http://www.metro.co.uk/news/806164-j...knife-intruder

Serves the cunt right, if someone did that to my family Id do the same, cant believe they got jailed for it, so what if it was an over the top reprisal, if there were a few more people prepared to stand up for themselves this country would be in a better place. IMHO
I realise the courts had to act, but a suspended sentance would have been more appropriate as these people represent no threat to anyone other than other burglers, its not in the public interest to lock them up!

Views?

 

Fcuk sake I would ahve done the same,seems britain it pays to commit crime

 

Fucking disgusting! I would love to shake their hands. I hope even the jail time wouldnt stop them doing it again as in my eyes they did the right thing.

 

Personally I think that if someone comes in your home you should have the right to attacked and kill that person.

 

exactly matt

tbh america has the right view on things, someone comes onto your property without your consent you are within your rights to act accordinly to defend that property if the person causes a threat to you/or your families life... but if we say so in public we're criticised for being to "extreme" nothing in my view is too extreme to defend and protect my family or posessions tbh.

someone comes at my family with a knife i wouldnt think twice on using it against them and pay the time tbh!

that fact that this person is walking free while the defender of his home is in jail just shows how fucking crooked this system is!!!

 

You do have rights here to defend yourself, just not to chase someone down the street and beat them till they have brain damage.

The courts HAD to punish the people in question, they did go over the top, but like I said, a suspended sentance would have been more appropriate as I dont beleive they are a threat to any law abiding member of society anyway.

 

Was just reading this in The Sun, they chased after him with a cricket bat and metal pole and battered him till he was brain damaged, good on them!

 

chip i know where your coming from mate, but last night someone in my street had their home broken into, i fired accross to see what was going on and if they were ok as theyve not been too well with terminal illness, and the person said was being loaded into a police van for pushing the burglar back down the stairs after trying to knife him! burglar is being cautioned for "attempted" assault and will probably be let free with a fine,

this guy on the other hand is awaiting court because he defended himself and his 3 year old kid who was sleeping and thought of his son before him.

over the top - maybe

would you have done the same in his shoes? i think most of us would have really.

its true yes people have to be punished for doing wrong, maybe it is OTT chasing him down etc, but i know i wouldnt be letting someone get away with breaking into my home regardless of how long it took me to get them or where.

 

I read this today too, broke the cricket bat FFS

Did you see the other one about the poor girl at the go karting track? Was wearing a scarf which went round the engine/wheel and strangled her to death.

 

If someone came into my house and told me they were gonna kill me my mrs or my daughter he wouldn't have brain damage - he'd be fed to the fucking pigs

i'm happy to do the time of it means my family are protected

Plus they wouldn't get near us anyway



420ish FPS and legal!! 8 shots as fast as you can pull the trigger - just one of these is enough to stop anyone at close range let alone 8!

 

airsoft weapon?

if so i actually do airsoft, did you have to put away for your firearms licence for the legality to hold this weapon in home?

 

I'm made up the guy has brain damage. I hope he's nothing more than a vegetable for the rest of his life. Shame the people went to jail, it wasn't fair really. As far as I'm concerened, if someone has the audacity to come into your home and threaten to kill your precious family, the law shouldn't come into it.

Benni.

 

Whats the betting the burglar will put in some form of compensation like the theifs that Tony Martin shot. Burgal someone's house, get caught, get injured and then sue for loss of earnings (win win). What bloody earnings. "i can't break into anyone's house anymore because last time i did i got walloped and now i can't pick locks..."

 

Airsoft doesnt require a license, as long as your shooting in/on private land your fine.

 

i have the licence just in case up here mate ive been caught out a couple times with transporting my gear to and from the site we use for it, police are always dodgy about it so i got the licence just in case and ive been held a couple times due to this not being clear to some officers up here, since then theyve been fine with me carrying them in the back of the motor in cases so theyre not on display etc....

 

the only thing they did wrong was not to bury the body

although the judge did point out that he was jailing him to deter others from doing the same thing and that the law should be on hnad to deal with this sort of thing

if the law was going to deal with this sort of thing then i don't think anyone would have done what these guys did, but as long as the law takes too long to catch the crims, and then lets them go to do more criminal stuff, then the law needs all the ehlp it can get

i wonder what they would have done if they'd caught my old man running down the road after a bruglaer in his boxers wielding a big fuck off meat cleaver in his hands shouting at the top of his voice?

and, this is a tale i think i've told before, some bloke u pthe road had a bit of an altercation with his future ex son in law when his daughter bought him around to say hello

ended up that he'd kicked off about soemthing and, in the ensuing melee, he got hurt and ran off banging on doors and stuff

remember going to cuort as he left some bloody handprints on our door and was cowering in our flowerbeds before the ambulance arrived along with the police

but seeing as i explained that he'd simply been surrounded by a lot of angry peole, but no one had touched him, no one got into any trouble over it on the day of reckoning

but he got what he deeserved, brown pants time when it came to it so alls well that ends well

i'm not even going to comment on what people have done to get even with crims who have caused them misery, don't do the crime if you can't do the time

 

Burglars put themselves outside the law, so should not be protected by it.
If they didn't come into your home, wouldn't be exposed to being beaten or killed.
Let homeowners dish out their own justice, a few may think twice before entering your home then.

 

30 months is not a bad price to pay to save my family from harm.

Did they go too far? Sure. Were they justified? That's the question being asked I guess.

Once I was driving along with 2 female friends in my old volvo 242 GT. City driving. This guy steps off the curb and runs in front of my car and I honk - narrowly missing him. About 50m up the road I come to a stop. It's summer, moonroof open. The guy walks up and punches me through the moonroof. Neutral, handbrake... door open. I run after the guy and he runs into a telegraph pole and I land a few on him. He then runs back towards my car (but not to steal it) to get away. I was stopped right beside a pizza take away and their delivery car was parked right out front. I tackled the guy right on the bonnet and proceeded to just SAVAGE him. Then I just sorta woke up, shook my head and looked down at this poor guy I was pummeling. I dropped him, got in the car and drove away. My two friends were dumbfounded for weeks.

Point? At some point these men should have stopped and tied the bastard up and washed their hands of him. A couple whacks of the bat and a kick in the ribs and the police would have given them a stern lecture. It's the brain injury that is the kicker.

 

120 years ago in this country (Canada) that would have been the norm. And I would have done it without question. Maybe 70 years in the rural parts...

Last time I checked burglary nor keeping someone against their will was not a capital offense in the western world.

If it was me that 56 year old freak would have been stripped naked and zip tied to a pole somewhere really cold. With a brain injury there is no lesson to be learned - he's most likely a vegetable or a very simple child now.

 

Its pretty obvious they got custodial as the courts have to be seen to stamp down on excessive force. Its the same with vigilante attacks.

Plus i suspect the guy locked up had no previous so often they are harsh to discourage people doing more crime.

The system is a joke though.

You just know the burglar/kidnapper got let off with supervision order because hes a career criminal so "just" locking him up doesnt achieve anything so they wont do it. Youd be surprised how many crims they let out on supervision because they can keep a closer eye on thier behaviour, make more demands of them rehab wise etc where as if they just lock them up, apparently the statistics say it makes no difference so why lock them up!!!

Personally i think as soon as the scum cunt threatened to kill someone (and was armed as he was) then IMO you should be fully justified in using upto lethal force to defend yourself, after all there is a threat to your life (or someone elses for he purpose of collective self defence).

The law is pathetic.

Unless your aiming at head or neck then youve got no chance of taking down someone with an air pistol. Youd have to get them in eye or jugular or maybe knock them out with the impact shock on skull. Otherwise a burglar whos high on adrenaline wont be stopped by a air pistol. If hes on drugs too its even worse.

Sure he will eventually drop due to blood loss but he will have had time to stick a knife in you by then

Theyd still get done for that these days.

 

Lesson learned here: Don't mess with brown guys.

 

There quite weighty too, a well landed throw might take them down if your shots don't.

 

Its just disgusting that you cant defend yourself any more, even i was told by police officers when i was in court earlier this year as a victim that the "self defence" term doesn't exist in the eyes of the law....so its all bollox

x

 

Thats not true at all, you are allowed to use reasonable force to defend yourself.

But chasing someone down the street in a mob then beating him with a cricket bat until you break the bat is clearly not defending yourself as you arent under any threat as you are chasing after them in the first place.

 

Im only quoting what i was told when i was in court earlier this year! The british justice system is fucked up!!! end of!! come off the bird who was up in court in this instance who had threatened me with a loaded cross bow got 60 hours community service, and no costs!!!!

They said that a loaded crossbow in a residential street being pointed in the direction of someone is not and i repeat NOT an offensive weapon

so the message that the british justice system is giving out is "Dont carry a knife or a gun, carry a loaded crossbow instead"

x

 

Let's hope "English common law" doesn't become more common over here...

You break into my garage or my house and the gloves are off. Accuse me of stealing? Rip me off? The gloves are off too.

 

I saw this too.

Do you think if there was more deterrents it would stop knife crime/thefts?

ie hanging/death sentence/life imprisonment-(i mean life)

 

Shame they got that long of a term, as said though they did go a little OTT.

Such a shame rapists/paedo's and the likes get less for alot worse crime.

How about the youg lad who trespassed and then fell 50ft, he got 1k compo and the owner of the land got fined 10k

 

i believe the law states you can do whatever necersary if a burgler goes up your stares (dates back to castles) as if your family are in the house the burgler can be deemed as going upstairs to do more than just rob you.

regardless i wouldnt have stopped untill he was out cold and then some.

 

i dissagree, he came into the house with a knife and imo with the intention of using it to kill, the odds were then changed so they went after him to do what he would have done to them.

like i have always said, if someone comes after me with a knife they better get it right, as il only use it on them. try to kill me/my family and fail then il kill them...simples.

 

I don't think it's right to smash someone's head in for breaking into your house. Especially once they are clearly not a threat to you and are halfway down the road running away in fear. That's the time to put down the bat and call the police. As soon as you engage in the beating you lower yourself to the level of an aggressive thug.

Charlie

 

i just think the bottom line is... if he didnt do the crime in the first place... he wouldnt of been put in a veggie state. simples.

 

USA has death pentalty and FAR more violent crime than us.
So its certainly not a magic answer

 

Call the police?

They wanted the fellow made to regret what he did, and to stop him being a threat for doing it again, they didnt just want a crime reference number so what good would calling the police have done?

 

plus im sure he has had 50 odd convictions before or something? so he didnt learn till now

 

At the end of the day the guy was protecting his home and family...yeah maybe he went too far in the end, but i suppose the thought of his family being hurt or killed kinda blurred his vision in what he ended up doin in the end, ya know people "see red" and nothing u do will change that until they have done what they needed to.....

No one can say how they would feel or what they would do if they were put in the quoted situation.....unless they have been in that situation....we can all say ... we would do this, and i would do that, and then id do that but in reality who knows until your faced with that?!?!?!

It's not right that anyone should be able to enter your home, and make you feel at threat without being able to "by law" protect yourself, your husband/wife/kids/etc etc as i said in my previous posts the british justice system is not really there for the victims anymore...its all about human rights, but as always its human rights for those who are commiting the crimes, and those who are already convicted...just winds me up that the people who are being intruded upon are not given any rights to protect themselves and what is theres....anyway rant over carry on!!! Lol

x