Would certainly be better if a date clash could be avoided

 

im with neil on this one, i dont care too much about winning trophies but i just dont want to be last!
i might be upfor totb as long as i can at least get into the 12s before hand and not blow it up again

 

http://focusrsownersclub.com/index.php?showtopic=30451

 

to be honnest ide leave it, as you`d be on the same weekend as usc at pod and i reckon more people go thre than totb

 

No, the date for Ford Fair IS set, and USC is the following weekend, but TOTB could be on either of those days, it's down to noise regs at Elvington or something.

 

ah rite dan, they should have it the week before ford fair really lol

 

so whats the best tyre for totb?

 

Its one of the best spectator events of the year imo! Fuck Ford Fair!

 

personally id rather be at ford fair then totb ,,




dan will ford fair be a two day event this year ??

really is getting difficult to get round the whole event in a single afternoon ??/


beef

 

TOTB has always been the week before USC, and I was under the impression it clashed with Ford Fair every year ?

 

888s are a good all round tyre for totb,but i guess the best way to go is one set for the handling track and another set for the 1/4 mile

 

It's Ford Fair and USC that normally clash. I'm hoping TOTB will be the weekend after FF.

Beefy - it's still a one day show unfortunately. The amount it would cost to make it a two dayer means we'd make a lot less money for a lot more work!

 

totb is normally the end of july.or it has been for the last few years
they probably moved it hoping AG will not attend and win again.

 

i have plenty of 888s but what is the best tyre for the 1/4 mile that you can use at totb.

 

MT streets are what you can run at TOTB

 

who selles them in the uk mate ?? and are they any better than 888s??

 

Tim can we stay at yours if TOTB is a goer!

 

look forward to going up againest some of the ford TOTB team next year

 

that 1/4 mile time in your sig what was the 60ft time if you can remember and what tyres was it on ? tel me to feck off if you want lol

 

that 1/4 was on BF goodridge drag radials and 60ft was 2.2

but its so last spec

 

so you have run faster then?? i thought the 60ft would be better on drag radials i have run 2.2 and 2.196 on my 888s

 

that was at totb 5 years ago when it was just a piece of tarmac, on an old runway not the fully glued 1/4 mile track it now is lol

but my fastest time now is 12.1@126 on R888's but that is the only run i have done on the current spec

 

Of course buddy.

 

I've seen a good few rs turbo's escort and fiesta run 2.1 and the odd 2.0 on road tyres... its not as straight forward as who can get the best 60ft,

 

well if you have the power and you get a good 60ft and dont the hit the limiter or miss any gears then what am i missing ?? genuine question?

 

thats a cracking time and a good terminal aswell thats got to be near 400hp ?? do you know what the 60ft was on that time ?

 

You were comparing yours and sbd16v's 60ft times. 2 completely different cars, gear ratios, geometry set ups, bhp, torque, power deliverys etc etc, yes... the better you van make A cars 60ft the better that car will go,

A 2.2 on his car may make for a fantastic time (which it clearly does) and getting a better launch on his car will improve his time... but... dependent of where he might change from first to 2nd might actually show as a worse 60ft time even though it was a better launch and better ET time.

 

sorry i was wrong its not 126

60ft- 2.2042
330ft- 5.6278
1/8 8.15
1/8 97.4
1000'- 10.23
1/4 -12.10
1/4-124.11

i change out of first gear at 30mph iirc

and yes the car is give or take 400, i will run faster next year as my 60ft will get better

 

a 12.6 isnt fantastic nor is a 2.2 60ft thats why i asked what his 60ft was on the 12.1 run as i dont think that he made all that time just on the extra 5mph terminal from his extra power but i could well be wrong ??

and i was only comparing his 2.2 on drags to my 2.2 on 888s i really thought they would do better than that if not ill stick to my 888s and save the cash

 

i was wrong then he did get it all from the extra power .

theres deffo more to come from his car then ..

 

my last 2.2 was on R888's at pod, the 2.2 on drag radials was on a unpreped piece of road and it makes a massive difference.

having power at the right places is where its at

 

you got it

 

cheers for being open about it all ,ill look forward to getting beat by you next year lol.

 

It is a very respectable time... on a prodomenently track set up car it is good.

And i think you have looked completely through what i said if you think a 888 will be nearly as good as a drag radial, but its ok... its your few quid you'll be saving not mine ha ha


Have you ever run your car on not sticky tyres at pod?

 

depends what you call sticky tyres if you mean 888s and bf goodridge drag radials then yes i have ran both and they both on the same day and both gave the same 60ft times no what i tryed!! big burn outs didn't make any difference and i did about 12 runs that day


p-s just re read it , i though you said on sticky not non sticky my bad , no i haven't why?

 

Was only asking if you had tried sticky against non sticky to see if you even noticed a difference between them, but if you've tried drag tyres against 888's and found no difference does that make you wonder why?

 

well yes it did but i thought it might of been because they were street legal ones in the usa against a street legal uk cut slick (888) .the side walls were harder than my 888s and now i know the lad with the astra got the same results or am i wrong ??

 

His 'same results' are on 2 different surfaces using different tyres... so not really comparable, yes your wrong about the side walls bit.

Like i said at the beginning you cant compare your 60ft against his. far more to it than that.

 

i wish i have the power to enter this event, mybe the year after

 

TOTB has been at the exact same venue and surface since day one. The airfield return road we race on has not changed. They did glue it this year apparently....but I guess the rain kinda screwed that up.

Mickey Thompso ET Street RADIAL were the most extreme tyre allowed in the road car class this year. NO Wrinkle wall style tyres were allowed, although the RIPS Skyline bore a C-class sticker indicating road class and was using ET Street wrinkle walls. Not sure what that was all about.
Obviously MT's, BFG's and any of the US tyres are illegal for road use in the UK as they do not carry the E marking. Only DOT markings. Although they are generally accepted in racing events as being legal here.

As to whether these tyre rules continues under Trevors rule, that is yet to be announced.

And for some vehicles tyres can make a massive tdifference at Elvington. For others, not so much. Must be very vehicle dependant.

I tried 888's and MT DR's last year at Elvington, and there was negligable difference over the 1/4.
Ive tried same on different occasions at Santa Pod. The DR's were able to net me 60ft's some 0.4-0.5s quicker than the 888's with ease. I seemed to have zero traction on the 888's !!
This year I never even bothered with DR's, and only used 888's. I'd probably have been better using full wet road tyres though lol