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Old 09-01-2010 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
i think its bull tbh, 1120 whp must be over 1300 fwhp !
I could be horsepower at the crank i am not to sure about that.
Here is the same car but older video
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
lol yeah so they claim
They have run 9 second 1/4 mile passes and have you british done lately ?
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
i think its bull tbh, 1120 whp must be over 1300 fwhp !
I think that would be more like 1200 hp at the crank
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Originally Posted by bigchez
Fairplay it makes a shit load of peak power but nothing till 6k rpm? I reckon a well set up t34 car would give that a good run for its money on the street, drag strip would obv be very different.
It's setup for dragracing nothing else .
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Originally Posted by ajamesc
behind????? i thought we were at the front with the work julian godfrey and mark sheed do and have done lol and we have yet to see any of these foreign cars come over and prove there claims!
You uk lot first needs to learn have to run 9 second passes on the dragstrip if you uk lot can't do that shut the hell up and learn from others that are much further than you are.
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Originally Posted by Benni
Put this in a head-to-head with Rod's and I bet you'll find it doesn't have the power claimed.

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It would eat it on the 1/4 mile topspeed is for rod.
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Cant even hold the power

Yum would of kicked its arse,


Must been fun when it hit boost thou
I would kick your ass on the 1/4 mile
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Originally Posted by RS500
It would eat it on the 1/4 mile topspeed is for rod.
Why would it not compete with Rod's top speed? Has way more power... If Andrew Gallacher put NOS in his car, do you think there would be much in it 1/4 mile? He's already well in the 9's from memory.

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Originally Posted by Benni
Why would it not compete with Rod's top speed? Has way more power... If Andrew Gallacher put NOS in his car, do you think there would be much in it 1/4 mile? He's already well in the 9's from memory.

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Because i think that it's not geared for topspeed runs but for dragracing.
i think that i would a close race whit andy's ford focus cosworth.
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Shame he is selling it. I doubt we'll ever know.

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Originally Posted by RS500
Because i think that it's not geared for topspeed runs but for dragracing.
i think that i would a close race whit andy's ford focus cosworth.

A close race with andys car?

Andys car isnt short geared, isnt set up with drag suspension and has at least 400 to 500hp less???

Wouldnt it be much easier just to admit it obviously doesnt have the claimed power?
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we get the same old story in the starlet scene with the greek's, they seem to be able to get stupid power from turbo's that can never see any where near the power there running!!!! and quarter mile time's they dont makesense!!!!!
might have all that power but the pwoer band of 2k is piss poor
Old 09-01-2010 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by RS500
They have run 9 second 1/4 mile passes and have you british done lately ?
I'm sure the fastest YB cosworth powered dragster is a uk car!!!
This is from Julian Godfreys website:
2005 John Tebenham cosworth YB engine reach 7.7 seconds on a 1/4 mile drag race @ 170.5 miles an hours becoming the new world record for the fastest 4 cylinder YB cosworth engine.
2007 JOHN TEBENHAM (ENGLAND) – Cosworth YB Drag Engine - 863 Bhp & 620 Torque. Holding the World Record for Faster 4 Cylinder Engine. Our New latest Spec Wet Liner Engine.

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Old 09-01-2010 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RS500
I would kick your ass on the 1/4 mile



Yes you would, and more so now


Its powered by 4 tesco's pallet trolleys
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what do people think tuners in other country's do so much better than our tuners?
believe me they dont put real research money into these, they just bolt on bigger and bigger turbos lol
and if that graph is real, its going to be horrible to drive lol boost threshold is a little high
Old 09-01-2010 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by GARETH T
what do people think tuners in other country's do so much better than our tuners?
believe me they dont put real research money into these, they just bolt on bigger and bigger turbos lol
and if that graph is real, its going to be horrible to drive lol boost threshold is a little high
They dont do any better these engine are completely different not better.
They make everything as large as possible I know the cams Fenspeed use they run a pair we run one with our ports kept smaller & exhaust cam mild.
They run a much bigger Turbo that will easily puff the pressure but dont worry about the lag. That graph says 96 ron so they dont need the ignition we run so no head gasket probs.
I may lay that graph over mine then you will see just how big the compromise is.
That car must have at least a 7 speed box & be geared in the 160's if you lengthed the gearing by 35% to compete Topend with mine it would fall off the Power with each gear change. It would given a long enough straight pull to 220 with that Power, but down Brunters the Torque & continuous Power delivery of mine would beat it easily.
Its horses for courses.
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it all depends wot its built for, top speed or quaters really?or even track?
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Originally Posted by RS500
They have run 9 second 1/4 mile passes and have you british done lately ?
No RS dragcars over here that i know of try comparing it with Keiths Skyline who does take the dragstrip seriously.
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Originally Posted by MadRod
They dont do any better these engine are completely different not better.
They make everything as large as possible I know the cams Fenspeed use they run a pair we run one with our ports kept smaller & exhaust cam mild.
They run a much bigger Turbo that will easily puff the pressure but dont worry about the lag. That graph says 96 ron so they dont need the ignition we run so no head gasket probs.
I may lay that graph over mine then you will see just how big the compromise is.
That car must have at least a 7 speed box & be geared in the 160's if you lengthed the gearing by 35% to compete Topend with mine it would fall off the Power with each gear change. It would given a long enough straight pull to 220 with that Power, but down Brunters the Torque & continuous Power delivery of mine would beat it easily.
Its horses for courses.
i was trying to prove a point! they DONT do anything different! they dont really engineer these engines! they are just built for a number
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Anything with a decent powerband would murder that surely
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Originally Posted by RS500
You uk lot first needs to learn have to run 9 second passes on the dragstrip if you uk lot can't do that shut the hell up and learn from others that are much further than you are.
We were running 9.4's in the 90's with my mate jt's street/drag 105e ,and that

was with a piddly 535 bhp fom mountune on pump gas

I do however believe that methanol is the way to go with a full on drag spec

yb , and not even with a turbo

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Old 09-01-2010 | 12:35 PM
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the same car...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZqy7...eature=related

where did you find this graph.?this isn't from this car.
because i know the car's owner i will find a real power graph of the car and i will show it...
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Originally Posted by RS500
You uk lot first needs to learn have to run 9 second passes on the dragstrip if you uk lot can't do that shut the hell up and learn from others that are much further than you are.
but the vid u picked shows the car on the road not on the drag strip on the road that car would be shit and left by cars with half its powergoing by that graph!

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Random guess as I don't know, but if it don't make power till 6k.. What does he launch it at on the ź mile?

Its built for drag, so why are people putting it down in other areas.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Random guess as I don't know, but if it don't make power till 6k.. What does he launch it at on the ź mile?

Its built for drag, so why are people putting it down in other areas.
im not putting it down as a drag car its a serious bit of kit im just saying i dont think the people abroad are as good at building very fast road cosworths as us and vid he used to show it was as a road car not a drag car!

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Originally Posted by Ollie.
A close race with andys car?

Andys car isnt short geared, isnt set up with drag suspension and has at least 400 to 500hp less???

Wouldnt it be much easier just to admit it obviously doesnt have the claimed power?

Come on RS500 answer my post
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Hi I don't know much about that car but I knew I similar one owned by a guy called "Tsakanikas" (here is a 9.7sec run):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QET1dbkB0E&feature=related

That car is 1150bhp and I can assure you that it is true over 1000bhp... The redline of that YB was 10800RPM!!! It is the car with the light green cover engine and the turbine located just behind the front bumper... That car was having huge traction problem in 1st and 2nd gears and the first 18meters of the run was coming at 1,6-1,7 seconds but the full 400meters run was coming at 9,7 seconds with a speed of 250km/h. with better traction it would be quite faster...
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Interesting thread keep them coming.
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Yes you would, and more so now


Its powered by 4 tesco's pallet trolleys
Ssst don't tell anyone it has some secret stickers and it has the nos man it will do warp speed 11 and it will be in a diffrent demension when i fire up the nos man.

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Originally Posted by MadRod
No RS dragcars over here that i know of try comparing it with Keiths Skyline who does take the dragstrip seriously.
ok
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Come on RS500 answer my post
I would love to see that as a race and i guess we prove or disprove his powerclaim based on the 1/4 mile and trapspeed.

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Originally Posted by gaz_turbo1
we get the same old story in the starlet scene with the greek's, they seem to be able to get stupid power from turbo's that can never see any where near the power there running!!!! and quarter mile time's they dont makesense!!!!!
might have all that power but the pwoer band of 2k is piss poor
A dragrace engine is setup for max torque and proper because it's need to 1/4 mile as quicky as possible and they don't give a fuck about low rpm engine power.
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Yes you would, and more so now


Its powered by 4 tesco's pallet trolleys
I meant the greek cossie would kick your ass in the 1/4 mile
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Originally Posted by RS500
I would love to see that as a race and i guess we prove or disprove his powerclaim based on the 1/4 mile and trapspeed.

Who needs to see them both race? A 1/4 mile is a 1/4 mile. Both do similar times and the escort is set up more to be a drag car but yet has supposedly 400-500hp more? No chance mate. The facts speak for themselves.
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Who needs to see them both race? A 1/4 mile is a 1/4 mile. Both do similar times and the escort is set up more to be a drag car but yet has supposedly 400-500hp more? No chance mate. The facts speak for themselves.
It's runs on metanol anything is possible whit that kind of fuel so 400-500 hp is possible on metanol.
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Originally Posted by RS500
It's runs on metanol anything is possible whit that kind of fuel so 400-500 hp is possible on metanol.
This is not what Ollie is asking. He's asking how can it have so much more power and yet be 'close' in a race? If it had the claimed power it wouldn't be close at all. The only real answer is, it can't.

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Originally Posted by RS500
I think that would be more like 1200 hp at the crank
never 5% drivetrain loss no way.
Old 10-01-2010 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
never 5% drivetrain loss no way.
To tell you truth i don't kown what the drivetrain loss on the greek escoirt
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Right now in Greece we have 3 very powerful Cossies!

one is the subject Escort, which runs on methanol but still needs some sorting out...When it is completed it should be quite fast...





there is another one blue escort cosworth, from another shop. in street form (full interior, drag radials, etc) has ran a 9.4 on racegas... He converted to methanol too on a completely different setup... He is much lighter than the 9.4 sec and makes much more power... it should go in the 8s for 2010...







the new setup
















The third one is the white 3dr which has been featured in either Fast Ford or Performance Ford... i dont remember... Its a true daily driver, with over 1000 bhp, has ran 9.8 @ 248 km in full trim on street tires, etc... Skyline gearbox, GT42RS turbo, Autronic ecu, etc...









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well iv just spent a few mins reading thru this thread and i must say its a very interesting read keep em coming



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