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Old 10-12-2009, 09:49 PM
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I've recently got an RS Turbo thats been registered Cat C. My question is how much can I get away with modifiying it before they'd want to register it on a Q plate when it gets tested? I've got a different engine to go in it but I'm not sure how much I can change on the car. Any info will be great.
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Why would they want to register it on a Q? Cat C cars only need a VIC check and all they do is check the cars identity, we have took them before and they havnt even checked the engine number.
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it wont get put on a q from a vic ever
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as above
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fair enough!!! cheers. can get on modifying it then!!
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Originally Posted by paul16v
Why would they want to register it on a Q? Cat C cars only need a VIC check and all they do is check the cars identity, we have took them before and they havnt even checked the engine number.
I was just wondering how much you could change before it's identity would come into question. Thats why I asked, just wanted to check. Cheers.
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dvla deal with licensing and regestration

vosa deal with the actual vehicles,

your car has been advised to dvla by the insurer that its cat c, so dvla put a vic marker against the vehicle log and withdraw the v5.

to get a new v5,

vosa complete a vic test (cant tell you whats involved by law) but the question they answer simply is..
is this the same vehicle...yes or no.

if yes, vosa remove vic marker, dvla then re issue v5 on original no plate,

if no, police take car for investigation, then normally realise its ok and dvla then issue v5 on original no plate,
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Cheers.
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Q plate is rebuild correct? What is a cat +c?
Old 10-12-2009, 11:03 PM
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my xr2i was cat c and vic checked thats all they done mate the let me have it back with a bent drivers front chassis leg the wheel was no longer central and that was after repairs lol
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vosa dont check to see if its roadworthy or the quality of the repair they check the numbers in the car they also check to see if it been repaired with stolen parts
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ahhh right sounds more like it i only had it on the road a week or so and it wasnt drieable so stripped it for parts vic check cost about 75 quid too iirc
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Originally Posted by thepintoman1
vosa dont check to see if its roadworthy or the quality of the repair they check the numbers in the car they also check to see if it been repaired with stolen parts
to a point your correct, although it could still be issued with a prohibition if the tester felt it necessary
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and if you want to remove the vic marker on the logbook put a private plate ont he car and it never comes back, not even if you take the plate off and it goes back to the reg, gone forever
Old 11-12-2009, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by utternutter
and if you want to remove the vic marker on the logbook put a private plate ont he car and it never comes back, not even if you take the plate off and it goes back to the reg, gone forever
Is this true????????
Old 11-12-2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattie
Is this true????????

Absolute fucking garbage!!!




The dont ever Q plate cars anymore btw. Stopped years ago.
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yep that is total garbage, dvla transfer all vehicle records when doing a cherished transfer,
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Originally Posted by Ollie.
Absolute fucking garbage!!!




The dont ever Q plate cars anymore btw. Stopped years ago.

they still do the Q plates as i just been inquiring about re-shelling a car ?? to keep a cherished plate

and if the car fails a vic then it needs to go and have a sva then it would be put on a Q plate

if vic goes ok then it goes on original plate

police only seize vehicle if they have interest in its id i.e. if they think the i.d. or parts used are stolen ones

the only thing you can't cant is the chassis if this is changed then the car will go on a Q plate
Old 11-12-2009, 12:55 PM
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Slight thread hijack - when you have to re register a Cat C car, do you do the MoT first, then the VIC, or the other way around?
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no particular way, but its advised its mot`d first
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i would mot first as the vic is a through mot as well as checking id etc so if its mot'd and you get adviserys then gives you chance to get these sorted before vic too
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Q plates are for cars that have no identity stolen recovered that have had a id change and the original id can not be sorced or found,plus kit cars,reshells can be registered on the original plate if you can prove you used 60% of the original cars parts,a vic check is to confirm the cars id has not been changed,ie if a cat c car has been repaired and is not a ringer if your car fails you dont see it again until the police have found out if it is a ringer that is why they take the car from you for the check so you dont know where it is
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is it fuck garbage, last year i bought a cat c golf turbo, vic'd it taxed it then went to dvla and put my plate onto it, logbbok was clear, a few months later i took plate off and it went back onto origional reg, v5 came back clear


two months ago i bought a cat c bmw 320d, done it again, its sat on my driveway now with my private plate on it and the v5 is clear

ive been doing this for years with my own cars, my friends have done that same




i can 100 percent say its true
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Originally Posted by utternutter
i can 100 percent say its true
Surely the VIC removes the 'marker' from your V5, not the plate swapping??
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its jujst the way it happens i spose, i only found it out by accident, its not really worth doing to be honest if your selling them on but if you keep a car for say good few months which i do for the wife its worth it, the cars still on hpi of course but the vic extensively damaged repaired marker vanishes which helps.
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Originally Posted by utternutter
its jujst the way it happens i spose, i only found it out by accident, its not really worth doing to be honest if your selling them on but if you keep a car for say good few months which i do for the wife its worth it, the cars still on hpi of course but the vic extensively damaged repaired marker vanishes which helps.
Don't understand what you've 'found out' though? The Cat C status stays on your V5 until the VIC removes it. The plate swapping does nothing surely?
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the vic does not rtemove the marker the vic puts it on there, and you have to have a vic to get a v5
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Originally Posted by utternutter
the vic does not rtemove the marker the vic puts it on there, and you have to have a vic to get a v5
No mate, someone's been telling you porkies. The insurance company informs the DVLA who apply the marker. The VIC marker is removed once the car passes a VIC!
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Originally Posted by cossiejay
Q plates are for cars that have no identity stolen recovered that have had a id change and the original id can not be sorced or found,plus kit cars,reshells can be registered on the original plate if you can prove you used 60% of the original cars parts,a vic check is to confirm the cars id has not been changed,ie if a cat c car has been repaired and is not a ringer if your car fails you dont see it again until the police have found out if it is a ringer that is why they take the car from you for the check so you dont know where it is
on a reshell you only keep original reg only if a brand new shell or original shell used as i have enquired today about it otherwise it becomes a q plate or so dvla told me today so unless your above the dvla which i think not or know of a loop hole please explain this
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having worked for vosa and completed hundreds of vic tests, i can assure you that dvla issue a vic marker when the insurance company inform them it has been put in a write off class.

a v5 will not be issued with a vic marker against the car.

just like a v5 will not be issued with a cod marker against a car
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yes but once you have the vic the marker is on the v5, supposidly for life and its a horrible thing to have wrote ont he bottom of a logbook


lasty year i personally vic'd 30 cars that i had repaired. i know the system mate, its a hard game too at the mo

the ones i keep for us to use as family wagon are normally worth 5k ish so its worth paying to transfer my plate onto it and the logbook comes back clear

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Originally Posted by utternutter
yes but once you have the vic the marker is on the v5, supposidly for life and its a horrible thing to have wrote ont he bottom of a logbook
According to the DVLA the marker is removed when you pass the VIC. Are you saying otherwise?
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i think were getting confused, once the car is awrote off insurance comapnys tell dvla, who then will not release a v5 untill a vic test has been comepleted



then when you get your logboog wrote on the bottom is vic tested on such and such vehicle extensively damaged repaired



once i put my p plate on it never comes back it vanishes
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Originally Posted by utternutter
yes but once you have the vic the marker is on the v5, supposidly for life and its a horrible thing to have wrote ont he bottom of a logbook


lasty year i personally vic'd 30 cars that i had repaired. i know the system mate, its a hard game too at the mo

the ones i keep for us to use as family wagon are normally worth 5k ish so its worth paying to transfer my plate onto it and the logbook comes back clear
that isnt the vic marker on the v5, the marker is an electronic tag on the vehicle identity database
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oh and on aother note at the mo there slack as hell, ill pick up a car cat c repair it phone for a vic enquirey and there no marker, i hpi it and the cars clear, so i just send of a v62 and logbook comes


i got two corsas on my drive that are cat c and ive got a logbook and one month after buying there still hpi clear
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Originally Posted by utternutter
oh and on aother note at the mo there slack as hell, ill pick up a car cat c repair it phone for a vic enquirey and there no marker, i hpi it and the cars clear, so i just send of a v62 and logbook comes


i got two corsas on my drive that are cat c and ive got a logbook and one month after buying there still hpi clear
the system sometimes is slow to work,

but you will have to tax it again, which the system will not allow as it will still have a marker against it, up to a year is quite normall for markers to be on there. it is a closed loop

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yea realise that but its wrong, most can resell a car as hpi clear and its not

my mate bought a cat d 2002 evo 7, hes had it 4 months and its still hpi clear !!!!!


in regards to removing the nasty writing on the v5 it does work
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Originally Posted by utternutter
oh and on aother note at the mo there slack as hell, ill pick up a car cat c repair it phone for a vic enquirey and there no marker, i hpi it and the cars clear, so i just send of a v62 and logbook comes
Remind me never to buy a car from you
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and ANPR cameras will pick up vic marked vehicles

we used to get quite a few who were picked up and escorted to us lol

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pmsl jesus, ive also bought cat c cars of people with the logbbok, motd the car taxed the car and only a few months later when i want a v5 have i had to vic it


mother in law for example car got wrote off cat c, the let her keep it i repred it she gave it to her son, sent off logbook and they said needs vic, that was a year ago we are still taxing it and using it everyday


its not that bad and nothing is mentioned when taxing it or by the plod, its purely a v5 marker


i also buy cat c cars for example, these days they come with roadtax, so i mot them and use them for a couple months or lend them to family etc if there int he shit, its not illegal to use the car if it needs a vic


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