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Old 25-04-2010 | 09:52 PM
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i can see my mistake here it was,ent straight line speed we where going through a lot of bends so maybe this is why i kept up ? my m8s faszer 1000 he got that bike because the handle bars are higher so are easey on the wrists he said he,s had a second stage setup done,
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
I had a run against a bike the other week there, was white, blue and red (a pal suggested a CBR?), he turned in the road to follow me down to the roundabout leading onto a dual carriageway.. he was two-up and from about 40mph to the end of my speedo I pulled about 8 or 9 car lengths on him before I gave up and slowed down.

That was in a c340bhp Impreza Turbo, so your story of keeping a Ninja6 honest in a 220bhp Mondeo really does sound ridiculous buddy.


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so the bike was 2 up and you pulled away?

if so im not surprised as he was thinking about his pillion

but a 600 would keep with a 360bhp cossie as i had ago against my mates cbr 600, rolling and there was nothing in it
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tell me then xr4x4 would a 600 be quicker through country lanes with an average rider than a st220 or was,ent he trying
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Originally Posted by rsturbo27
how did the spastic get caught steeling a car... his dna was all over the windows

Oh the irony of someone with the worst spelling calling another person a spastic and talking like they understand "dna"
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i quick well sorted car will be quicker through tight twisty A roads like the buttertubs pass for example, but on a straight there isnt much that can match a bike. power to weight ratio's my freind :/
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
the bike wasnt fukt, he just didnt want to waste his time going against a mondeo

st220 would have noc hance against a 400 let a lone a 600cc bike
100% correct, ive only had my gixxer 600 a week and the amount of silly boys that want to play in their wank motors is unreal I dont even bother with them
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Originally Posted by rsturbo27
tell me then xr4x4 would a 600 be quicker through country lanes with an average rider than a st220 or was,ent he trying
mate honestly an aprilia rs250 would be quicker, its a mondeo ffs
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
mate honestly an aprilia rs250 would be quicker, its a mondeo ffs
the aprillia is a stupidly quick steering bike it would give a lot of quicker cars a spanking and probably a zxr6 too.
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
i quick well sorted car will be quicker through tight twisty A roads like the buttertubs pass for example, but on a straight there isnt much that can match a bike. power to weight ratio's my freind :/
tell that to the heffner performance boys out in the US lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcbqoBBRP78
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These " i pissed all over a biker " threads are priceless


WTF is a second stage tune on a Fazer then ???

Been a biker for more years than i care to remember and have never heard of this !!



Even an old ZX6 will do 0-60 in about 4 seconds and top out around 160ish, you reckon thats on par with your St220 do you !!!

I've had an St220 and while they are a fairly quick car they wont even get close to a 600 being ridden to anywhere near its full capabilities !!!
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Originally Posted by rsturbo27
shut up
Its even more strange that you ask how a spastic got caught stealing a car then you go on to say "his dna was all over the window".... duhh!
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
mate honestly an aprilia rs125 would be quicker, its a mondeo ffs
Edited for you.

Proper load of shit out of the OP's mouth.

Maybe the bike never tried because of the tard mondeo bus driver behind him.
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Originally Posted by focusrrx87
just txt him apparently it's a ZXR750H2. What ever that means. Lmao
it means its a 20 year old Kawasaki sports bike
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end of the day im an average rider and have a gsxr 600 as my first bike, and tbh if the bloke behind me was being a cock then no iwouldnt bother having a play with him through twistys as if he makes one mistake its and mis judges my braking im the fucker thats gona get a car up my arse

plus it all depends on how confident you are on the bike and how well you can ride a bike aswell

but still a st200 is not going to catch a 600cc bike even round twistys unless the bike wasnt trying or just riding normally without even realising he was supose to be racing someone lol

idont even bother with cars or bikes as i enjoy going out on my bike for time to myself and just chill, i do sometimes play with the odd m3 now and then but very rarely, and the only car that has come past me in acceleration and top speed was a porsche turbo a couple weeks back, it could match me on acceleration and had better top speed but then were talking a different class of car
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On the twisies if the rider is "average" and the car driver is "good/brave/mental etc" then the car will put up a pretty reasonable effort. It probably wont win but it should be hanging about in the not too distant background.
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
so the bike was 2 up and you pulled away?

if so im not surprised as he was thinking about his pillion

but a 600 would keep with a 360bhp cossie as i had ago against my mates cbr 600, rolling and there was nothing in it
Yea, but he literally turned around in the road and went in the opposite direction to the way he was originally travelling, just to have a go against me... so I very much doubt he wasn't giving it 100% when we opened it up.

Plus, I'd back my car against a 360bhp 4x4 Cossie because I've pulled away from a 370bhp Evo (7 or 8, I forget) before... a 360bhp 2WD Cossie (once rolling) would be a better contest.

Do you not think that if your pal had stayed 100% committed, but had someone on the back of his CBR600 when you raced him, you might have pulled away at a similar rate as I did?? I dont know what sort of run you had, but mine was from 40mph to 160mph, I'm not talking about a quick blast through a couple of gears.


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Originally Posted by BigErn
On the twisies if the rider is "average" and the car driver is "good/brave/mental etc" then the car will put up a pretty reasonable effort. It probably wont win but it should be hanging about in the not too distant background.
Thats it isn't it, atleast a car your "in it" and not "on it".

Tried in an Xr2 years back to keep with a mates RVF400 (think it was Rvf the Ltd one simular to the Vfr) and he pissed all over it. The run was from the M53 Junction 4 down to Heswall. http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?rlz=1T...N&hl=en&tab=wl

Even another mates Astra Gsi had trouble keeping near it.
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Had a bike licence 12 years, car 11..

A GOOD 350+ rwd cossie with sorted brakes/suspension with a good driver will give the older ( up to about 2004/5) 600's a fucking good run for thier money. Any 750/1000 will DESTROY any car unless it's running a solid 500bhp+, or the rider isn't very confident.

But the massive factor here is the driver/rider, I can drive a car a fuck sight more aggressivly on the road, and I'm not really worried about getting out of shape at high speed as I am confident I know what I'm doing... On my bike it is a different story, it's a 1998 Ducati 996 that's putting out 115Bhp at the back wheel. In a straight race I would piss on 95% of anything, but throw a few corners in, and it's a different story, you just CANNOT push a big bike hard on public roads, any mishap and you are brown bread, so I choose life, and don't get involved with people happy to ride/drive like tools...
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Originally Posted by RS Grant
Yea, but he literally turned around in the road and went in the opposite direction to the way he was originally travelling, just to have a go against me... so I very much doubt he wasn't giving it 100% when we opened it up.

Plus, I'd back my car against a 360bhp 4x4 Cossie because I've pulled away from a 370bhp Evo (7 or 8, I forget) before... a 360bhp 2WD Cossie (once rolling) would be a better contest.

Do you not think that if your pal had stayed 100% committed, but had someone on the back of his CBR600 when you raced him, you might have pulled away at a similar rate as I did?? I dont know what sort of run you had, but mine was from 40mph to 160mph, I'm not talking about a quick blast through a couple of gears.


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we were flat out from 20 upto 150 before we ran out of road

but it all depends on rider, how do you know that his ilion never told him to slow down? hence gaining that much away, plus cars will always get more top end depening on bike well upto 600cc anyhow, and with 2 people on a bike there is a lot less top end aswell
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It's a given that a Mondeo doesn't stand a chance against a sports bike but is anyone else fed up of these young retards that think it's cool to talk street and use text talk? It winds me up, use spell check for fuck sake, you will find that it will correct 95% of the shite you have written

Sorry for the rant but I'm getting fed up of these brainless retards

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See paulo your stereo typeing matey [young kid i,m 36] [boy racer not so] street talk use spell check for [FUCK SAKE] yes because thats english. fuk off m8 and av a go at sumbody who is right in ur face or aint u fuking man enoughf now fuk off cas i,v had it with people jumping on the wagon and trying to look more popular than than really are O YER SORRY FOR THE RANT TWAT.
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Not another of these threads & this time its a 36 year old that believes he beat a bike in a rather sedate old mondy. You were probably beating Busa Turbos when you were 18 in a 1.1 Nova . Its called Bullshit a common complaint amongst the young but at 36 get real. Check the stats on these bikes before you make a fool of yourself on an internet Forum.
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CBA reading all the replies, sounds daft though.
the only plac ei reckon you'd keep up is at top speed, the bake would be a little lively and on th elimiter, the car would be more stable and coping just fine.
fireblades do an indicated 180mph standard and thay have loads more power, so i'd reckon on the 600 pulling 140-150mph, mondy should be able to do that.
as for acceleration, well, no bloody contest that the bike would win.
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Originally Posted by xr2wishy
CBA reading all the replies, sounds daft though.
the only plac ei reckon you'd keep up is at top speed, the bake would be a little lively and on th elimiter, the car would be more stable and coping just fine.
fireblades do an indicated 180mph standard and thay have loads more power, so i'd reckon on the 600 pulling 140-150mph, mondy should be able to do that.
as for acceleration, well, no bloody contest that the bike would win.
by the time the mondeo was flat out the 600 will be in the garage and the owner pumping his missus
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
we were flat out from 20 upto 150 before we ran out of road

but it all depends on rider, how do you know that his ilion never told him to slow down? hence gaining that much away, plus cars will always get more top end depening on bike well upto 600cc anyhow, and with 2 people on a bike there is a lot less top end aswell
True, I don't know that... however, I would expect it to go from a close contest to zero contest and me pulling away substantially and very quickly if the pillion had asked to slow things down mate. End of the day, I'm not sure many people would see the point in giving a half-assed attempt at keeping up when the car and bike were obviously so closely matched.

I'm aware that having a pillion on a bike will change the power/weight as there is so little weight to start with, 80-90kg extra is going to have an impact... if it was just mano v mano, I'm sure it would have been much closer.


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Originally Posted by Fiddy
If its standard no. there was a 200 running at the pod last weekend, dont know if it was remapped, i had a look around it, it had a filter and stainless exhaust, and that was running 16.5 quaters. 200's are a fair bit lighter than 220's, so a 200 with a couple of basic mods will be quicker than a standard 220, so given the 16.5 quaters it was running, id say 17's is pretty close for a standard 220.
Surely there not that slow? A mate did a 14.6 with 125hp in a crx. I know there lighter but still...

As for the bikes, it depends on the rider. I can't see the mondeo doing great against it. But I can see it only pulling a few cars if the car got the jump etc etc.

Say the mondeo's doing 80 the bike 65 when they start. By the time the bikes at 80 the mondeo's at 85 and still pulling away.
When the bike hits 85 mondeo at 88 etc etc. This will would probably be a 10 second race across I small bypass and it seems like the bikes only pulled 1 car length.

In a fair race you need about 400hp per tonne to beat a 600. And more like 600 to beat a modern liter bike.
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these ive beat a bike threads do make me laugh,and the zx would murder a mondeo.how do i know? because theres that model zx6 keeping my nsr 250 company in the garage
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there is no way a 220 mondeo will stick to a zx6r being ridden hard, the 340bhp subaru i can understand if it was a 2 up bike.

there are so many differentials on a race its crazy but just because a bike is noisy or pulls away from a standstill quickly doesnt mean its being ragged to 18k in every gear
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right ive just checked 0 - 100 mph 20.5 seconds and 1/4 mile in 15.58 at 92 mph my old tzr 125 from 12 years ago would just about keep up with the mondy down the 1/4 mile lol

what a silly thread
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This is my point where does it say I beat the bike read wot I said befor u jump on it
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I kept up with a bike in my ickle st170!!!!!!!!! well the town bike lol!
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I never even consider playing with a bike when they are 2 up

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Remember lads a fair few of these are restricted to 33bhp for the under 21's any way, friend has an st200 which is pretty standard and that was doing 15.5 all day at the pod last year, so if it was a restricted bike the coat may fit.

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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
right ive just checked 0 - 100 mph 20.5 seconds and 1/4 mile in 15.58 at 92 mph my old tzr 125 from 12 years ago would just about keep up with the mondy down the 1/4 mile lol

what a silly thread
Your bike was probably near the 33bhp limit then, and a lot lighter than a restricted ninja...... so maybe a restricted bike is the answer and the guy isn't the massive prick every one is making out.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
by the time the mondeo was flat out the 600 will be in the garage and the owner pumping his missus
FPMSL

i love the look of these older bikes with the frame holding the fairing

or the ones with tubing coming from the fairing to feed the airbox
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Originally Posted by jammerrs
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i love the look of these older bikes with the frame holding the fairing

or the ones with tubing coming from the fairing to feed the airbox

mine has the tubes comming from the fairing to air ducts

heres my bike

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ive got a 95 ninja and a ecos with 300horse and im not the greatest rider but can deff out run my car straigh and in bends,, if you dont ride bikes then u proberly wont relise it not just max out all time, its very difficult and scary somtime to be going round the b roads 100+



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