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Old 09-12-2009, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
see my original plan was to start of at 5k changes and slowly work my way up lol!
Old 09-12-2009, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

sometimes i get the feeling your mocking me james
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
if it scares me i,ll sell it...

new you would.....

I,ll swap you....
Old 09-12-2009, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments

its ok james i know you love me really!specially as i send lots of specials pm's,which i know you have grown fond off
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
new you would.....

I,ll swap you....

i know exactly whats going to happen the first time i use her proper!going to end up facing the wrong way before i know whats happenedhence the wide road part lol!

You would never part with ya gorgeous 3 door pete!specially once ya get the wheels on her
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Originally Posted by mechanic28

You would never part with ya gorgeous 3 door pete!specially once ya get the wheels on her


I would for yours Doug, nearly did with Adrian but it never happened...

I need power...
Old 09-12-2009, 09:40 PM
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its mine!
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MORE power Pete lol.
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
I would for yours Doug, nearly did with Adrian but it never happened...

I need power...
Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
its mine!

Whos taking me out for dinner first then?
Old 09-12-2009, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.
I would for yours Doug, nearly did with Adrian but it never happened...

I need power...

Yours is the perfect road car spec tho!you would eat me in the real world on the road(short sprints etc!)
Old 09-12-2009, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
Whos taking me out for dinner first then?
have you got a dyno or r/r run for your engine mate ?
Old 09-12-2009, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
MORE power Pete lol.
Dave, you know me....




Originally Posted by mechanic28
Whos taking me out for dinner first then?

Do you like McDonalds Doug??
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
have you got a dyno or r/r run for your engine mate ?
Don,t think he has, BUT i know when Adrian had it Stu peaked it @ 37psi so it,s not 400bhp...
Old 09-12-2009, 09:48 PM
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Hi guys. i am runing rb t4, 8 greens & mongoose, car has lots more low down torque but seemed there was more power at 7000 rpm on old t38 but this was using ggr exhaust which was huge downpipe and the last 6550- 7200 it reved like fook 4wd wheel spin no probs.

Is this down to exhaust as heard it needs to be large for big power but anti lag blew the as out of it, sounded awsum for 5 mins then did your head in like been clubin allnight.

What cams does everyone think best as just want the car to be quick like big torque not chasin bhp and want it faster than mates evo cause thats on boost just right for road drivin. heard standard exhaust cam was best?
Old 09-12-2009, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
have you got a dyno or r/r run for your engine mate ?

i have not had it done mate,not until its all been set up and checked over etc!

Richard/adrian had her on the rollers made 426bhp i think but the actuator was fecked was only hitting 26psi,now hits 37psi and holds 32 so its got to be around the 500 figure i would say
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we had a very similar spec motor in another 3dr which made 520
Old 09-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Staffi.







Do you like McDonalds Doug??


Can i have a milkshake with my meal?
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Originally Posted by cossie col
Hi guys. i am runing rb t4, 8 greens & mongoose, car has lots more low down torque but seemed there was more power at 7000 rpm on old t38 but this was using ggr exhaust which was huge downpipe and the last 6550- 7200 it reved like fook 4wd wheel spin no probs.

Is this down to exhaust as heard it needs to be large for big power but anti lag blew the as out of it, sounded awsum for 5 mins then did your head in like been clubin allnight.

What cams does everyone think best as just want the car to be quick like big torque not chasin bhp and want it faster than mates evo cause thats on boost just right for road drivin. heard standard exhaust cam was best?

i am running bd14 exhaust and bd 16 inlet,well i presume thats the way round they are lol!
Old 09-12-2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
i have not had it done mate,not until its all been set up and checked over etc!

Richard/adrian had her on the rollers made 426bhp i think but the actuator was fecked was only hitting 26psi,now hits 37psi and holds 32 so its got to be around the 500 figure i would say
a t4 is very efficeient at lower boost levels, another 6 held psi on that and id say its running 470 really, if you sit on the dyno and watch a t4 engine and go to 26 psi and it says 470ish hp and think shit this engines on a mission ! put another 5-6 psi in and it goes 510-520, really dont climb as you would expect, be interesting to see what yours makes on the rollers

jim
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
a t4 is very efficeient at lower boost levels, another 6 held psi on that and id say its running 470 really, if you sit on the dyno and watch a t4 engine and go to 26 psi and it says 470ish hp and think shit this engines on a mission ! put another 5-6 psi in and it goes 510-520, really dont climb as you would expect, be interesting to see what yours makes on the rollers

jim

one day i might have the bottle to let someone rev the bolocks out of it on a set lol!although its nearly the same spec as touring car etc and they are 2 br of boost and over 500bhp!well it has touring car spec head lol!

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my car is 500bhp t4 powered and runs out of puff at just under 8k at the point of changing gear .
Old 09-12-2009, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
one day i might have the bottle to let someone rev the bolocks out of it on a set lol!although its nearly the same spec as touring car etc and they are 2 br of boost and over 500bhp!well it has touring car spec head lol!
youve gotta be 500 + mate i was on bd14s and very mildly worked head and made 472 at 7800 still climbing when it hit the limiter. youve got a bigger port and higher lift and 200 more revs should piss 500 imo, are you on .63 rear housing ? mine was, watch exhaust temps i saw 980 c a couple of times in the downpipe after top speed runs 170 + !
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
youve gotta be 500 + mate i was on bd14s and very mildly worked head and made 472 at 7800 still climbing when it hit the limiter. youve got a bigger port and higher lift and 200 more revs should piss 500 imo, are you on .63 rear housing ? mine was, watch exhaust temps i saw 980 c a couple of times in the downpipe after top speed runs 170 + !

not sure on the housing fella!presume its rs500spec its got 247 shaft etc to handle the ac/lc
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
not sure on the housing fella!presume its rs500spec its got 247 shaft etc to handle the ac/lc

whats that air con and light controls
Old 09-12-2009, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
whats that air con and light controls

yer its one of 3 that come with ac!its also got anti lag and launch control
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Turbo is not the prob with high egt's, it's the exhaust valves melting!
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
5500 rpm to 7800 rpm was where it was at in my old t4 saph after stu mapped it to 2.2 bar. was relentless up in those revs. not 500 bhp i know but not far of peak power and the most achieveable without selling some organs
I love big rpm turbo motors, its where its at I reckon!

My nova pulls well to 8300rpm and I go there nearly every gear change, its ace

If I ever get round to fitting the new crank I recently bought its getting some extra RPM on top of that too
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
iirc, Mike was on road legal slicks. not just normal road tyres lol.
ROAD TYRES



Albeit VERY GOOD road tyres .
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
I have a std scorpion with 4" tailpipe

It blew the baffles out the middle box with a week tho

Sounds fucking awsome without the baffles tho
Mine did the same to the back box !
Originally Posted by Pardeep
If i wanted 500bhp for a road car i would go to SCS. I've heard (and not putting any other tuner down) his engine builds can take serious abuse from what i've seen. I know of 2 people who have had their engines for over 2+ years and haven't gone wrong once after a good caning on track and road
Mine didnt even last the drive home or 2000 mile after it was returned !
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
I have a std scorpion with 4" tailpipe

It blew the baffles out the middle box with a week tho

Sounds fucking awsome without the baffles tho
Mine did the same to the back box !
Originally Posted by Pardeep
If i wanted 500bhp for a road car i would go to SCS. I've heard (and not putting any other tuner down) his engine builds can take serious abuse from what i've seen. I know of 2 people who have had their engines for over 2+ years and haven't gone wrong once after a good caning on track and road
Mine didnt even last the drive home or 2000 mile after it was returned !
Originally Posted by Turner RS
Does ANY tuner honestly give a warranty? Not hard to get out of a warranty claim in anycase is it?! Blame the customer normally works LOL.
i know SCS dont !
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Originally Posted by RS500/364
Mine did the same to the back box !


Mine didnt even last the drive home or 2000 mile after it was returned !


i know SCS dont !
How long ago was this?
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Originally Posted by Pardeep
How long ago was this?

The other month l belive



I did get warranty with my engine
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
The other month l belive



I did get warranty with my engine
no it wasnt,
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
one day i might have the bottle to let someone rev the bolocks out of it on a set lol!although its nearly the same spec as touring car etc and they are 2 br of boost and over 500bhp!well it has touring car spec head lol!
well it should be up there, rule of thumb normally being on a t4 sorta engine 1psi = 10bhp

so 426 @ 26psi so 6 psi more, 60hp ?

486 !
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Originally Posted by J1mbo
no it wasnt,

What are they going on about Jimbob?

Mike
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Originally Posted by MikeR
What are they going on about Jimbob?

Mike
Paul's SCS engine that died after 2000 miles and he got no warranty on I believe.

Although like Jimbo says, im sure it was more than a couple of months ago now.
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
The other month l belive



I did get warranty with my engine
I bet you used a decent company though,thats the difference!
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Originally Posted by MikeR
What are they going on about Jimbob?

Mike
i really am not getting involved in this tonight, austarias or whatever his name his will be banging on soon, i cant be doing with it so ill let them get on with it tonight

edit: hes beat me to it
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Jim, l dont think you will spout shit mate, so why not put your side over, l am sure you have nothing to hide and who is this Austrias chap?

Mike


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