Halal approved........
23-03-2010, 04:25 PM
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Think alot of people have the wrong idea about how this country could be "fixed" tbh.
23-03-2010, 06:10 PM
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yet these same benefit scroungers whinge about immigrants taking jobs Oh wait..... we cant say that. people who work for a living arent allowed to comment on the "working/benefit class" as its considered "picking on poor people"
), social services wouldnt be so strained, the criminal justice system wouldnt be so strained, niether would NHS.
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For the record my original beef (can muslims eat beef?) was with halal approved on me sweets. I understand the reasons why it's written on the packaging but it just gets my back up.
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
23-03-2010, 06:53 PM
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For the record my original beef (can muslims eat beef?) was with halal approved on me sweets. I understand the reasons why it's written on the packaging but it just gets my back up.
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
Also I don't think you are in any position to judge Halal slaughtering unless you are concerned about all slaughtering tbh. I can assure you that far worse goes on than the cutting of a concious animals throat.
23-03-2010, 07:03 PM
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The Halal stuff is not all about meat thou is it? And didn't someone say the Serbert DipDabs were veggy in anycase? So not really sure what your point is?
Also I don't think you are in any position to judge Halal slaughtering unless you are concerned about all slaughtering tbh. I can assure you that far worse goes on than the cutting of a concious animals throat.
Also I don't think you are in any position to judge Halal slaughtering unless you are concerned about all slaughtering tbh. I can assure you that far worse goes on than the cutting of a concious animals throat.
With regards to slaughtering, if the welfare laws of this green and pleasant land are follwed and enforced then animals are treat in the most appropriate and humane way given the cirumstances.
For an animals throat to be cut whilst fully conscious, it can take that poor animal a couple of minutes to die. Look it up......
23-03-2010, 07:14 PM
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Its a decision society needs to make, do we value animal cruelty as a bigger issue than muslims having access to halal meat??? remember they can import halal meat at thier expense and still solve animal cruelty by no animal cruelty taking place in UK yet the muslims still get thier halal meat albeit imported.
Although in the grand big scheme of things compared to the cruelty imposed on many humans in the UK by so called parents/care givers, the added cruelty to animals is insignificant!
23-03-2010, 07:38 PM
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I'm not really sure what your point about my point is either to be fair....
With regards to slaughtering, if the welfare laws of this green and pleasant land are follwed and enforced then animals are treat in the most appropriate and humane way given the cirumstances.
For an animals throat to be cut whilst fully conscious, it can take that poor animal a couple of minutes to die. Look it up......
With regards to slaughtering, if the welfare laws of this green and pleasant land are follwed and enforced then animals are treat in the most appropriate and humane way given the cirumstances.
For an animals throat to be cut whilst fully conscious, it can take that poor animal a couple of minutes to die. Look it up......
If you also think that the laws we have now are serving to "treat animals in the most appropriate and humane way" then you again, very wrong.
If your concern, as you seem to be stating is for the welfare of animals, then I think you need to rethink what you eat, presuming you eat meat at all.
23-03-2010, 07:50 PM
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Also before the inevitable reply saying that its a legal requirememnt to stun a animal before slaughter, I am well aware of this but the fact is there is a legal exception in place when it comes to Halal slaughter. The question is not one of weather Halal breaks laws, as it does not.
23-03-2010, 07:55 PM
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I would like to see this point extended to cover everyone who doesn't contribute. If we got rid of those there would be plenty of room and money for the people who do. Can you imagine the amount of taxes saved if we got rid of all the english dole scroungers? On the otherhand getting rid of everyone who wasn't pure english would cripple this country.
Think alot of people have the wrong idea about how this country could be "fixed" tbh.
Think alot of people have the wrong idea about how this country could be "fixed" tbh.
I wonder how many actual extra sales they've made by putting that on the packaging? Is it on any other sweets? It could just be a clever marketing ploy to target a market that doesn't normally buy their sweets.
I do agree that it seems a bizarre thing to do - Like when they say "contains nuts" on a packet of nuts!
23-03-2010, 08:04 PM
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My point I suppose, is that if you think that Halal slaughtering is done on a massive scale in the UK without meeting the "welfare laws of this green and pleasant land" then you are very wrong. I am sure some companies are not meeting these laws of course, but that goes for non halal.
If you also think that the laws we have now are serving to "treat animals in the most appropriate and humane way" then you again, very wrong.
If your concern, as you seem to be stating is for the welfare of animals, then I think you need to rethink what you eat, presuming you eat meat at all.
If you also think that the laws we have now are serving to "treat animals in the most appropriate and humane way" then you again, very wrong.
If your concern, as you seem to be stating is for the welfare of animals, then I think you need to rethink what you eat, presuming you eat meat at all.
Are you actually saying you think the make believe should have an influence on the way things are done in this country? Not only that, but have you seen the rest of the stuff in the Koran? Where is this going to stop in the quest of keeping followers of Islam happy. My guess is that a lot of the Muslims in this country would never want to go back to the east where they live in far less developed countries, yet they want to bring their whole oppressive lifestyle over here, not realising that this country wouldn't quite be the same if they did get their way.
Also, your comments on Halal make no sense whatsoever. How can stringing an animal up and slitting its throat be in any way compared to stunning it. When the animal is stunned it doesn't even know what's hit it... now compare that to some religious psychopath stringing it up wielding a machete or similar. It's going to be absolutely shitting itself, in much the same way as a woman would be after 'disgracing' her family according the rules of the Koran before she is brutally killed.
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23-03-2010, 08:09 PM
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My point I suppose, is that if you think that Halal slaughtering is done on a massive scale in the UK without meeting the "welfare laws of this green and pleasant land" then you are very wrong. I am sure some companies are not meeting these laws of course, but that goes for non halal.
If you also think that the laws we have now are serving to "treat animals in the most appropriate and humane way" then you again, very wrong.
If your concern, as you seem to be stating is for the welfare of animals, then I think you need to rethink what you eat, presuming you eat meat at all.
If you also think that the laws we have now are serving to "treat animals in the most appropriate and humane way" then you again, very wrong.
If your concern, as you seem to be stating is for the welfare of animals, then I think you need to rethink what you eat, presuming you eat meat at all.
Exceptions are made for religious minorities which I don't agree with.
As for what I personally eat, yep, I do eat meat. And I can only trust that when it says free range on the label that it actually is, as it would be illegal for them to lie......
23-03-2010, 08:46 PM
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The point is that the way the civilised world do things should not be influenced by something that isn't real, i.e., Islam. When I say it isn't real I don't do it to offend Muslims, but the fact is that gods are real to a believer of religion in the same way as superman is to a believer of superheros.
Are you actually saying you think the make believe should have an influence on the way things are done in this country? Not only that, but have you seen the rest of the stuff in the Koran? Where is this going to stop in the quest of keeping followers of Islam happy. My guess is that a lot of the Muslims in this country would never want to go back to the east where they live in far less developed countries, yet they want to bring their whole oppressive lifestyle over here, not realising that this country wouldn't quite be the same if they did get their way.
Also, your comments on Halal make no sense whatsoever. How can stringing an animal up and slitting its throat be in any way compared to stunning it. When the animal is stunned it doesn't even know what's hit it... now compare that to some religious psychopath stringing it up wielding a machete or similar. It's going to be absolutely shitting itself, in much the same way as a woman would be after 'disgracing' her family according the rules of the Koran before she is brutally killed.
Are you actually saying you think the make believe should have an influence on the way things are done in this country? Not only that, but have you seen the rest of the stuff in the Koran? Where is this going to stop in the quest of keeping followers of Islam happy. My guess is that a lot of the Muslims in this country would never want to go back to the east where they live in far less developed countries, yet they want to bring their whole oppressive lifestyle over here, not realising that this country wouldn't quite be the same if they did get their way.
Also, your comments on Halal make no sense whatsoever. How can stringing an animal up and slitting its throat be in any way compared to stunning it. When the animal is stunned it doesn't even know what's hit it... now compare that to some religious psychopath stringing it up wielding a machete or similar. It's going to be absolutely shitting itself, in much the same way as a woman would be after 'disgracing' her family according the rules of the Koran before she is brutally killed.
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24-03-2010, 01:17 PM
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http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
24-03-2010, 01:22 PM
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Totally agree and this just happens to be in my local paper today:
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
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Totally agree and this just happens to be in my local paper today:
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
Edit: Fair play to the guy complaining obviously.
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Totally agree and this just happens to be in my local paper today:
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
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Totally agree and this just happens to be in my local paper today:
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/News/Hal...C-customer.htm
That is unbelievable!
24-03-2010, 03:55 PM
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its all about cash and targeting groups of customers, in this case muslims, happens everyday to all of us without us knowing
nothing racial about it, money makes world go round
nothing racial about it, money makes world go round
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So what there saying is, we will only serve you meat that has suffered more so than needed? How fucking crule! After reading this thread and learning about the prossess's that are gone though to make the meat blessed, I am seriously going halal free. I enjoying eating meat and some may say I'm being silly but I can no long eat meat that I know has cause the animal more suffering than needed.
In this day and age I think it's pathetic!!
In this day and age I think it's pathetic!!
24-03-2010, 04:12 PM
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Targeting customers is one thing Ranj, but by turning it into a halal only kfc they're alienating and discriminating against non-muslims. Regardless of the welfare ethics in this, people should be given a choice. And until this is a muslim run country their religion takes second place as far as I'm concerned.
I'd bet there were plenty of 'not such devout muslims' that were frequenting it before anyway!
24-03-2010, 04:15 PM
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Targeting customers is one thing Ranj, but by turning it into a halal only kfc they're alienating and discriminating against non-muslims. Regardless of the welfare ethics in this, people should be given a choice. And until this is a muslim run country their religion takes second place as far as I'm concerned.
I'd bet there were plenty of 'not such devout muslims' that were frequenting it before anyway!
I'd bet there were plenty of 'not such devout muslims' that were frequenting it before anyway!
lol they have taken 1 burger of the menu
who eats that shit anyway
and i eat everything lol
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i love kfc,on another note burnley council have just passed planing to have a 1500 muslim only girls school yet would not give my mum plannig for a single story extension on top of her garage
24-03-2010, 04:29 PM
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So what there saying is, we will only serve you meat that has suffered more so than needed? How fucking crule! After reading this thread and learning about the prossess's that are gone though to make the meat blessed, I am seriously going halal free. I enjoying eating meat and some may say I'm being silly but I can no long eat meat that I know has cause the animal more suffering than needed.
In this day and age I think it's pathetic!!
In this day and age I think it's pathetic!!
24-03-2010, 04:34 PM
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I certainly would not want to drive a further 5 miles to eat a burger of my choice.
But people need to be given a choice not just refused. KFC crack me up as they have gone all halal in these premises to appease the muslim folk yet they seem to have forgetten that is not their only target audience.
24-03-2010, 05:54 PM
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Why cant they have a separate grill and fryer and prep area for halal products??? mixing issues solved then. have cutting boards, knives etc with "halal only" written on them. Keep halal on different area of fridge/freezers etc. Really not that hard to implement.
25-03-2010, 12:13 AM
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though totally pointless IMO,,, food is food,,chicken is still chicken,, the chicken will still die, our religion dont restrict us for eating halal,,, is it that hard to work out ?
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For the record my original beef (can muslims eat beef?) was with halal approved on me sweets. I understand the reasons why it's written on the packaging but it just gets my back up.
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
I'm not against any foreign person calling Britain home, but in this case what I am against is the fact that animal welfare laws are ignored to accomodate a different culture. That's WRONG!
I want NON-HALAL APPROVED sherbet dip dabs!
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