gary fraser

mates just been offered a bluefin chip for his standard 03 plate st170 are they any good, and is it just a plug in and go or does it need set up on a rolling road.
cheers gary

rsfido_1989

has it been used, if so it wont work as they register to the car

gary fraser

ok cheers mate, what about dreamscience

Lambchop

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Yeah but you can fucking remove it and the handset has more than one life!!

Gary, plug and play mate. OBD port under the steering wheel. My frs has DS on it and is great. Stick it on and job done!

chrisalfie

Hes saying that it wasnt registerd to any car when he bought it

rsfido_1989

calm down big bollox, was half asleep wen i replied, you can trade them in, i personally looked at a 2nd hand unit and found no body that could unlock a used unit the only option was to use as a trade in but didnt seem to save me money. If its not been used then plug and play mate, i have bluefin on mine and am happy with the set up now.

gary fraser

cheers chop, demontweeks are sellin new bluefins for the st170 for Ł215 so think it would be better to buy a new 1 that is guarenteed to work rather than a used 1 that might not,

RichieST

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Handbags down chop!!

rsfido is right, once it is used it is locked to the car. It can be reset by Superchips, but for the cost of the reset and the cost of the second hand bluefin, you may as well buy a new one.

Dreamscience units have 5 lives. I've got that on my ST, its the bollocks

rsfido_1989

thanks rich, iv heard the dream science has 5 lives if i had the cash i would have got it but im happy with the bluefin.

gary fraser

whats the difference in price between the bluefin and dreamscience.

rsfido_1989

i was finding around 200 - 250 more for dreamscience

chrisalfie

So whats the difference in performance with dreamscience is it better and 5 lives means i can use on 5 cars ????? Tried to look on there web site but cant find the 170 there can you buy it anywhere else????????????

Ebonycossie4x4

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lol you're a right antagonistic C**t Of late arnt you.

You're posts are pure quality though.

love the come back, Calm down big bollocks!

Ebonycossie4x4

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realistically what change does it make to an ST170, is it even noticeable?

Sp3no

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I have had both. When i installed blue fin i could feel something was different, its was a little bit more responsive but that was it. Im on dreamscience now and you can definately feel there is more power there. I have had mine RR'd at 189bhp with a few other mods. You cannot get a dreamscience handset now as they stopped making them. Dream science now only offer a one shot map for the ST170 but it means you have to go to them to have it loaded onto your car. Best thing is to look out for a second hand dreamscience handset and send it back to dreamscience who will restore its lives

gary fraser

so the bluefin is not worth the Ł215 that demontweeks want for it.

rsfido_1989

can you not have a test drive in a car with one, where you from bud?

white2lsr

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Both a waste of money IMO, i did a bit of asking about when i was thinking about getting on or the other. Seems you will be lucky to see 5bhp once fitted.

Ebonycossie4x4

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this is what i thought.

white2lsr

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You would notice more of a difference if you cleaned the car out of rubbish etc. and put a panel air filter in the standard air box.

DanW@FastFord

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There's rarely much to be had by OBD tuning an N/A car. You'd be better off modifying it (filter, exhaust etc) and then getting a map specifically for your car that makes the most of the mods you've got.