What are the gains of not running water through your Turbo??
08-01-2005, 05:38 PM
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What are the gains of not running water through your Turbo??
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Was changing the Rad on Little Joes RS Turbo today as we thought it was leaking, but once all back together again it looks to be the bottom water pipe that goes into/out of the Turbo.
Then i though that some people dont run water through the turbos. What is the gains from doing this and can it be done on an RS Turbo.
Was changing the Rad on Little Joes RS Turbo today as we thought it was leaking, but once all back together again it looks to be the bottom water pipe that goes into/out of the Turbo.
Then i though that some people dont run water through the turbos. What is the gains from doing this and can it be done on an RS Turbo.
08-01-2005, 05:44 PM
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ive got a turbo from a saab on my erst which doesnt have any
water pipes on it,ive had my turbo and exhaust manifold glowing
orange a couple of times so that will heat the water up a lot i would
hav thought
water pipes on it,ive had my turbo and exhaust manifold glowing
orange a couple of times so that will heat the water up a lot i would
hav thought
08-01-2005, 05:47 PM
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Your coolant temps should remain lower but you must ensure you run the engine out properly after a thrash to allow the oil to cool down properly. The S1 Escort RS Turbo didn't have water cooling
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08-01-2005, 05:51 PM
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i think theres more to it than just coolant temps in the engine. there was big post on it here at some time.
another thing ive heard but dont know myself is that the oilways on an s1 turbo are bigger so the oil gives a cooling effect aswell that you dont get on an s2.
another thing ive heard but dont know myself is that the oilways on an s1 turbo are bigger so the oil gives a cooling effect aswell that you dont get on an s2.
08-01-2005, 05:54 PM
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surely if u just join or blank the pipes on the rad and just blank the
pipes on the turbo off or just leave them,ive just joined the 2
pipes on the rad 2gether and havnt had any problems
pipes on the turbo off or just leave them,ive just joined the 2
pipes on the rad 2gether and havnt had any problems
08-01-2005, 05:57 PM
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if its a series 2 turbo housing, it doesn't have the cooling fins like the series 1 turbo housing so the turbo will get hotter
To remove the water course thru the turbo, block up the return to the drivers side of the rad, and block up the small feed from the F shaped hose off the thermostathousing
If it needs connecting back up, PM me as i have a spare set of metal water pipes and hoses
if its a series 2 turbo housing, it doesn't have the cooling fins like the series 1 turbo housing so the turbo will get hotter
To remove the water course thru the turbo, block up the return to the drivers side of the rad, and block up the small feed from the F shaped hose off the thermostathousing
If it needs connecting back up, PM me as i have a spare set of metal water pipes and hoses
08-01-2005, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF-C20WTH
Cheers chaps.....................and you AJ 
Tiffany, just join the 2 water feed hose's together mate & the water with run through no probs or block them off - it's upto you
08-01-2005, 05:58 PM
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the water cooler bearing housings have a shared capacity of oil/water rather than just being cooled/lubed via the oil.
the problems ive always had with running a water supply through the turbo , is that when the cars given a good seeing to , the turbo core is abviously at temps circa 800deg, now what would happen to a water supply hitting a metal core at 800deg , exactly it turns to steam , the knock on effect being a water system full of air.
ive always removed the water side of all my turbos, and had no side effects , now i tend to just change the bearing housings to oil cooled units rather than oil/water , job sorted !!
the problems ive always had with running a water supply through the turbo , is that when the cars given a good seeing to , the turbo core is abviously at temps circa 800deg, now what would happen to a water supply hitting a metal core at 800deg , exactly it turns to steam , the knock on effect being a water system full of air.
ive always removed the water side of all my turbos, and had no side effects , now i tend to just change the bearing housings to oil cooled units rather than oil/water , job sorted !!
08-01-2005, 06:30 PM
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oil only cooled turbos have got a different jacket to oil/water cooled if you use oil only on a water/oil cooled turbo it will run hoter and shorten its life if you want to lower running temps use a turbo cooler / alloy/bigger radiator i have fitted a pro alloy turbo cooler and the difference is massive me and karl have had my car on 2 bar of boost all day and its never gone above 78 oC
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i ran my turbo for 20,000 mls without water and no probs, but someone i know fooked two cores up within 6 months doing the same. i,ve put water back on mine now after brazing round the banjo fittings because if they are going to leak that is the weak spot.
08-01-2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
the water cooler bearing housings have a shared capacity of oil/water rather than just being cooled/lubed via the oil.
the problems ive always had with running a water supply through the turbo , is that when the cars given a good seeing to , the turbo core is abviously at temps circa 800deg, now what would happen to a water supply hitting a metal core at 800deg , exactly it turns to steam , the knock on effect being a water system full of air.
ive always removed the water side of all my turbos, and had no side effects , now i tend to just change the bearing housings to oil cooled units rather than oil/water , job sorted !!
the problems ive always had with running a water supply through the turbo , is that when the cars given a good seeing to , the turbo core is abviously at temps circa 800deg, now what would happen to a water supply hitting a metal core at 800deg , exactly it turns to steam , the knock on effect being a water system full of air.
ive always removed the water side of all my turbos, and had no side effects , now i tend to just change the bearing housings to oil cooled units rather than oil/water , job sorted !!
08-01-2005, 07:50 PM
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Amen - my water was in the fookin bin!
Run my car on numerous track days without water, and no probs at all.
However, on the GT series, you MUST run water, as the oil is only a miniscule feed, and has only lubrication purposes and not cooling at all.
Run my car on numerous track days without water, and no probs at all.
However, on the GT series, you MUST run water, as the oil is only a miniscule feed, and has only lubrication purposes and not cooling at all.
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