H.Engineering, F.Motorsport, Hub Dyno
21-04-2010, 08:13 PM
#1
H.Engineering, F.Motorsport, Hub Dyno
I took the car down to Torque Developments today, nice bunch of lads and tested my winter mods.
Spot of Harness Engineering kindly supplied the additional sensors required and sorted out the wiring for all the toys and made a top quality Engine Harness for me, Tom Field of Field Motorsport configured the T62000 ecu for me and mapped the car today, both very proffesional, a BIG thanks guys.
I rebuilt the engine about a year or so ago and modified the car for boot mounted rad etc to fit a huge intercooler in the front when i stepped up to a much higher spec rebuild, it was running on P8 previous to this.
The following graphs are power at the wheels.
1.6 bar boost
2.2 bar boost
1.6 bar and 2.2 bar overlayed
I think i am going to have to be carefull in my car!!!
Where's the toilet paper.
Spot of Harness Engineering kindly supplied the additional sensors required and sorted out the wiring for all the toys and made a top quality Engine Harness for me, Tom Field of Field Motorsport configured the T62000 ecu for me and mapped the car today, both very proffesional, a BIG thanks guys.
I rebuilt the engine about a year or so ago and modified the car for boot mounted rad etc to fit a huge intercooler in the front when i stepped up to a much higher spec rebuild, it was running on P8 previous to this.
The following graphs are power at the wheels.
1.6 bar boost
2.2 bar boost
1.6 bar and 2.2 bar overlayed
I think i am going to have to be carefull in my car!!!
Where's the toilet paper.
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but i like it can you put up the spec sheet for your car to see what you have done 
23-04-2010, 04:51 PM
#12
No, Horse power per ton is calculated as follows;
1000 (1000 KG=ton) divided by the weight of the car in KG
Multiplied by the horse power (normally crank horse power)
Therefore 1000 divided by 780 =1.2820512
2wd transmission losses would be at least 10%
Therefore 591 wheel HP X 1.1 = 650 crank HP minimum
1.2820512 X 650 = 833 BHP/Ton
The same works for torque
460 X 1.1 = 506
1.2820512 X 506 = 649 LBFT/Ton
Hope this helps.
1000 (1000 KG=ton) divided by the weight of the car in KG
Multiplied by the horse power (normally crank horse power)
Therefore 1000 divided by 780 =1.2820512
2wd transmission losses would be at least 10%
Therefore 591 wheel HP X 1.1 = 650 crank HP minimum
1.2820512 X 650 = 833 BHP/Ton
The same works for torque
460 X 1.1 = 506
1.2820512 X 506 = 649 LBFT/Ton
Hope this helps.
23-04-2010, 05:01 PM
#13
PassionFord Post Whore!!
i just typed bhp per tonne calculator in google,
and it came up with 768
whatever it is its bloody impressive.
and wouldnt rwd tranny losses be more like 18% making it 696 at the fly?
madness.
vids?
and it came up with 768
whatever it is its bloody impressive.
and wouldnt rwd tranny losses be more like 18% making it 696 at the fly?
madness.
vids?
23-04-2010, 05:51 PM
#17
Yes,
I have launch control and traction control on the T6, it has some base settings in it but iassume it will take some setting up. I had a Racelogic launch/traction control system fitted previously.
I am unable to drive the car until the suspension is checked and set up as i have also changed the suspension and have some issues, hopefull that will be sorted in a week or two.
I have launch control and traction control on the T6, it has some base settings in it but iassume it will take some setting up. I had a Racelogic launch/traction control system fitted previously.
I am unable to drive the car until the suspension is checked and set up as i have also changed the suspension and have some issues, hopefull that will be sorted in a week or two.
07-05-2010, 08:51 PM
#18
Engine Spec
Engine spec,
Cylinder head.
26.5mm line bored inlets
25mm exhaust
3 angle valve seats
balanced chambers
Above works carried out by Niel Roper
double valve springs
Standard Cosworth inlet and exhaust valves
Arrow solid lifters and shims (supplied by Steve)
Piper 651 cam shafts (timed at 110 degrees full valve lift on inlet and exhaust)
Piper verniers
Turbo/Exhaust.
Tubular inconel exhaust manifold (Metalogic)
Pro Gate 50 waste gate
GT35R with .82 housing
3" exhaust system
Block.
200
6 long studs
4 short (ARP)
Coopers rings
Oli squirt jets
Windage plate
Flap type sump baffle
Cosworth oil pump
Crank.
Knife edged, polished & balanced
Lightened 2wd fly wheel with ARP bolts
Above works by Mike Jennings
Rods.
Arrow (supplied by Steve)
Rod bolts Arrow (as above)
Pistons.
Cosworth, decked and pocketed (by Joe Stevens plus general advice for assembly)
Cosworth rings
Electronics.
T62000 (configured by Field Motorsport)
Launch control
Traction control (in car adjustable)
Water injection
Boost (in car adjustable)
Air injectors
ALS
Distributorless
36-1 crank pulley
Raychem loom (Fabricated by Harness Engineering)
Fuel pressure sensor
Oil pressure sensor
4 no wheel speed sensors
Fuel,
1000cc injectors
WRC bosh type fuel regulator
Twin Bosch pumps
Lift pump & swirl pot
Miscelaneous.
Swedish type inlet manifold
Intercooler
Rear mounted rad
Header tank
Water swirl pot
Fuel swirl pot
All fabricated by Richard Jones Motorsport
70mm throttle body (R&B Motorsport type)
More recent picture of engine.
Pictures of engine pre assembly.
Cylinder head.
26.5mm line bored inlets
25mm exhaust
3 angle valve seats
balanced chambers
Above works carried out by Niel Roper
double valve springs
Standard Cosworth inlet and exhaust valves
Arrow solid lifters and shims (supplied by Steve)
Piper 651 cam shafts (timed at 110 degrees full valve lift on inlet and exhaust)
Piper verniers
Turbo/Exhaust.
Tubular inconel exhaust manifold (Metalogic)
Pro Gate 50 waste gate
GT35R with .82 housing
3" exhaust system
Block.
200
6 long studs
4 short (ARP)
Coopers rings
Oli squirt jets
Windage plate
Flap type sump baffle
Cosworth oil pump
Crank.
Knife edged, polished & balanced
Lightened 2wd fly wheel with ARP bolts
Above works by Mike Jennings
Rods.
Arrow (supplied by Steve)
Rod bolts Arrow (as above)
Pistons.
Cosworth, decked and pocketed (by Joe Stevens plus general advice for assembly)
Cosworth rings
Electronics.
T62000 (configured by Field Motorsport)
Launch control
Traction control (in car adjustable)
Water injection
Boost (in car adjustable)
Air injectors
ALS
Distributorless
36-1 crank pulley
Raychem loom (Fabricated by Harness Engineering)
Fuel pressure sensor
Oil pressure sensor
4 no wheel speed sensors
Fuel,
1000cc injectors
WRC bosh type fuel regulator
Twin Bosch pumps
Lift pump & swirl pot
Miscelaneous.
Swedish type inlet manifold
Intercooler
Rear mounted rad
Header tank
Water swirl pot
Fuel swirl pot
All fabricated by Richard Jones Motorsport
70mm throttle body (R&B Motorsport type)
More recent picture of engine.
Pictures of engine pre assembly.
07-05-2010, 09:16 PM
#20
If i can get the traction control working properly hopefully for some time yet, i was running 605 bhp & 436 lbft before on P8 with a Raceloic traction control system, the tc system worked very well.
The tc and launch built in the T62000 should work better with less power loss, i just need to get it set up properly and learn to trust it as i did the RL tc system.
I had a very quick spin further to replacing my suspension and it was f*****g scary, working on the car at the moment to adjust the geometry then i will concentrate on getting the traction control set up to suite the car.
The tc and launch built in the T62000 should work better with less power loss, i just need to get it set up properly and learn to trust it as i did the RL tc system.
I had a very quick spin further to replacing my suspension and it was f*****g scary, working on the car at the moment to adjust the geometry then i will concentrate on getting the traction control set up to suite the car.
08-05-2010, 08:35 PM
#29
you may be right Mike, i will get it set up and see how it behaves. I was running 605 bhp and 436 lbft last year at the crank at 2 bar boost, that is similar now to my 1.6 bar boost 550 bhp at the wheels, unuseable in the wet but dry with warm tires and an ambient over about 15 degrees the car put the power down suprisingly well, it was just reassuring knowing that if i over done it i wasnt going up the road side ways at virtually any speed.
This is my old rolling road graph.
This is my old rolling road graph.
09-05-2010, 07:56 AM
#32
With proper rollers, grip is not an issue until well into 4 figures.
And Torque Developmenst use a RotoTest hub dyno. If Carlsberg did dynos....
Its a fantastic result and a stunning build, and in something as light as that will be truly mental.
BUT.....why is there such a minimal gain from 1.6bar, to 2.2 bar with what is a relatively big compressor ? Or is some aspect nearly maxed out ?
Given the extra heat involved with the extra boost etc is it even worth running such high boost ?
And Torque Developmenst use a RotoTest hub dyno. If Carlsberg did dynos....
Its a fantastic result and a stunning build, and in something as light as that will be truly mental.
BUT.....why is there such a minimal gain from 1.6bar, to 2.2 bar with what is a relatively big compressor ? Or is some aspect nearly maxed out ?
Given the extra heat involved with the extra boost etc is it even worth running such high boost ?
09-05-2010, 03:11 PM
#34
I think the GT35R is on its limit, i will probably run at the lower boost setting most of the time, i also fitted an additional silencer whilst on the hub dyno and tested it at full boost, the engine lost 30 wheel hp. I may be forced to use this on track as the car is a bit noisey when on boost at high revs.
I will try to avoid using it as i am concerned with the strain it will put on the rest of the exhaust and more importantly the exhaust manifold hanging off the end of the tail pipe.
I will try to avoid using it as i am concerned with the strain it will put on the rest of the exhaust and more importantly the exhaust manifold hanging off the end of the tail pipe.
