a week rarther than a Civil servant wage .. After all we have to show the rest of the world we care about other countrys .. While hiding the fact we have one of the highest child povety rates in the developed world ..
Phew .. Glad we sorted that out ..
P.S Chip: Whats the punishment for getting pregnant illegally? Two bullets in the back of the head?
#103
I refer to my previous point above re tax credits, you tell me that making child care more expensive won't make more people end up on the dole.
Also on another hilarious note, Tories are to go ahead with the 1p increase in the NI, a policy which they venemously defended against only a few weeks ago when Labour proposed it, who can you trust...
Also on another hilarious note, Tories are to go ahead with the 1p increase in the NI, a policy which they venemously defended against only a few weeks ago when Labour proposed it, who can you trust...
#104
Got to admit what really takes the piss as we are in the shit at home but the first thing all parties pledge is not to cut foreign aid, we have got to pretend we are still a big power in the world when really we are fuck all, all politicians should be fucking shot, bring on the revolution, ill line up to shoot that cunt clegg first, lost seats but in power what a joke
#105
#106
Thats just it cant trust any of them we all know tax is going to go up because of the state the countrys in remind me whos been running the country for the last 13 or so years not saying the torie lib dem bunch will do any better but time will tell.
#107
Come on mate get with the plan they are all reformed now and are to be trusted now we are in cameron and cleggs big society
#110
So how would you do this then? Wait until the 16th Birthday and then have them sterilized?
Would this be for EVERY woman in the country?
Actually you would solve problems getting to this point as all known Human Right laws would have to be removed ..
#111
Yeah very Fair person removing the only reason why Humans Exist.
So how would you do this then? Wait until the 16th Birthday and then have them sterilized?
Would this be for EVERY woman in the country?
Actually you would solve problems getting to this point as all known Human Right laws would have to be removed ..
So how would you do this then? Wait until the 16th Birthday and then have them sterilized?
Would this be for EVERY woman in the country?
Actually you would solve problems getting to this point as all known Human Right laws would have to be removed ..
Just adopt the Kosman approach, she'll never get pregnant then....
#112
I think there was a touch of humour in Chip's post.
We shouldn't have to pay for these slags that have 10 kids just for the hell of it though. They need to take some responsibility, but sadly they're probably just too thick. Machine gun fire is the answer in my opinion.
We shouldn't have to pay for these slags that have 10 kids just for the hell of it though. They need to take some responsibility, but sadly they're probably just too thick. Machine gun fire is the answer in my opinion.
#113
I say we round up all the nice ones and force them to do lapdances in your office all day long, on demand. The ugly ones we can send to eastern Europe and Sweden and exchange them for better looking ones.
#115
And anyone who got pregnant before then, the father would by default have broken the law, so would be tracked down by his DNA and held financially accountable, and it wouldnt be a problem if he was out of work, as he would be put to work in a labour camp as part of his prison term anyway.
Would this be for EVERY woman in the country?
Actually you would solve problems getting to this point as all known Human Right laws would have to be removed ..
#116
#117
People really need to stop referring to the thatcher days. Get over the bitterness.
A full coalition as it now stands was the only viable option available. Forming a minoity governement was never a good idea. Every policy and decision having to be voted on within parliament and opposed just because it didnt suit the opposing party. What good is that.
LabLib coalition - Labour had their chance to try and form one. Didnt do a good enough job of it did they. Simple really.
ConLib or CamClegg as i have now heard it reffered too The best outcome for this country as it now stands. Top of the bill - sorting out the huge debt this country is in. £6bn saving this year. Public sector cuts, pay freezes. I work for the NHS and i may have a pay freeze. Never mind i will just live to my means like i do at the moment. £10k earnings before you get taxed. ID cards scrapped saving £millions. The list goes on with im sure more to follow. Political and electoral reform. Again a GOOD thing to come out of this.
People should give this a chance. The country has spoken - no party won a majority, so the next best thing -2 party's coming together, picking the best things out of each manifesto.
It is going to get tougher living in this country but whoever is in power would have too make the unpopular decisions. Have to ask yourself why a new government is going to have to make such hard financial decisions. Couldn't possible be anything to do with Labour could it, giving free reign to the banks, bonuses and then watching it all collpase around our arse. Brown did well holding it together but should never had let it get to that stage in the 1st place imo!
Longterm forward planning is what this country needs and hopefully the new government can achieve this.
A full coalition as it now stands was the only viable option available. Forming a minoity governement was never a good idea. Every policy and decision having to be voted on within parliament and opposed just because it didnt suit the opposing party. What good is that.
LabLib coalition - Labour had their chance to try and form one. Didnt do a good enough job of it did they. Simple really.
ConLib or CamClegg as i have now heard it reffered too The best outcome for this country as it now stands. Top of the bill - sorting out the huge debt this country is in. £6bn saving this year. Public sector cuts, pay freezes. I work for the NHS and i may have a pay freeze. Never mind i will just live to my means like i do at the moment. £10k earnings before you get taxed. ID cards scrapped saving £millions. The list goes on with im sure more to follow. Political and electoral reform. Again a GOOD thing to come out of this.
People should give this a chance. The country has spoken - no party won a majority, so the next best thing -2 party's coming together, picking the best things out of each manifesto.
It is going to get tougher living in this country but whoever is in power would have too make the unpopular decisions. Have to ask yourself why a new government is going to have to make such hard financial decisions. Couldn't possible be anything to do with Labour could it, giving free reign to the banks, bonuses and then watching it all collpase around our arse. Brown did well holding it together but should never had let it get to that stage in the 1st place imo!
Longterm forward planning is what this country needs and hopefully the new government can achieve this.
#118
Yep, with NO charge to the girl herself, it would be a 16th birthday present from the government.
And anyone who got pregnant before then, the father would by default have broken the law, so would be tracked down by his DNA and held financially accountable, and it wouldnt be a problem if he was out of work, as he would be put to work in a labour camp as part of his prison term anyway.
Yes of course
I wouldnt get rid of all human rights laws, just the annoying ones.
And anyone who got pregnant before then, the father would by default have broken the law, so would be tracked down by his DNA and held financially accountable, and it wouldnt be a problem if he was out of work, as he would be put to work in a labour camp as part of his prison term anyway.
Yes of course
I wouldnt get rid of all human rights laws, just the annoying ones.
Yeah but what If she got Preggy on Holiday or the farther pisses off to another Country. Like Somalia or Brazil?
Would you sideline funds to help or would you have the child taken away at Birth and handed over to the millitary? (Like Universal Soldiers)
#119
Got to agree with that, and i DO agree with cameron on his 'if you can work then you should and if you CANT then we will help you'.
#120
So not as much of a bellend as you 1st thought then. I know you or your family were personally fucked throughout the Thatcher years but try and give this a chance. You never know Lee, none of us do mate