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Old 02-11-2009, 12:08 PM
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Default what to do? i have been knocked. * ANOTHER UPDATE* c++ts have taken the money back

my dad has a fiat coupe and the gearbox packed up a month ago. he searched around on the internet and found a place called 'chadderton salvage' they werer advertising a re-con box for 299 with a years guarantee he asked me if i could order it for him and pay as he hasnt got bank cards.

he never recieved the box and has been calling them asking where it was, they fobbed him off saying the courier had lost it blah blah blah.

they told him they would refund the money,,, still havn't got it!! i paid with my bank card so i'm guessing theirs no come back's?

just done a search and found this

http://www.canyoutrustthem.com/index...DERTON+SALVAGE

is their anything i can do? or have i lost my money for good?

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Old 02-11-2009, 12:14 PM
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Time for the passinford Secret services to deal with this case like the ebay topic.

Can't you go down and get the cash?
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they are in oldham and i'm in essex mate. bit far to go.

pissed off that they seem to get away with it
Old 02-11-2009, 12:19 PM
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how exactly did you pay for it mate?

If its credit card you are covered for non receipt of goods, unfortunately debit cards dont have this cover. If you did pay with CC, phone your provider and ask for a chargeback.

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Old 02-11-2009, 12:20 PM
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hope you get it sorted dude as thats shite
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paid with my debit card mate.
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How the hell are they still allowed to trade with all them complaints ,I dont fancy your chances of getting your money back.What a load of wank them feckers seem to be.

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can he not phone trading standards? anyone near them to go and see them directly?
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i know mate, if only my dad had done a bit of research first, but he was desperate to get he's car back on the road.

i've spoken to them and a lady answers the phone and i cant shout or swear at her because i dont like being rude to women
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
i know mate, if only my dad had done a bit of research first, but he was desperate to get he's car back on the road.

i've spoken to them and a lady answers the phone and i cant shout or swear at her because i dont like being rude to women
Just mention trading standards the next time you call, they have the right to shut them down and put them out of business, and also the owner wont ever be able to run a business again and will be working for tesco’s on the tills, you also get a CR, criminal record. so he'll be stuffed.


play the ball back into there court, dont be abusive but
assertive.
(sp)

failing that, see if anyone is free to pop down.

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Old 02-11-2009, 12:38 PM
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Its near me that gaff, not been there that long as its in the old transport yard.
If I get chance I will go and ask this avvy if theyve got a box in, I aint gonna go asking for yer money as I dont wanna get too involved plus you couldnt afford me
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i mentioned to them that they are charging vat and their not vat registered,

they didnt seem bothered by that
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Originally Posted by Big G
Its near me that gaff, not been there that long as its in the old transport yard.
If I get chance I will go and ask this avvy if theyve got a box in, I aint gonna go asking for yer money as I dont wanna get too involved plus you couldnt afford me
lol i wouldnt expect anyone to get involved like that mate,

to be honest i dont reckon they've got a gearbox
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
i mentioned to them that they are charging vat and their not vat registered,

they didnt seem bothered by that
if they are not vat registerd the revune will be happy to here from you.
they cant charge vat unless the have a vat registerd N0.

So call,
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/
-08454 04 05 06

And
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm

http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/h...=&raction=view

-0845 010 9000
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
lol i wouldnt expect anyone to get involved like that mate,

to be honest i dont reckon they've got a gearbox
if i lived near by i wouldnt think twice of poping down to help, but im in the midlands, rather far.
Old 02-11-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
lol i wouldnt expect anyone to get involved like that mate,

to be honest i dont reckon they've got a gearbox
Ive been down, They want a refrence number that starts with a 3 and then you'll get a refund, you should have got given it when you ordered the box.
Old 02-11-2009, 01:23 PM
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Sent you a PM too ya southern bender
Old 02-11-2009, 03:14 PM
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Is it a VISA Debit card though mate? if so you should be covered!!
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Why are so many people like this ?

I hope you get a result but i doubt it

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Christ Ronnie, no end to your bad luck man! (*I say while touching wood, not had the best of luck either )
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Originally Posted by RSTurboSI
and also the owner wont ever be able to run a business again and will be working for tesco’s on the tills, you also get a CR, criminal record. so he'll be stuffed.
Seriously, WTF are you talking about?


To the OP; Debit card = little / no protection from anything like this, credit card is different and does offer protection.

Your current best course of auction is to send a "letter before action". Highlight the problem, the required solution, the time frame in which the solution needs to be applied (remembering to ensure a reasonable amount of time and finally the outcome should the solution you suggest not be complied with - in this case, litigation via the small claim's court. Ensure your send the letter by recorded post.

Should they fail to refund your money within the allocated time then go to:

https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

And start a claim with the small claim's court. It'll cost you about Ł30 but it is well worth it.
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Originally Posted by RSTurboSI
if they are not vat registerd the revune will be happy to here from you.
they cant charge vat unless the have a vat registerd N0.

So call,
http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/
-08454 04 05 06

And
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/index.htm

http://search2.hmrc.gov.uk/kbroker/h...=&raction=view

-0845 010 9000
Originally Posted by RSTurboSI
if i lived near by i wouldnt think twice of poping down to help, but im in the midlands, rather far.

thanks for that mate



Originally Posted by Big G
Ive been down, They want a refrence number that starts with a 3 and then you'll get a refund, you should have got given it when you ordered the box.
reference is 309068, give them that everytime i speak to them



Originally Posted by Big G
Sent you a PM too ya southern bender
pmsl replied my norvurn friend


Originally Posted by markyd3
Is it a VISA Debit card though mate? if so you should be covered!!
really? i didnt think they were? will call my bank tonight and see


Originally Posted by cossie4i
Why are so many people like this ?

I hope you get a result but i doubt it

Steve
thanks mate, annoyeing that they seem to get away with it, and the police cant do nothing about it


Originally Posted by COCHYN
Christ Ronnie, no end to your bad luck man! (*I say while touching wood, not had the best of luck either )
mate!! luck dont seem to be on my side lately
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Me and Big G will pop round.

Like the old days. The brothers.

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Originally Posted by RONNIE AMIS
reference is 309068, give them that everytime i speak to them
G's collection service is on the case
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good lad
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Originally Posted by dojj
good lad
I turned up and 1 of the lads recognised me and came for a chat, he then told his boss in not so many words that it would be in the best interests of the business that it got sorted out
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Originally Posted by Big G
I turned up and 1 of the lads recognised me and came for a chat, he then told his boss in not so many words that it would be in the best interests of the business that it got sorted out
fair play
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Nice work Big G
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top work from Big G if this gets sorted
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Originally Posted by Big G
I turned up and 1 of the lads recognised me and came for a chat, he then told his boss in not so many words that it would be in the best interests of the business that it got sorted out
did he ask for your autograph?



still, you wouldn't need to be going round signing things if the boss had played fair in the first place, why do some peole do this sort of thing
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Top work.Fiat were never good at making gearboxes.
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Ronnie thats not good to hear but reading down the page i see you have it sort to Big Gman manTheres to many robbing bastards out there
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Originally Posted by markyd3
Is it a VISA Debit card though mate? if so you should be covered!!
Sorry, but it definitely won't be.

The appropriate legislation that allows you protection when using a credit card is the Consumer Credit Act and that has no bearing whatsoever on the use of a debit card, regardless of who the issuer is.

For future reference when purchasing goods or services that cost between Ł100 and Ł30,000 you should always pay at least some of the amount on a credit card, then, if it all goes wrong the credit card issuer is jointly liable with the supplier for the whole amount.
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Originally Posted by OldDan
Me and Big G will pop round.

Like the old days. The brothers.

Rope me and fordsportjay in and you've got the scariest 'crew' Cheshire RSOC can offer

Ron - hope it all gets sorted fella, you could do with something going right at the mo!
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Originally Posted by Big G
I turned up and 1 of the lads recognised me and came for a chat, he then told his boss in not so many words that it would be in the best interests of the business that it got sorted out
pmsl you have that much of a reputation? you sound like a handy person to know


Originally Posted by CRAIG HAYTER
Ronnie thats not good to hear but reading down the page i see you have it sort to Big Gman manTheres to many robbing bastards out there
thanks mate, fingers crossed big G will sort it it makes my blood boil that they seem to be getting away with it



Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Rope me and fordsportjay in and you've got the scariest 'crew' Cheshire RSOC can offer

Ron - hope it all gets sorted fella, you could do with something going right at the mo!
pmsl if big G dontget it i'll give you a call.

thanks mate i've tried calling them this morning but no answer. will keep this updated
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hi pal,sorry to hear about ure problem,will watch to see how you get on,not to far from oldham and have some good mates over that way
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If you want to be arrested then disclose the details on a forum where someone offers to "help", that could be the likely outcome.
Much better is a few more options.
1. if he sells s/h cars arrange a test drive of a car that is more than the value of the box, now keep the car, send him a letter telling him it is in lieu of payment/refund, also inform plod as he'll report the "theft", so long as you can prove the debt is owed, as not received the goods then it is a CIVIL matter 100%, you are 100% entitled to do the above, as is anybody owed a debt by anybody.
2. file a CCC, county court claim, when you get judgement if he still doesn't pay hit him with a garnishee order, this seizes ALL his finances present and future, and also future assets, or could opt for possession order against him for alternate goods.
This way you are squeaky clean, and legal, not forgetting he has YOUR address, so any "heaviness" can and does work both ways.
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Or just twat him with Manc Swagger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6-NK...eature=related



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HAHA!! That clip's mint!

Love Soccer AM.

G where is this place? Round on the industrial bit near Wheelbase?
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Originally Posted by Neil@FastFord
HAHA!! That clip's mint!

Love Soccer AM.

G where is this place? Round on the industrial bit near Wheelbase?
Lansdowne Road on the other side from Shit Fit, used to be the TTX/LTS transport yard.


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