Am i turning into a thug???
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just read through it again it werent a chav you headbutted today was a older bloke who went boo
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your always getting shit with these chavs m8, what area in stoke-on-trent do you live in ? not your street, just the area. im in longton, and i never get any shit like you
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Kind of agree with chip , i like the fact you are standing up to the scummy bastards that make our steets unsafe but walking about giving ppl the severe malky isnt the way forward you will end up doing time & they wont. severe malky for all you southerners is what rab c nesbit calls it
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i dont get too much bother up norton, just the odd clown up hanley, or castle!! think you did the right thing warren, these fuckers as said before have got no morals!!!
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living where i do chavs are on most corners and shops, cant say ive had any trouble really but i wouldn't think twice about smashing there face against the pavement should they bother me in anyway
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Take it to the daily mail forums and see how much support you get there
You lump a group of people who look and act in a particular way under a label and it gives you the right to go round assaulting them? I Dont think you are helping anyone and certainly not yourself.
Sounds like your on the right track being back studying - keep clear of trouble, complete your education and move. Life's too short.
You lump a group of people who look and act in a particular way under a label and it gives you the right to go round assaulting them? I Dont think you are helping anyone and certainly not yourself.
Sounds like your on the right track being back studying - keep clear of trouble, complete your education and move. Life's too short.
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I was thinking the same, you are showing a judgemental side of your personality. IMO your attitude is as bad as a racist. Not all chavs are bad, infact WTF makes a chav. I know a few less fortunate people than me (incl. Danneth ) and they would do anything for you.
I think you need to get out more and become more of a people person. Or just get help full stop.
I think you need to get out more and become more of a people person. Or just get help full stop.
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I was thinking the same, you are showing a judgemental side of your personality. IMO your attitude is as bad as a racist. Not all chavs are bad, infact WTF makes a chav. I know a few less fortunate people than me (incl. Danneth ) and they would do anything for you.
I think you need to get out more and become more of a people person. Or just get help full stop.
I think you need to get out more and become more of a people person. Or just get help full stop.
#54
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I hate chavs. One was causing trouble outside CUBA one night in plymouth. He was shoulder barging everyone, with his hands in his coat pocket, proper swinging.
He did it to me eventually and it was like he hit a brick wall, i didnt move, just put my shoulders back and breathed in, and he fell over cheered my night right up.
He did it to me eventually and it was like he hit a brick wall, i didnt move, just put my shoulders back and breathed in, and he fell over cheered my night right up.
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i think your on the button m8 you have to stoop to there level for them to understand chavs piss me off they are only hard when there are 20 of them all on the superman cider and ur on your own
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It may not be very PC but I agree with the sentiment. If normal law-abiding members of the public a) see that the rules of society are failing them and b) have the opportunity to dish out summary justice and keep the moral high ground, then more and more people will start to hit back given the opportunity. I caught some neds breaking into my garden shed and chased them away. One of the neds had the cheek to return with the police and said he was hit on the face with a garden rake. I think the damage was caused by him running through a hedge to get away. The police agreed and dropped the complaint.
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I just don't get what you have gained from this?
the guy might of been exactly the same as you for all you, a student and a normal person. what you class as a chav and what others class as a chav would be totally different. i class chavs as harmless inbred people lol
Think you need to get a grip on things and get your jollies off doing something else instead of assaulting randoms
the guy might of been exactly the same as you for all you, a student and a normal person. what you class as a chav and what others class as a chav would be totally different. i class chavs as harmless inbred people lol
Think you need to get a grip on things and get your jollies off doing something else instead of assaulting randoms
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And for the record i see a shrink monthly and he thinks im fine well he doesnt know what hes doing but im on NHS now Like most the navy shrinks, he has an agenda and controls what is discussed in the sessions regardless of how i feel. Oh well all my money invested in NHS through NI payments is working hard
hey, he could be 20 and just looks 40 because of all the crystal meth and other drugs hes abused over the years
The drinking problem is so bad theyve had to extend the public drinking ban zone to include where i live . The CHAV family round the corner have a 13 year old son whose got an ASBO because he is an alcoholic and causes trouble when drunk
Im not a particular fan of the EMO trend, Goths, hippys etc as i dont get it, but you dont see me whinging about them or attacking them etc because they have NO impact on my life.
What they do in thier time, wear, do with thier mates etc is thier business.
However when a group of people or culture have a negative impact on my life then in my opinion i have EVERY right to be pissed off and in extreme cases take "direct action" against them.
The vast majority of people who look like and act likeCHAVs fit the stereotype!!!
If CHAVs got jobs, complied with the law, stopped antisocial behaviour, kept out of my life etc, then they can do what they want.
Sadly, they do often commit crime, antisocial behaviour, drain my hard earned taxes because of lazyness etc etc etc.
So therefore i am justified in the animosity towards them.
The CHAVs have bought the negative attitude by society at large upon themselves.
And sorry but them walking round street forcing people to walk in road and shoulder barging people, and screaming at them is hardly social behaviour is it???
Hell 20 years ago a copper wouldve beat shit out of some cunt doing that!!
I do not see why i should be intimidated. if that means i use excessive force then so be it.
I do get out loads and i am a people person Im out 4 nights a week helping mostly teens in trouble who more often than not come from deprived areas and many of them are victims to ASB etc.
And yes i do realise some youths go through a phase where they think its cool to act like a CHAV for attention etc. But like most things in life you have to take responsibility for your actions and if that means someone like me slaps a teen wannabe CHAV then so be it. Chances are he will learn his lesson.
Think of all these estates where people live in fear of little shits, dealers etc. Even some hard core drug gang cant murder a whole estate if people stand up for themselves
Most of these teen shits have grew up with no boundarys and hence no one stands up to them and teaches them thier behaviour has consequences. In a normal childhood you learn boundarys and consequences through pushing them, getting punnished etc. Obviously this doesnt happen for some kids hence their behaviour seen ALL over the UK. A slap here and there after they do antisocial behaviour is rough justice but would teach them the consequences of thier actions!! Harsh - yes! effective - yes!!
The sooner people stand up to them, the more chance of them learning appropriate behaviour before thier late teens/early 20s when its probably too late for them to change!!
your supposed to say "tw@t" so that your not technically swearing and hence can call anyone a tw@t and get away with it!!
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Anti social behaviour, vandalism, bullying, Muggings, shoplifting, verbal abuse etc is all harmless is it??
Not forgetting your taxs are paying for these peoples lifestyles.
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my sister inlaw lives in leek she was getting out of her car with my niece who was about 1&1/2 @ the time and a group of chaves/pikeys.....? pushed becky to the ground while she was still holding the baby making sure grace didnt get hurt she fell straight on her face and now becky has a scar on and above her top lip! SCUM!!!!!!
#72
if you had that sort of attitude in certain part of the uk such as liverpool and took on certain gangs that way tyou wouldent have a leg to stand on mate and you'd be terrorised, abused, propertey and belongins wrecked, yourself probabley harmed.
#73
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i would class a chav up to 20 if that, my god was i a chav today i went out in combats and a hoody?? and my god a single mother at that god you would of hated that toay...
i think the word chav is getting used way to much now,
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Chav (pronounced /tćv/ (CHAV)) is a term applied to certain young people in the United Kingdom. The stereotypical "chav"known also as a charver in Yorkshire and North East England[1]is an aggressive teenager, typically unemployed or of working class background,[2] who repeatedly engages in anti-social behaviour,[2] such as street drinking, drug abuse and rowdiness, or other forms of juvenile delinquency.
i would class a chav up to 20 if that, my god was i a chav today i went out in combats and a hoody?? and my god a single mother at that god you would of hated that toay...
i think the word chav is getting used way to much now,
i would class a chav up to 20 if that, my god was i a chav today i went out in combats and a hoody?? and my god a single mother at that god you would of hated that toay...
i think the word chav is getting used way to much now,
Only a joke
#75
T, young people doesnt work when there are plenty of older people who fit the stereotype like michael carroll.
Or do we just call grown up CHAVs scum instead???
If the cap fits
But seriously though, were you engaging in antisocial behaviour?? shop lifting?? crime?? I suspect not. Also do you believe the world owes you a living? Why work when the state will pay?? the police are picking on you? again i suspect not. So therefore your not a CHAV cos of what you wear.
Otherwise all people wearing "henleys" stuff would be called CHAVs
And did you get pregnant just to get a free house and life on benefits??? Again i think not, so your not a benefit scrounge either. So why would i hate you???
Sadly a lot of single mums get a raw deal in the media and public opinion because a significant minority who abuse the system and are of loose morals/virtue!!
Yes it probably is. Just like the word immigrant is used too much too when it comes to blaming problems in society.
But then as your definition eloquently demonstrates, if youths behave in that antisocial way then they WILL be labelled accordingly. Sure these days at a distance youd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a group of kids wearing hoodies (because its a youth fashion trend) and a group of CHAVs wearing hoodies. But youd soon know by thier behaviour.
Yes kids rebel when they become angry teens, thats normal. yes they try to shock and do extreme things eg silly trends like goth, emo, punk, disagreeing with everything parents saying etc
Now some people would argue that in our "liberal" society, what used to be considered normal teen behaviour doesnt shock or get the attention it used to, so as a result teens do more extreme things meaning thier behaviour is now far closer to the line of acceptable/.unacceptable and legal/illegal. But that doesnt mean we as a society have to accept unacceptable and illegal behaviour just because the demograph of teenagers has changed in the last 20 years. nevertheless knowing what ive explained above its obvious to see teen ASB is going to be a bigger problem. Doesnt mean we should accept it, but work towards changing the way our children grow up so that they can express themselves in other ways.
And thats ignoring the fact that there are more and more broken families with damaged/poor parenting models or plain neglect of parenting. Sadly the welfare state is partly to blame for allowing people to choose such a lifestyle and making it affordable.
Plus remember there will always be a small proportion of kids who end up bad regardless of parenting etc.
So its obvious where the problem comes from.
But the level of antisocial behaviour seen on our streets is getting MUCH worse not better than say 10/20 years ago and thats NOT acceptable.
Sure not all the kids are like that - and people need reminding of that.
But then a teenager who commits antisocial behaviour or crime to rebel as a teenager still needs punnishment just as much as a genuine CHAV teen who doesnt know any better or doesnt give a shit and does same wrong things.
Yes a lot of youths feel alienated but thats no excuse for the behaviour that a significant number of youths clearly do.
Or do we just call grown up CHAVs scum instead???
But seriously though, were you engaging in antisocial behaviour?? shop lifting?? crime?? I suspect not. Also do you believe the world owes you a living? Why work when the state will pay?? the police are picking on you? again i suspect not. So therefore your not a CHAV cos of what you wear.
Otherwise all people wearing "henleys" stuff would be called CHAVs
And did you get pregnant just to get a free house and life on benefits??? Again i think not, so your not a benefit scrounge either. So why would i hate you???
Sadly a lot of single mums get a raw deal in the media and public opinion because a significant minority who abuse the system and are of loose morals/virtue!!
Yes it probably is. Just like the word immigrant is used too much too when it comes to blaming problems in society.
But then as your definition eloquently demonstrates, if youths behave in that antisocial way then they WILL be labelled accordingly. Sure these days at a distance youd be hard pressed to tell the difference between a group of kids wearing hoodies (because its a youth fashion trend) and a group of CHAVs wearing hoodies. But youd soon know by thier behaviour.
Yes kids rebel when they become angry teens, thats normal. yes they try to shock and do extreme things eg silly trends like goth, emo, punk, disagreeing with everything parents saying etc
Now some people would argue that in our "liberal" society, what used to be considered normal teen behaviour doesnt shock or get the attention it used to, so as a result teens do more extreme things meaning thier behaviour is now far closer to the line of acceptable/.unacceptable and legal/illegal. But that doesnt mean we as a society have to accept unacceptable and illegal behaviour just because the demograph of teenagers has changed in the last 20 years. nevertheless knowing what ive explained above its obvious to see teen ASB is going to be a bigger problem. Doesnt mean we should accept it, but work towards changing the way our children grow up so that they can express themselves in other ways.
And thats ignoring the fact that there are more and more broken families with damaged/poor parenting models or plain neglect of parenting. Sadly the welfare state is partly to blame for allowing people to choose such a lifestyle and making it affordable.
Plus remember there will always be a small proportion of kids who end up bad regardless of parenting etc.
So its obvious where the problem comes from.
But the level of antisocial behaviour seen on our streets is getting MUCH worse not better than say 10/20 years ago and thats NOT acceptable.
Sure not all the kids are like that - and people need reminding of that.
But then a teenager who commits antisocial behaviour or crime to rebel as a teenager still needs punnishment just as much as a genuine CHAV teen who doesnt know any better or doesnt give a shit and does same wrong things.
Yes a lot of youths feel alienated but thats no excuse for the behaviour that a significant number of youths clearly do.
#76
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fair play mate, got to stand firm all the time give an inch and the cunts want to take the country let alone a mile. and prevention is always better then cure lol
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