Lee Ivatt

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Hi all please for give my lack of knowledge. Im not that clued up on technological terms and stuff.

A few years ago my favorite radio station (arrow rock.nl), changed its provider.

It used to be on AM 675 which I could pick up anywhere, but they went to FM.

As they are in Holland, the FM frequency could only be picked up in Holland.

They couldnt afford to keep with Fm so have now gone satalite

Only way i can get them is here on the net - http://www.arrow.nl/services/onlineradio_rock.php

Which is not good as I cant spend all my life sitting at the pc

http://translate.google.com/translat...w.nl%2Frock%2F

On their home page it says this

Satellite Owners Attention!
Arrow Classic Rock is now transmitted by Canal Digitaal!
Arrow is transmitted via satellite to the Astra 1 satellite (19.2 East)
Frequency: 12574 Horizontal, FEC: 22000 5 / 6
Channel number 260 from certified receivers.

So does this mean I can pick it up with a digital radio?

This used to keep me going at work, its been a lonley quiet few years now

Any help much appreciated

Lee Ivatt

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anyone?

Fil

you need a satellite dish pointed at 19.2 east and a set top box, the channels clear so no subscription required.

the set top box then pluged into your hifi etc,

can probably do it for about Ł50 with second hand equipment.

dish wise you'll probably get away with a sky mini dish, as your on the right side of the UK.

If you cant source one, i have one sitting in my garden going spare, and as for the set top box, you may get away with a sky digital one i think they do fec 22000, not ideal but will work if it does, again may have a spare old one knocking about, well i think i have 3 in the loft!

then all you need is some coax and 2 F plugs

Fil

doh and then i read at work!


right if they are on line, get an unlimited data package for your mobile and stream it, been doing this for years with xfm.nl

Lee Ivatt

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Satalite is no advantage as it can only be used at home, so im better of using the internet as I am now. Thanks ever so much for the kind offer tho, much appreciated

Humm unlimited data package? My idea what that costs. Im about to sort out a phone contract, so could be the ideal time!!!

So could I "stream it" into an MP3/bluetooth connection in a car radio or a docking station say in my workshop where I dont have internet access? As these are the 2 areas I wnat to listen to it but cant!!!!!!

Sorry as said im not very clued up on this sort of technology!

Iain Mac

My O2 Simplicity contract is Ł20 per month for unlimited data, 800 minutes and more texts than I will ever use.

T Mobile are advertising unlimited data and texts on PAYG for life so long as you top up Ł10pm

Lee Ivatt

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Yeh sounds good, now everyone has changed their PAG taffifs im spending at least Ł20pm anyway, so makes sence to get a contract like that.

So sorry for sounding stupid, but say I get this unlimited data on my phone.

What do I then do with it?

As said i know nothing about this stuff. My current phone is a Ł9.99 Nokia no camera. music nothing.

So is it just a case as i said before plugging the phone into

a docking station like the ipod ones?
or
A jack socket on a hifi system?

And how about in my truck, is it easy to connect the phone to the Radio unit in the car, say with bluetooth, usb MP3 socket???

3drbadboy

arrow rock is on dab digital radio

Lee Ivatt

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Are you sure? I know it used to be on dab, but I thought when they stopped their FM contract the DAB was stopped also.

It is defo Arrow rock.nl and not that gay uk version?

this is what arrow nl sound like.

http://www.arrow.nl/services/onlineradio_rock.php

Fil

I dont think there are any true unlimited data packages on any network, now im with T-mobile ( limited to 1GB fair useage ) ive had it since april 06 and regulary stream radio / tv / conect to a laptop and other stuff they says a No No, but has been fine no excess charges.

I Say streaming whilst driving is a No, i do it, but duing the day you get alot of buffering making it unlistenable with the constant change in reception as your moving, same on a train abit hit and miss.



Now im now sure on how normall phones handle streaming as ive had windows based phones for the last 5ish years now ( currently touch pro 2 )

which with a spall convertor gives me a 3.5mm jack to phonos, simple

or if you head unit supports A2DP bluetooth, you can link up in stereo


Oh ive just tried a program on my phone SPB radio, just had a look under the dutch section and it has arrow classic rock in the preprogramed list.


if spending Ł20 a month on a sim only contract anothe 10/15 more will get you a pretty highend phone.



Lastly have you considered what i find the most reliable way, to download the radio shows , or 6hr chunks, then transfer them to your mp3 device, so its not live but only a day or 2 behind

Lee Ivatt

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Hadnt thought of that, A phone that can recieve arrow directly on the radio would be the best bet!!!
I take it your phone has a DAB built in to it? or am i totally in the wrong area lol

Yes have thought about downloading, but not sure how to set this up as the internet arrow is i think what they call a constant live stream?

bloody technology I know its just a case of using it and learning but its all a bit confusing for a first timer into these things!

Fil

No my phone dont do DAB only FM, i was listening the same way you would on a PC via the live stream, just happened to have the radio station allready in the preset streams.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ It basically it records all the sound coming out of your PC, so any music, mouse clicks etc.

So you run the radio stream at night whilst not using your PC for anything else, disable you IM notifications , email etc, then run the program until morning or your hame from work etc, then you'll have 8 -16 hours of recordings to playback as an MP3 file.

You'll get there

Im no expert by along way, just asking and playing about gets you there

Lee Ivatt

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Thanks mate, so what FM frequency are you using to pick it up? As said imi looking to get a new phone, so this is something i could try in the shop before i buy!

Fil

Yes my phone has built in FM, but like any Fm radio will only pick up local stations,

Im not listening via FM or any frequency im using probably the same link as you posted ( www.arrow.nl/services/onlineradio_rock.php ) to listen to it via streaming on my phone, just happens to all ready be added to the list of available stations, streams at 128Kbps

Thrush

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Arrow isn't on DAB anymore - used to be, but not anymore......