PMSL - Online X Factor Protest.....
15-12-2009, 04:21 PM
#42
It made me laugh earlier on Radio 1, Mills was pulling the piss out of those that are following this Gaybook thing to get RATM to number 1 and people were texting in calling him an X-Factor Puppet. 
What is more Puppet-like than following an arranged online protest to buy a single in order to stop X-Factor??
Also, RATM has probably passed its peak now in terms of what it will sell, Joe's single comes out tomorrow, watch it ROMP away and I hope it does. OK, so X-Factor is not an entirely natural way of reaching stardom for a musician, but the lad has talent. Not everyones taste, but what chart music appeals to these people that always claim to like only the hardcore music genres? Pretentious Puppets IMO.
What is more Puppet-like than following an arranged online protest to buy a single in order to stop X-Factor??
Also, RATM has probably passed its peak now in terms of what it will sell, Joe's single comes out tomorrow, watch it ROMP away and I hope it does. OK, so X-Factor is not an entirely natural way of reaching stardom for a musician, but the lad has talent. Not everyones taste, but what chart music appeals to these people that always claim to like only the hardcore music genres? Pretentious Puppets IMO.
15-12-2009, 04:30 PM
#47
As for Rage Against The Machine, it was obviously chosen because of its extremism and the fact that it is about the most outlandish suggestion that could have been made. That is in itself admitting that it's not intended to be mainstream, so what does it prove taking special measures to get it to the top of the mainstream charts? Big woop. It won't work anyway, mark my words.
Then everyone that wasted their money will have done just that.
15-12-2009, 04:30 PM
#48
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Hear hear!
I shall be buying RATM's track even though I already have it. Don't care if RATM are also with Sony and they end up being the only winners. If it keeps X-Factor shit off the top spot I can swallow a couple of quid to do my bit. Commercial manufactured fucking shite
15-12-2009, 04:44 PM
#51
Rage have already said they will give all their royalty payments to charity and the campaign has also generated upwards of 30K for shelter at a time of year where being homeless is especially hard.
15-12-2009, 04:45 PM
#53
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It made me laugh earlier on Radio 1, Mills was pulling the piss out of those that are following this Gaybook thing to get RATM to number 1 and people were texting in calling him an X-Factor Puppet.
What is more Puppet-like than following an arranged online protest to buy a single in order to stop X-Factor??
Also, RATM has probably passed its peak now in terms of what it will sell, Joe's single comes out tomorrow, watch it ROMP away and I hope it does. OK, so X-Factor is not an entirely natural way of reaching stardom for a musician, but the lad has talent. Not everyones taste, but what chart music appeals to these people that always claim to like only the hardcore music genres? Pretentious Puppets IMO.
What is more Puppet-like than following an arranged online protest to buy a single in order to stop X-Factor??
Also, RATM has probably passed its peak now in terms of what it will sell, Joe's single comes out tomorrow, watch it ROMP away and I hope it does. OK, so X-Factor is not an entirely natural way of reaching stardom for a musician, but the lad has talent. Not everyones taste, but what chart music appeals to these people that always claim to like only the hardcore music genres? Pretentious Puppets IMO.
He hasn't got talent Christian. He's just some guy who can sing (and not very well) and wait till they put autotune on his voice to make the cunt sound pitch perfect. Chart music is killing off REAL MUSICIANS. Real instrument players are losing out because of fuckers like Simon manufacturing SHIT.
Last edited by Pardeep; 15-12-2009 at 04:48 PM.
15-12-2009, 04:49 PM
#54
FPMSL @ the irony of that coming from someone supporting a show where people phone up and throw money down the toilet to "vote", THAT should have gone to charity if anything should have surely?
Rage have already said they will give all their royalty payments to charity and the campaign has also generated upwards of 30K for shelter at a time of year where being homeless is especially hard.
Rage have already said they will give all their royalty payments to charity and the campaign has also generated upwards of 30K for shelter at a time of year where being homeless is especially hard.
I never said I thought that X-Factor was the ultimate in musical talent, but I do think its pretty unfair to say that no talent ever comes out of it. Take Leona, she is fucking superb and would have been a superb artist whatever the route to her success would have been. Just because she isn't singing the kind of music you like, does it make it wrong?
15-12-2009, 04:50 PM
#55
Example of one of them (the guitarist Tom Morello) speaking:
America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exercise this freedom you've lost all control over what you do, what is produced, and how it is produced. And in the end, the product doesn't belong to you. The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don't care about making a living. Which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve.
Ie they are absolutely everything that NO X factor contestant ever will be, they are free thinking, driven by more than just "I want to be famous", because they are driven by political ideals, and they created their own sound, not just got handed one by a record company.
Im amazed you missed the significance of the band chosen!
Last edited by Chip; 15-12-2009 at 04:51 PM.
15-12-2009, 04:51 PM
#56
Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
15-12-2009, 04:52 PM
#57
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Its a good example of a decent band with their own personal agenda they wish to promite, ie their own true beliefs on politics.
Example of one of them (the guitarist Tom Morello) speaking:
America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exercise this freedom you've lost all control over what you do, what is produced, and how it is produced. And in the end, the product doesn't belong to you. The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don't care about making a living. Which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve.
Ie they are absolutely everything that NO X factor contestant ever will be, they are free thinking, driven by more than just "I want to be famous", because they are driven by political ideals, and they created their own sound, not just got handed one by a record company.
Im amazed you missed the significance of the band chosen!
Example of one of them (the guitarist Tom Morello) speaking:
America touts itself as the land of the free, but the number one freedom that you and I have is the freedom to enter into a subservient role in the workplace. Once you exercise this freedom you've lost all control over what you do, what is produced, and how it is produced. And in the end, the product doesn't belong to you. The only way you can avoid bosses and jobs is if you don't care about making a living. Which leads to the second freedom: the freedom to starve.
Ie they are absolutely everything that NO X factor contestant ever will be, they are free thinking, driven by more than just "I want to be famous", because they are driven by political ideals, and they created their own sound, not just got handed one by a record company.
Im amazed you missed the significance of the band chosen!
15-12-2009, 04:53 PM
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another thread summed up perfectly by the brains at chip.com... at last someone else see's the reality of why that song and why it was RATM and not the likes of Pantera/Metallica (when they did good songs in the 80's late 90's) etc...!
15-12-2009, 04:54 PM
#59
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Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
15-12-2009, 04:54 PM
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Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
15-12-2009, 04:56 PM
#62
Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
Some people wouldnt
Its YOU complaining about those people who dont want him to be number 1 getting together and trying to show people there IS a decent alternative.
I doubt many people buying the single by RATM doesnt like it, those who do certainly wont dislike it as much as they dislike the x factor, lol, personally its been one of my favourite songs for a decade and a half now, and one I never bought legally the first time around as I was a poor student at the time and records back then were expensive, so getting the opportunity to buy it now in a way that will be noticed and bring what I believe to be one of the worlds best ever bands back into the limelight is a good thing.
If you like, as you seem so supportive of X factor voting, think of this as an x factor vote, but this one is a PROTEST vote
Last edited by Chip; 15-12-2009 at 04:57 PM.
15-12-2009, 04:57 PM
#63
Now THAT is ridiculous. I don't buy alot of music, but if I do, it's what I LIKE.
I used to like G 'N' R (saw the twice at Wembley - UYI tour in the early 90's), Faith no More etc etc, but not any more. Don't mind that kind of stuff, but not enough to want to buy it. My music collection contains allsorts and like many, its music that I like, not music that I bought because I felt that the band needed to put a meal on their table.
15-12-2009, 04:58 PM
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Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
15-12-2009, 04:59 PM
#66
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Why is the chart suddenly the benchmark anyway? I am fairly sure that Metallica and bands like that never lost any sleep from not doing too well in the charts. It's just not their thing. It's like getting a BTCC and racing in F1 with it. It just wouldn't do very well, despite it being good at what it was intended for. It just so happens that the MAJORITY of the public don't want to see RATM at number 1 this Christmas.
Deal with it.
Deal with it.
I don't think RATM give a flying fuck either. I can't be botheerd to write a load of stuff so I'll just say "refer to Chips post" as I think that sums it up a treat. It's not about putting RATM to number 1 it's about keeping commercial manufactured cash cow drivel off the top spot.
15-12-2009, 05:00 PM
#68
Cant say I personally care much TBH, never really been one for wnating to listen to the latest number one etc, I just listen to what I like and dont care if others like it or not really.
15-12-2009, 05:00 PM
#69
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So thats what being a fan is all about? Buying a bands music even if its bad?
Now THAT is ridiculous. I don't buy alot of music, but if I do, it's what I LIKE.
I used to like G 'N' R (saw the twice at Wembley - UYI tour in the early 90's), Faith no More etc etc, but not any more. Don't mind that kind of stuff, but not enough to want to buy it. My music collection contains allsorts and like many, its music that I like, not music that I bought because I felt that the band needed to put a meal on their table.
Now THAT is ridiculous. I don't buy alot of music, but if I do, it's what I LIKE.
I used to like G 'N' R (saw the twice at Wembley - UYI tour in the early 90's), Faith no More etc etc, but not any more. Don't mind that kind of stuff, but not enough to want to buy it. My music collection contains allsorts and like many, its music that I like, not music that I bought because I felt that the band needed to put a meal on their table.
15-12-2009, 05:04 PM
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Love x factor!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets be honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets be honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
Last edited by Porkie; 15-12-2009 at 05:08 PM.
15-12-2009, 05:07 PM
#72
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Love x factor!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets me honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets me honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
must be losing my sharp wit in my old age!
15-12-2009, 05:14 PM
#80
PF's Guitar God!!!
Love x factor!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets be honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
Love joe...
I even like the Hanna montana cover he has done!!!!
Love Simon cowell and all he stands for!
only one thing is bothering me though....
todays headline in the Sun. Joe 'I'm straight'
ok...
but Joe
1. you are 18, good looking and you HAVEN'T slept with a girl
2. you DON'T fancy Cheryl cole.
3. you didnt feel any spark when you met Jordan
Joe, lets be honest mate. You love the cock don't you!!!!
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