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Old 21-12-2009, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
It won't work anyway, mark my words.
Wont be marking any more of your words then

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
In any case, if each of the people had donated a quid to charity instead of buying this RATM single, at least the money would have gone to a good cause, like Cancer Research.

Far more productive.
Yeah thats a good point, let me think for a bit, oh wait, thats absolute bullshit

well over £60k raised for shelter, and still rising

Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
The gap is closing. I heard rumours that Joes single sold 80,000 copies YESTERDAY.

LOL at the tags too. RATM won't win this.


I dont get why everyone is getting so serious about all this? RATM won. Mainly because people didnt want to see x factor at number 1. If cowell has made another few hundred k out of this, then so be it. I personally dont give a fuck, and I aint bought anything, but I enjoyed the competition, it was the like the good old days, when there used to be a race for xmas number 1. Same again next year anyone?

And ffs, pardeep what you on about man? REAL musicians this, REAL musicians that. whatever

Merry fucking christmas, pricks
Old 21-12-2009, 02:53 PM
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Most musicians are worthless, there is an enormous glut of fairly good muscians that the world just doesnt need.
so who cares if 90% of them slit their wrists, we'd still have more than we need.
What a load of shit!!! Where would Music be without Musicians? You'd have joe's voice alone and thats it.
Old 21-12-2009, 02:55 PM
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its easy to spot a real musician...he's the one stacking shelves in tesco with a large chip on his shoulder whilst complaining about everyone selling out.

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Old 21-12-2009, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
its easy to spot a real musician...he's the one stacking shelves in tesco with a large chip on his shoulder.
Old 21-12-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Pardeep
How are they going to sell when they don't even make it on the charts? What do you think the charts are there for? Its to promote the music and to say to the public 'Check this out, its great'
Now THAT is a crock of bollocks. You're getting it the wrong way round. The chart is there to measure the success of the single. How it is promoted is down to the artist/label. OK, so maybe its a slightly flawed industry, but it's not the only one that is. What would have been more fair would have been for RATM to write a new single, or even better still, do a cover of Miley Cyrus 'The Climb' in their style, then promote that in a fair way. If that had won the 'war' then fair enough. Point proven.

Look at it this way. Take 2 VERY talented bands. One produces a nice easy listening track with no harsh lyrics, but a good catchy tune. The other produces a track with profanities, heavy basslines and screechy vocals. Which will sell more records?

I'll tell you, Band One will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 80% of the population (kids/adults/old folk etc). Band Two will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 20% of the population (some adults, but unlikey kids/old folk).

After that, its a mathematical probability issue.
Old 21-12-2009, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Now THAT is a crock of bollocks. You're getting it the wrong way round. The chart is there to measure the success of the single. How it is promoted is down to the artist/label. OK, so maybe its a slightly flawed industry, but it's not the only one that is. What would have been more fair would have been for RATM to write a new single, or even better still, do a cover of Miley Cyrus 'The Climb' in their style, then promote that in a fair way. If that had won the 'war' then fair enough. Point proven.

Look at it this way. Take 2 VERY talented bands. One produces a nice easy listening track with no harsh lyrics, but a good catchy tune. The other produces a track with profanities, heavy basslines and screechy vocals. Which will sell more records?

I'll tell you, Band One will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 80% of the population (kids/adults/old folk etc). Band Two will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 20% of the population (some adults, but unlikey kids/old folk).

After that, its a mathematical probability issue.
Wow your really pissed that RATM won aren't you? Heres the difference between them. KITN is 17 years old and still can be listened to today. The Climb will be rerecorded by another person and heard over and over again. It has to be redone to listen to it.
Old 21-12-2009, 03:38 PM
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I'm actually not that bothered. For the record, I don't mind the RATM single, it was my kind of music when it came out (not any more really though). It's the whole protest that grinds my gears. You do seem to be the one getting more excited about the whole thing, I must say.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy

Look at it this way. Take 2 VERY talented bands. One produces a nice easy listening track with no harsh lyrics, but a good catchy tune. The other produces a track with profanities, heavy basslines and screechy vocals. Which will sell more records?

I'll tell you, Band One will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 80% of the population (kids/adults/old folk etc). Band Two will sell to a potential audience of perhaps 20% of the population (some adults, but unlikey kids/old folk).

After that, its a mathematical probability issue.
What you forgot to add into this equation is band one is run under the sony label, and due to the way Sony control the radio 1 playlist then they get 20 times the exposure of band number two who are independant.
Old 21-12-2009, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I'm actually not that bothered. For the record, I don't mind the RATM single, it was my kind of music when it came out (not any more really though). It's the whole protest that grinds my gears. You do seem to be the one getting more excited about the whole thing, I must say.
I think the campaign was a big fuck you to manufactured trash. So yeah i was very excited about it
Old 21-12-2009, 04:12 PM
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Its a shame the fuel protest campain on facebook didnt work aswell
Old 21-12-2009, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
What you forgot to add into this equation is band one is run under the sony label, and due to the way Sony control the radio 1 playlist then they get 20 times the exposure of band number two who are independant.
Bugger, beat me to it.

Do you know what a playlist is Christian and how it works?
Old 21-12-2009, 06:49 PM
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Christian, it's time to accept you were wrong about something on pf. Not sure how to console you really, other than to ask you not to do anything stupid(I can imagine how you feel). Alot of people on this thread think you're a dick, but there might be some way to have some kind of other use in life, and you will find it one day.

Old 26-12-2009, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
This protest proved ONE thing and ONE thing only. There are alot of people on Facebook and naturally with any networking site, things spread like wildfire and everyone just jumped on the bandwagon, not necessarily because they like RATM, just because they wanted to be rebels. Wooosh. Out of all those that bought the single, I bet 3/4 of them did it for that reason and theres my justification for saying that it was a pathetic and pointless thing to do.
While I'm glad that X Factor hasn't had the number 1, what a shit song to choose to use for the protest.

Next year, why not pick a proper Christmas song like The Pogues & Kirsty McCall with Fairytale of New York - it was pipped to number 1 in 1987 by the Pet Shop Boys' cover of "Always on My Mind".

Shane MacGowan famously said "We were beaten by two queens and a drum machine."
Old 26-12-2009, 07:20 PM
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its the internet. everyone jumps on a bandwagon at some time whilst slating others for doing the same thing.
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