Porkie

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totally agree actually....

mozzy

there was an old maserati bi turbo being sold as a non runner for £250 in my local paper the other day

Mike Rainbird

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M3 CSL!

Chip

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Does everything and also has that bit of exclusivity too.
good suggestion

Mike C

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It's probably my favourite car "out of the box" in the whole world, but is it really one to buy to use every day?

I know you could use it everyday quite easily, buuuuuuut........ Someone must know what I mean.

mozzy

647 bhp £20k i would bsticking to the brand i love and buy this
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ford-Mustang-G...item53deac2cb4

Ash170990

Think for me would have to be a mint Skyline R34 GTR Nur edition :tops:

smithy20vt

CLS55AMG with a DMS Map for something a bit different in you want a bit more space

carlo

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You would have change with a csl as well may not be quite as quick as the others tho but again great cars

TT300

For that money a couple of years ago i would choose an f355 but lately ive become a bit of a snob for modern cars! Have any of you sat inside a 996? Dated is not the word! I think for that price range i would prob be in a b7 rs4 cab

Chip

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Ideal for those ring trips he mentioned, and the economy that he said does come into it too.

Or were you just answering a different question?

MikeR

would hate to think what you must be earning with your garage then

Mike

It's Czech Mate

Practically slick tyres and a carboard boot floor......not ideal for family trips to the ring heavily loaded


Fucking cool car, and would be my choice of weekend warrior if funds allowed

carlo

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They dont need to have the cup tyres on them we have one that comes in here with 90k on the clock with normal m3 tyres guy uses it everyday. Boot floors arent as flimsy as you might think either..

See more grey than carbon black about here i would love a black one

Chip

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Not exactly hard to change the tyres or put a sheet of ally in the boot if you are bothered, but its far more than just a piece of cardboard in there anyway!

It's Czech Mate

Totally true, but as I said, it wouldnt be my choice if family trips to the ring and holidays in europe were on the agenda

Chip

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He only mentioned ring trips, and trips abroad with the mrs.

doesnt sound quite as heavily loaded as you appear to be thinking.

The fact he is mentioning things like a 996 turbo, kind of rules out him taking a sofa with him when he goes anyway surely?

RS Grant

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30k is a lot to sink into a car... why not spunk half that on an extremely clean E39 M5, you seemed to be a massive fan of your last one so why not return to what you know made you happy.


Cheers,
Grant

carlo

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& just to add the boot floor isnt cardboard that was jeremy clarkson that said that in his humor

lead_foot

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Make an E46 M3 touring?

It's Czech Mate

Not sure where a sofa was mentioned? If so he'll be much better off with the RS6

jpfour

C5 RS6, 8 pot 365mm brembo's, 550bhp on a miltek and remap, Auto/tip tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_RS6#C5_RS6_Plus

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1482507.htm
or
B5 RS4, 360mm brakes [RS6 brakes fit tho ] only avants avaliable 450 bhp remaped 500+bhp on standard internals for an RS4.... however there are a few converted S4 saloons most have the MRC 500-550bhp conversions RS6 brakes etc see this video http://www.mrctuning.com/index.php?o...tion&Itemid=60 (the Vmax one)

Chip

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What were you actually thinking would fit in a 996 turbo but not an M3 CSL then?

T3ORA

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it s all good getting a 30k motor,but its running it after is the big thing

audi rs4 or rs6 am big buck to fix,clutchs,brakes, cambelts,etc etc

mercs am ok till they go wrong,and it will,gears boxs and abs units,balljoints

bmw,not so bad to run,and cheap ish to mantain,


vx8,when it breaks cheaper to but a new one

porsches,rads,turbos,tyres



if it was me

bmw csl, ap's on the front,bilsteins all round

every ones a winner

Mike C

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What about a CS?

Some of the extra good bits of the CSL carried over into an "everyday" M3. Would get you plenty of change and still a bit more exclusive.

Potential depreciation would be the only thing that'd scare me off. Certainly won't hold its value like a CSL will, but should hold it better than other M3s

mozzy

not 1 of the cars mentioned are even remotely economical and nor is this mustang but who gives a shit 647 bhp and rwd would be great fun and has space for kids and a boot to.

It's Czech Mate

I'd discounted it TBH as soon as he said trips abroad with the missis, as anyone with a wife/significant female other knows that would be physically impossible to go on trip in Porsche 911 that required more than 1 overnight stay........, and dont they have a child unless i'm mistaken? Which would rule out anything but short family trips

Anyway, as much as you're bleating on trying to trip me up for some bizarre reason, I merely said my personal choice if I was spending my cash wouldnt be the M3 CSL for the reasons mentioned, as much as I love them and would have one in a heartbeat for a weekend car. Each to their own and all that

Also the alcantara trim in them looks properly nasty when it gets worn, which it seems to quite easily from the ones i've been in IMO and I couldnt stand having a really lovely car with an interior that was looking a bit shabby

Out of all the choices mentioned i'd go for the Audi or the M6 if I could afford to run them, if trips abroad and holidays werent mentioned then 911, no competition

Porkie

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911's have a front boot and the seats fold at the back.... get LOADS in the back!

1 overnight stay?

what are you? Fucking Posh spice?

LOADS of room.

might be selling my 911 actually. Its had one careful owner... honest

probably keep it though.

Chip

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JJ toured all the way across Europe in his with his mrs, and Rachel isnt exactly the sort of bird who wears the same outfit for a week

danneth

carlo

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for me its a 2 horse race 996 turbo or E60 m5

Porkie

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why not a M6 over an M5?

to 99% of birds... an M5 is EXACTLY the same car as a 518d... eg its a up market Taxi or repmobile for area managers...

why not choose same car..... but in a sexier outfit?

carlo

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http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1422897.htm

carlo

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Im not the biggest fan of the 6 series although they drive great & m6's are fast ect. think they are a car you either love or hate the look of. Tremendous car for the money i can mind selling them in here new for 80k

It's Czech Mate

I have to say i am unaware how mental other folks wifes are but no way would I get my missis or any of her mates to get all their kit in a 911 for a weeks trip away, if other birds pack less stuff, i'm taking mine back for a refund

Mike C

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Who cares about that though?

Anyone who does buy a car for such purposes may just as well buy a basic E46 Convertible and spend the change on WKD and Rohypnol or whatever.

Chip

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Have you ever had a proper poke around a 911?
There is loads of room for packing clothes etc.

Porkie

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I would guess.... 75% of Porsche owners. 90% of ferrari owners and 99% of Lambo owners?

JonnyBravo

Porkie speaks sense, M6 would be a great choice, M5 does look like any M Tec kitted diesel unless you know what your looking at or its on full tilt.

GTR After reading Porkies Q&A's in Redline about his I think I'd steer well clear unless I had deep pockets.

VXR-8, FAST but as someone else said mentally expensive on repairs, I knew someone who got a crash damaged one and the wing was something like £1200 !! ouch

CSL or M6 although CSL has the M5 problem of just looking like a slightly kitted up diesel although we all know its much more than that, brakes are poor so expect to cough up £1500 the moment you buy one !

I do agree with whats been said about spending that sort of money on a car, you compared a new Focus RS to whatever you may buy but you are forgetting you are comparing a car that IS 30k new to a car that was double if not more than that new so you have to expect the running costs and repairs to be a LOT more, plus FRS is new, so proper warranty which you won't get on a used car, well not without paying for it !

Mike C

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and a very low percentage of M5 owners, who like the idea of supercar-esque performance in a discreet package.

Thus meaning the Petrolheads to Tossers ratio of M5 owners is vastly more favourable.