Compression ratio again
Feb 20, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Compression ratio again
can you tell the compression ratio by filling up the bore through the spark plug hole when the engine is at tdc ?
Feb 20, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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i know this sounds stupid,but i had my pistons machined,lower compression and valve cutouts,and i can't remember what it was,think it was 7.5.1.
The plan was to have it live mapped by the chap who had all the engine parts machined for me,as he speced my engine for about 380-400 bhp,but i now want an msd chip.They said was going to run light blues on t34.48
Feb 21, 2010 | 02:12 PM
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what engine are you talking about? YB?
if so; what is the bore measurement
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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yep,its a yb,1st oversize
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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who machined your pistons ?
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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Feb 21, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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dont think we have many light blues files for off the shelf application, i would go 55s, as for CR, if its unknown ideaaly live map it.
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:25 PM
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I,m not sure who machined them,i just gave a box of bits to the chaps,and had it all back done.
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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Feb 21, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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I'm certain it was 7.5.1,i might give them a ring,hopefully they won't get the arse.
What sort of power would an msd chip be.
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:30 PM
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on a t34 48, flat out 360-370
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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on a t34 48, flat out 360-370
and the rest james, we have done plenty on the dyno above that
im sure you guys can get a bit more
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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not off the shelf, we never over quote figures, if they make more so be it
i pushed my .48 very very hard, and saw around 380bhp/420lb/ft, they just run out of puff too early for much more than that
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Feb 21, 2010 | 06:34 PM
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does lowering the compression make a difference on the power output from standard,i was told it would stop detonation
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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not off the shelf
ok fair enough, a recent engine of ours did 380 something cant remember exactly on an off shelf chip so thought you were being a bit conservative there mate
better than being over though
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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going back to msd,does it make a difference to the programming if it were 7.5.1 or standard 8.1
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:38 PM
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does lowering the compression make a difference on the power output from standard,i was told it would stop detonation
we could easily do your turbocharger chioce on std comp
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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going back to msd,does it make a difference to the programming if it were 7.5.1 or standard 8.1
yep, the pistons in your pic are certainly not std CR
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Feb 21, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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ok fair enough, a recent engine of ours did 380 something cant remember exactly on an off shelf chip so thought you were being a bit conservative there mate
better than being over though
exactly mate, i love the .48, ace road spec
mine used to get a bit hot at 36psi though
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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The problem is,where i want to take it to be live mapped,they do it on the road,when its dry they are to busy,they quoted me 380bhp,but if msd can match that with a next day delivery and a set of siemens,then its got to be msd !
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exactly mate, i love the .48, ace road spec
mine used to get a bit hot at 36psi though
i bet they didnt last long lol
this is what i want im my saff first, makes such a nice road engine !
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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did 75k miles on one turbo belive it or not! never gave any trouble!
apart from killing 3 gearboxes in a year
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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did 75k miles on one turbo belive it or not! never gave any trouble!
apart from killing 3 gearboxes in a year
lucky with that one ! some last a couple of months
yours was 4x4 was it ?
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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The problem is,where i want to take it to be live mapped,they do it on the road,when its dry they are to busy,they quoted me 380bhp,but if msd can match that with a next day delivery and a set of siemens,then its got to be msd !
who were you going to take it too; quite a few capable people round kent way
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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yeah, i had to get a bara box on it
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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If you ask MSD to do a chip for a 7.5:1 engine and you get a couple of cracks of det then use the octane switch to take a couple degrees of ignition out. You arent going to be that far off the mark with your c/r are you. Not like its going to be 8:1 and you are thinking its 7:5.1.
Feb 21, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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yep,never thought of that,how much difference does it make having the valve cutouts on cr,assuming all other aspects are the same
Feb 21, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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iirc valve cut outs make 0.2 difference
Feb 21, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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mine have the valve cutouts done,and the dishes are very slightly bigger,compared to my old pistons,but only slightly bigger
Feb 21, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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the grove did all the running round,great blokes,just mega busy
Feb 23, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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phoned up today,def 7.5.1.
what sort of power should i expect t34.38 ?
Feb 23, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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A realistic 360 - 370 bhp i reckon.
Feb 23, 2010 | 05:43 PM
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that would do for me, in a 750kg car
Feb 23, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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I would say that is plenty yes mate
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