bassboy

Hi guys, my Focus RS currently sits at the below spec;

2L 16v Zetec turbo
GT2876 turbo
22.6psi boost
K+N Gen 2 induction kit
Dreamscience Race+ map
Blueflame exhaust + decat
Blitz boost controller
Miltek exhaust manifold

On TOTD rollers it did 305hp but the fuelling was too rich which is effecting the power...

The next step up I can think of now is a custom remap...this comes down to the age long discussion of what management...

The cheapest options I have are;

Remap the existing DS unit - this option can be done at any DS specialist, however, will it be capable of powering the big turbo etc?

MSD custom remap - this means leaving the car with MSD and they will work on the standard ECU and map as best they can...again, will I get full potential out of the current spec with the standard ECU?

Omex 710 - Suggested by Chris and quoted £1800+vat drive in drive out conversion...fully mapped up etc etc...tuning options then become endless in theory...

Gotec - Unsure on which version but was looking at the Pro X i think it is? Unsure of price of that mapped as JS shop is down currently...

Autronic - Quite possibly the best out there...however, do I REALLY need to go this mad?? At £3k + VAT the last time I checked...the price is a bit out there! It wouldnt have been an issue if I didnt have other projects on the go to...

Future wise, maybe a set of steel rods and uprated pistons...maybe some headwork etc...maybe even a turbonetics T61 as I have one in the garage but thats only if I go crazy with the car...which at the moment, I dont see myself doing...

Thanks for any help and advice!

bassboy

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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id go for a stand alone ecu defiantly...theres some good ones out there at the mo and some as good as the autronics at less than half the price fitted and mapped...


cheers danny

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Custom remap is the cheapest option

bad boy rs

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depends on budget mate, im sure an msd map will be spot on

MikeR

Autronic is not that exspensive, also ask Mark Shead about Vipec, l am sure it will be respectably priced

Mike

Danny @ Enhanced Performance

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autronic is very good but well overpriced imo

cheers danny

simon170

I would have thought remapping the OE system would be the cheapest.

Chris installed and mapped the Omex 710 on my ST170 turbo, been mint for the last 4 years and never skipped a beat!

bassboy

Yes the cheapest option will be getting the standard management remapped, but im unsure whether that would be the best method for the application...thats my only concern with getting the standard management mapped up...Ive also heard that the limit for the standard management is around 360-370hp...

Does anyone have some input in regards to the Omex/DS/Gotech?

bassboy

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Sorry mate you are incorrect.

The management isnt the limiting factor, its everything else !

Roosie

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Emerald or MBE

bassboy

Just saying what I read on rsoc thats all mate

bassboy

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bassboy,
Sorry didnt mean to sound like I was talking down to you.. I am just a geek..lol

bassboy

LOL..no worries...So in your opinion...the management should be fine with a MSD map and should see us with 330+?

bassboy

rich123

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ive just had my saph in for its first mapp still need to go back for a couple of hours more but at the mo she's doing
13psi
230bhp at 4,900 revs
300flb at 3,500 revs
when i go back well put the psi up to around 20psi and see what we get and thats with a megasquirt v2 ecu only took around 3 hours to actually do the mapping on that day would have had it all done but due to minor wiring problems by myself that took up most of the day

dale at baileyperformance.com will fit and mapp for around 1,200 and that includes the ecu if that helps

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bassboy,

MSD (and specialist companies like them) can modify the standard managment fairly easily to suit most needs as long as the engine and its components are up to the job of course !

better the devil you know

Good to see you yesterday mate, let us know if we can be of any further help.
chris.

tabetha

Why do people equate a ecu with a certain amount of power ?, as said complete crap.
So long as the ecu, whatever one you buy does what you want, why pay just for a name ?
My car has aftermaket ecu Emerald K3, AND mapped for under £1K, a certain person who posts on here had his emerald mapped last year, and on only his 2nd race in his life set a new lap record for his class, nothing fancy just decent mapping, obviously he was a better driver than he thought!!
I would have a serious think about whether you want to go any further with mods, bearing in mind mapping costs where needed.
Just as an example Emerald charge a set rate of £280, for THREE maps, as the ecu supports it, but if you want one get on the oder list now as they can't get them fast enough!!
tabetha

Rick

I would keep the STD ECU, it's very powerful, and very refined. Kenny at MSD had a Focus RS so it's pretty well developed.

Rick

zetaboostboy522bhp

pectel t2 used on many high powered zetec turbos and the choice of ian howell and ahmed bayjoo and many motorsport teams.
ecu £650
custom harness £450
live mapping £250/300

cheers paul

Martin-Hadland

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That's the route I would go down, T2

aajbarker

I had the same problem with dreamscience ect...
mine got a primary designs ceramic coated manifold
gt28rs, uprated chargecooler rad, mongoose exhaust,
k&n with custon alloy air intake, uprated ngk plugs

yet would only make 280ish with the dreamscience and it was fuelling very poor. i then had to decide weather to get custom map or live map. i spoke to amd thurrok about custom maps and its really an off the shelf superchip which can be slightly modified but mostly guess work apperently!
wear as live mapping is all done in real time on the rolling road under different fuel loads engine speeds ect.. only prob is you cant live map a standard ecu.
The best thing for me to do was standalone but i used redline tuning in basildon essex and they said piggybacking the ecu with the dastec unichip Q+. this ecu is very clever, not only can it be live mapped but you can have up to 6 maps, it has capability of running up to 8 injectors, antilag, launch control, water injection ect. it is also adaptable to other cars so you can fit it to your work van or misses motor and 2 maps for each car.
I had the piggyback ecu fitted and have 2 live maps 1 is economy and make 270hp @ 10psi and the other is performance and makes 320.2hp @ 17psi with room for more power but i opted for keeping the boost down for traction reason. This was all done for £750 ish including vat and fuel and only took 2 days. hope this helps.

MikeR

What about Vipec?

Mike

Middo

I will have an Omex 710 pro for sale shortly. It had the comms lead, mapping software, data logging software and a loom.

Gordon1

can i ask why 710 and not the omex 600 as for a road car is just as good?
i have fitted and mapped both

Mark Shead

The Autronic and Vipec are cheaper than that but not as cheap as the others.

Mark

Middo

It was running a honda k20 for a while in my elise, not many ECUs can run the k20 properly. I 600 can't.

I am no real expert on ECU's but the 710 has better resolution over the emerald and the 600

Middo

Oh the 710 has full data logging too, it can be useful when you want to keep an eye on tuned engines and the effect on real world running mods are making.

GUZZLER

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we custom mapped another mk1 frs last week, 750cc injectors, GT28r etc... its having a front mount then coming back to be finished, should high 300's with a nice drive. we normally map them with S.C.T. software or dreamscience if the customer already has a box.
it would be worth tring a custom map first, we can do them for around £400, i don't think you would be dissapointed.

COCHYN

From my experiences with the Focus RS, don't believe the hype a lot of companies dish out about their products. Like the front mount intercoolers for example, mine were perfect and they seem to be flying off the shelf But it helps to listen to people who have wasted money, then gone the correct route after trial and error.

Speak with Rob Oldman and Ian Howell