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05-02-2010, 05:15 PM
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Im getting a new house in a couple weeks and i want to get spotlights put in straight away soon as i get te keys before i move stuff in so i want to get the lights so i have them already
My qusstion is how many spotlights do you think you would need in a rectangluar room 29 feet by 13 feet wide?
Thanks
My qusstion is how many spotlights do you think you would need in a rectangluar room 29 feet by 13 feet wide?
Thanks
05-02-2010, 05:20 PM
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There is no straight answer. Depends what the room is used for, furniture layout etc.
But fitting too many, and using a dimmer can make sense. Also, access may also dictate where and how many are fitted.
You can get low energy fittings that appear similar to the spots too, although they do require depth to install.
But fitting too many, and using a dimmer can make sense. Also, access may also dictate where and how many are fitted.
You can get low energy fittings that appear similar to the spots too, although they do require depth to install.
05-02-2010, 05:22 PM
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In my living room which is 6m x 4m we have 10 arranged in 4 rows.
3 | 2 | 3 | 2
All line up diagonally and were put in by a mate of mine. We have dimmable ones.
3 | 2 | 3 | 2
All line up diagonally and were put in by a mate of mine. We have dimmable ones.
05-02-2010, 05:28 PM
#4
Yeah I was thinking about low voltage dimable ones
It's for a living room / kitchen area
one problem might come up with layout of them is there is 2 smoke alarms on the ceiling too
basically at the min there us a light in the center with another light either side and the the smoke detectores are inbetween the middle light and the one next to it if that makes sense
It's for a living room / kitchen area
one problem might come up with layout of them is there is 2 smoke alarms on the ceiling too
basically at the min there us a light in the center with another light either side and the the smoke detectores are inbetween the middle light and the one next to it if that makes sense
05-02-2010, 05:34 PM
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Not unless the electrician is really really expensive lol
the developer wanted Ł70 per spot light
so that's why I'm doing them once I get the keys
tho I want to have lights sitting ready so soon as I get the keys he can start straight away
also getting spots in both bathrooms too but obv they will be differnt ones for above shower etc
the developer wanted Ł70 per spot light
so that's why I'm doing them once I get the keys
tho I want to have lights sitting ready so soon as I get the keys he can start straight away
also getting spots in both bathrooms too but obv they will be differnt ones for above shower etc
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05-02-2010, 05:39 PM
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70 quid a light isnt a bad price, my electrican charges 60per light but thats for a fire rated item of good quality and he also gaurentes it. By law your not allowed to touch this, bathroom ones need to be ip rated
05-02-2010, 05:41 PM
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It isnt so much quantity of fittings, as positioning. Position over worktops so there arent any shadows, same for tables etc. No real need for excessive amounts in other areas.
I fitted some of the 13w low energy ones over the desk in a Leisure centre, and they worked very well. I'd say that no, they arent as bright as the typical spot, but I'd say most of those are excessively glarey anyway.
I also think that the low voltage 12v/50W types are brighter than the G10 240v versions.
But different lamp designs can also affect that.
Trying to find a link to the low energy types, but cant find any. The ones I fitted used a 13W PL tube, mounted vertically downwards. So they only appeared to be circa 75mm diameter on the ceiling. Offered a more subtle light than conventional spots
I fitted some of the 13w low energy ones over the desk in a Leisure centre, and they worked very well. I'd say that no, they arent as bright as the typical spot, but I'd say most of those are excessively glarey anyway.
I also think that the low voltage 12v/50W types are brighter than the G10 240v versions.
But different lamp designs can also affect that.
Trying to find a link to the low energy types, but cant find any. The ones I fitted used a 13W PL tube, mounted vertically downwards. So they only appeared to be circa 75mm diameter on the ceiling. Offered a more subtle light than conventional spots
05-02-2010, 05:41 PM
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Ł70 per light each room ye, but you wouldn't go charging Ł70 per spot
05-02-2010, 05:43 PM
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It isnt so much quantity of fittings, as positioning. Position over worktops so there arent any shadows, same for tables etc. No real need for excessive amounts in other areas.
I fitted some of the 13w low energy ones over the desk in a Leisure centre, and they worked very well. I'd say that no, they arent as bright as the typical spot, but I'd say most of those are excessively glarey anyway.
I also think that the low voltage 12v/50W types are brighter than the G10 240v versions.
But different lamp designs can also affect that.
Trying to find a link to the low energy types, but cant find any. The ones I fitted used a 13W PL tube, mounted vertically downwards. So they only appeared to be circa 75mm diameter on the ceiling. Offered a more subtle light than conventional spots
I fitted some of the 13w low energy ones over the desk in a Leisure centre, and they worked very well. I'd say that no, they arent as bright as the typical spot, but I'd say most of those are excessively glarey anyway.
I also think that the low voltage 12v/50W types are brighter than the G10 240v versions.
But different lamp designs can also affect that.
Trying to find a link to the low energy types, but cant find any. The ones I fitted used a 13W PL tube, mounted vertically downwards. So they only appeared to be circa 75mm diameter on the ceiling. Offered a more subtle light than conventional spots
05-02-2010, 06:23 PM
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low voltage defo better than 240 v gu10 as much chrisper white light. led is defo gettin better but lamps are expensive if you want good light output. dont buy the Ł6 led lamps cause they are shit. only need fire rated caps for down lights with living accomodation above for building regs but we fit them as standard as better job with insulation etc. if you use these make sure you buy the heat down lamps or else you will burn the leads out over a period of time. Best way is labour and materials but will prob work out about Ł35-Ł40 per spot including materials. Dont buy that shit from screwfix
05-02-2010, 06:40 PM
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I was thinking of these for the living/kitchen
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
and these ones for the bathrooms
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
and these ones for the bathrooms
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65
05-02-2010, 06:48 PM
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[QUOTE=daviddunlop83;4703450]I was thinking of these for the living/kitchen
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
and these ones for the bathrooms
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65[/QUO
ip ratings determine there suitability for the area of use they are being fitted ie bathroom kitchens etc
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
and these ones for the bathrooms
http://www.robusdirect.com/catalogue...SP-13&catID=56
What is the IP rating mean? i See these have IP20 and ones for bathroom has IP65[/QUO
ip ratings determine there suitability for the area of use they are being fitted ie bathroom kitchens etc
05-02-2010, 06:58 PM
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Don't think that because you have a fully enclosed light (I guess you mean fire rated) that you can put loft insulation directly on top. You can't!!
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