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Old 09-05-2010, 06:34 PM
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if its the 1.6 zetec se, then 150 bhp is easy for less than £1500, ( not bad a 50% increase in power on a n/asp engine!! ), if its the 1.6 zetec-e which i think it is, its shit and virtually untuneable. Transplant the 2.0 zetec-e and turbo it
Old 09-05-2010, 06:36 PM
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i think you should sell it mate and get something more suited to you something like this......
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
if its the 1.6 zetec se, then 150 bhp is easy for less than £1500
Good luck with that!
Old 09-05-2010, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
if its the 1.6 zetec se, then 150 bhp is easy for less than £1500
No its not im afraid, you can get a set of cams, full exhaust and pre-mapped chip for less than 1500, but as has been proven time and time again that realistically only gets you 130-140bhp at the most. Add a set of throttle bodies and aftermarket ecu to that then yes you be around the 150bhp mark but not for less than 1500.
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
Good luck with that!

why ?
Old 09-05-2010, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rathbone
why ?
Why? Jimbo. has pretty much just explained why...
Old 09-05-2010, 07:20 PM
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wot U wonna doo iz pt deese n da intke manifold.



Mak it breeve beter an alll dat.
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
Good luck with that!

Piece of piss

Cams, Exhaust and manifold and a map. Done it about 4 times. You can go the whole hog and fit megasquirt and bodies if you want more.

For those who've tried and failed at around the 140 mark......i'd be asking the tuner/mapper about the cam timing on the exhaust cam.

www.shawspeed.com this guy (john) knows pretty much all there is to know about these.
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
Piece of piss

Cams, Exhaust and manifold and a map. Done it about 4 times. You can go the whole hog and fit megasquirt and bodies if you want more.

For those who've tried and failed at around the 140 mark......i'd be asking the tuner/mapper about the cam timing on the exhaust cam.

www.shawspeed.com this guy (john) knows pretty much all there is to know about these.
What inlet you referring to fella? Yes Shawspeed have a great reputation and their SS4's are very popular, but i've yet to see a graph to prove that 150bhp has been achieved with just cams, exhaust and a map. I know a live map is more benificial over a pre-mapped chip but even then fall short of the mark, have you got some graphs to show me?
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Originally Posted by Jimbo.
What inlet you referring to fella? Yes Shawspeed have a great reputation and their SS4's are very popular, but i've yet to see a graph to prove that 150bhp has been achieved with just cams, exhaust and a map. I know a live map is more benificial over a pre-mapped chip but even then fall short of the mark, have you got some graphs to show me?
Didnt mention an inlet? Standard Zetec-s plastic one is good enough for 150.

I meant exhaust manifold.........Piper is the best I tried for it on a fiesta, but thats not the only installation ( i live about 2 miles from westfield for instance ). No graphs to show on here.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo.
What inlet you referring to fella? Yes Shawspeed have a great reputation and their SS4's are very popular, but i've yet to see a graph to prove that 150bhp has been achieved with just cams, exhaust and a map. I know a live map is more benificial over a pre-mapped chip but even then fall short of the mark, have you got some graphs to show me?

Yep.

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Infact - it's funny really but it was the first one done on cams and MSD map!
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
Didnt mention an inlet? Standard Zetec-s plastic one is good enough for 150.

I meant exhaust manifold.........Piper is the best I tried for it on a fiesta, but thats not the only installation ( i live about 2 miles from westfield for instance ). No graphs to show on here.
Sorry, I assumed you meant inlet manifold and you'd already mentioned exhaust prior to that. I had a full piper decat on my old mk5 and that free'd it up alot, I still maintain that without the additions of tb's or the like you won't see a genuine 150bhp, but I like to be proven wrong
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Originally Posted by Jimbo.
Sorry, I assumed you meant inlet manifold and you'd already mentioned exhaust prior to that. I had a full piper decat on my old mk5 and that free'd it up alot, I still maintain that without the additions of tb's or the like you won't see a genuine 150bhp, but I like to be proven wrong
See Dans graph........I've told everyone for years, Dans a believer tho
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Originally Posted by It's Czech Mate
See Dans graph........I've told everyone for years, Dans a believer tho
Dan's done about 15 TB conversions and about 20-30 cam installs now
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Originally Posted by OldDan
Infact - it's funny really but it was the first one done on cams and MSD map!
Is that your car dan? Nice results if thats just cams and exhaust prior to the mapping, what rollers did it go on out of interest?
Old 09-05-2010, 07:48 PM
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You wanna yank on teh e-brake and get some drifting done in maccies car park blud, mad skillz. Me cousin Delroy does it all teh time in his Escort Sapphire and they give him free cheeseburgers.
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Originally Posted by Jimbo.
Is that your car dan? Nice results if thats just cams and exhaust prior to the mapping, what rollers did it go on out of interest?
Dastek. And it was a rolling road day, Fiesta ST ran 150 or so if that helps


Cams, exhaust and live map.
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And yeah was almost 4 years ago before I went onto bodies.
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Originally Posted by GTi-R23
You wanna yank on teh e-brake and get some drifting done in maccies car park blud, mad skillz. Me cousin Delroy does it all teh time in his Escort Sapphire and they give him free cheeseburgers.
syk bruv.
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Originally Posted by GTi-R23
You wanna yank on teh e-brake and get some drifting done in maccies car park blud, mad skillz. Me cousin Delroy does it all teh time in his Escort Sapphire and they give him free cheeseburgers.

Which maccies you use mate, am quite hungry, a free cheesy burger would be nice
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I have seen it on the internet (so it must be true) that the cams off the 1.8 are a straight swap with 10-15 bhp increase can any 1 verify? Though, to go faster you should stop granny shifting and start double clutching like you should.
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Originally Posted by OldDan
Dastek. And it was a rolling road day, Fiesta ST ran 150 or so if that helps


Cams, exhaust and live map.
Nice one

I seem to remember you had good results with your original setup, did you get it rolling roaded after the tb's and omex went on?
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Originally Posted by sirbuynsellalot
Though, to go faster you should stop granny shifting and start double clutching like you should.
I thought that only worked if you had a standalone fuel management system.
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Originally Posted by SiZT
I thought that only worked if you had a standalone fuel management system.
...as well as a Motec System Exhaust.


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need a sik spoiler to get all dat power down so u can rip up porkas wit mad skillz wen u get dat yamaha chip
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anyone else find it strange that the op seems to have not contributed to this thread for some time?
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but do you care? Im just reading for the replies lol
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Best mod would be to strip the interior out and improve the power to weight ratio and then live you life 10 seconds at a time!
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thanks for those links il maybe buy one of them chips, and i like ur dappy sig.
i havent replied for abit as all you keyboard warrior virgin ford boyzz are on some joke ting! and think my cars got a fan on da hood or sumit. what the fuck!
come down my endz and say all this to me an ma mates yeah ... batty boyz
and yamaha make that r1 that does 180mph so the enginzs got race pedigree init daft fuckers i just need to stage 3 it
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Originally Posted by wirralphil
wot U wonna doo iz pt deese n da intke manifold.



Mak it breeve beter an alll dat.
Ha Haaaaaaaaaa
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hahahaha keyboard warrior callin us out to his endz hahahahahahahahaha
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Tell ya what, how about one of those tune up switches i saw on ebay once, which was basically a cooker knob lol, i know this because our old cooker had the exact knobs lmao!!!!!

Anyone else remember seeing them, meant to add 20bhp at a twist of a knob lol!!
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Nearly as bad as Speedy being owned in the 1/18 models thread lol
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that speedy guy is talking some right balls on that 1/18th thread. lol
lmao at phatford what are you on about 'biggin up your endz' on a internet forum
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Originally Posted by phatford
come down my endz and say all this to me an ma mates yeah ... batty boyz
i read this as
'i want you to have sex with my arse and let my mates watch as there all..........batty boyz'

the answer being........... erm no mate your ok with your mates, cheers anyway


on another note, the 'kosman humps toilet duck' had me in tears, he gets everywhere and with no relevence at all, class
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The engine in an escort will be a zetec-e therefore nowt like the zetec-se which has the dynoplot above. If you want power, bin the 1600 and fit the 2000. The zetec-e 1600 has rally small valves and cant produce the power. If you did waste your time tuning it you may end up with 140bhp. Why bother when you can swap to a 2000 which has 130bhp as standard, then can be tuned?
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Originally Posted by SiZT
I thought that only worked if you had a standalone fuel management system.


LOL
that made me laugh lol.


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