S1rst

Well my budget for a cheap subaru seems to have gone out the window and im now looking a evo 7's and 8's.

Ive seen a few FQ300 models and also a few 'standard' models with the small spoiler. Does anyone know the other differences between the FQ's and the 'standard' models? Are the standard models generally worth alot less or are they about the same being UK cars? Would be good if there are any car dealers on here that could have a quick look at the prices if possible.

Any info and advice is greatly appreciated, because to be honest, i havnt got a clue when it comes to evo's.

Cheers.

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

tbh this is a mine field i would stick with the subaru mate for a useable car and they are cheaper to run if you want any info on models of evo id be more than happy to help my only advice is STEER CLEAR from the 260 model "small spoiler" it has smaller cams smaller turbo 2 cats weaker con rods 5 speed gearbox which "is stronger" but not as nice to use as the 6spd if you want any info drop me a pm and ill send you my number

Big Will_

This might be of use to you:

Evo VII

Import Models

Evo VII GSR

The Evo VII was the first of the CT9A models and shared the same basic chasis as the VIII, VIII MR, IX and IX MR.

In keeping with Mitsi's traditional Evo line up, the top of the range model (in terms of "luxury" options) was the GSR.

Evo VII RS

As VII GSR, less:
• Air con;
• AYC;
• Electric windows;
• Electric folding mirrors;
• Brembos;
• Boot carpet;
• Enkeis alloy wheels.
plus:
• shorter gearing.

GSR deleted items could be added back as options.

Evo VII RSII

As VII GSR, less:
• Rear wash wiper
• Climate control
• Electric folding mirrors
plus:
• air con

UK Models

Evo VII FQ300

As VII RSII, plus:

• Power Engineering exhaust (not all models)
• Carbon FQ300 dash inserts
• FQ300 carbon inserts in spoiler uprights
• FQ badging (not carbon) on centre console & boot
• Model # on Slam panel
• Foglight in rear cluster
• Ralliart panel air filter
• Recaro seats (various options)

Evo VII GTA

As VII GSR, plus:

• Low spoiler with LED brake light (large spoiler or no spoiler options)
• No bonnet vents
• INVECS-II Sport Mode 5A/T transmission
• GTA Badging
• 15GK compressor housing
• 9.0 turbine housing
• Slightly detuned engine (272 bhp)
• Revised front bumper
• Centrally located number plate
• Vibration dampening steel oil pan
• Steel intercooler piping
• Electric wing mirrors
• Automatic headlights
• Chokepipe in back box
• HIDs + fog lamps
• Clear indicator lenses
• Clear rear lights (inc. indicator lense)
• White instrument dials with revised layout including drive selected
• Mitsubishi steering wheel incl. mounted shift selector
• Centre console incl. auto gear stick • Blue pearl dashboard trim, shift selector & window switch panel
• Blue stitching in seats, gear knob & hand brake
• Larger seats
• Adjustable arm rest with cupholders
• Sound insulation in dashboard, floor console, door trim & floor carpet
• Lower sash weather strip added to improve door sound insulation
• Altered suspension geometry & steering
• Matt finish wheels
• Leather seats optional

Available in [Colours]

Evo VIII (Chasis number CT9A 020 XXXX for GSR, CT9A 030 XXXX for MR)

UK Models

Evo VIII 260
• 2 cats (1 in down pipe, 1 in "normal" position)
• 5 speed gear box
• 9.8T housing (some with single flapper wastegate)
• Slightly modified Evo VII ECU (four plug with two different pins - Earth?)
• Euro Style Recaro interior c/w rear adjustable headrests - Leather / Suede option at cost
• Non-folding electric wing mirrors
• 8 MR pistons & head gasket
• No rear wash jet or wiper
• Small spoiler with brake light incorporated
• No SAS System
• UK style Number Plates
• Integrated Fog lamp in rear light cluster
• Single Din dash
• Kenwood 6 speaker CD / Radio system
• Large Battery
• Bridgestone Potenza tyres
• Non HID Headlights
• ISOfix points in rear seating
• 3x3 Point Rear Seat Belts

Evo VIII FQ 300 – as 260 plus:
• Upgraded blue/black interior incl. narrower seats
• HKS Superdragger turbo elbow back exhaust
• 3 Plug ECU
• Secondary Air System (SAS)
• More aggressive cams
• Folding electric mirrors
• Double Din stereo slot
• Climate Control
• Fog light in bumper
• Japanese-style front number plate holder
• Only one catalytic converter
• HKS Hardpipe kit
• HKS panel filter
• 6 speed gear box
• Yokohama Advan A046 tyres
• Rear brake light in windscreen
• Larger carbon spoiler (body colour paint on outer uprights)

NB: There is confusion over which engine internals are shared between the VIII 260 and the FQ range.

Evo VIII FQ 330 – As VIII FQ 300 plus:
•upgraded black alcantara/leather interior
•piggy back ecu
•restrictor pipe connected to wastegate actuator
•smart nav.

Evo VIII MR FQ 300 – As VIII FQ 300 plus:
•10.5T (single flap) housing
•upgraded cams
•MR seats and door cards
•carbon effect dash inserts
•dark brushed steel steering wheel
•Bilstein shock absorbers
•aluminium used in roof and side door beams
•Team Dynamic (gunmetal) alloys
•black background to front and rear lights
•slightly bigger oil cooler (more layers)
•twin boost solonoid
•optimization and reinforcement of the oil channels in the pistons
•uprated 5-ply head gasket
•added tension in piston rings, v shaped groove in second land of pistons
•reduced weight S-AYC diff (alu casing), higher strength hypoid gears, operates even when ABS is activated.

Does not have:
•HKS Superdragger exhaust

Available in gunmetal grey, not available in black, yellow or blue.

Evo VIII MR FQ 320 – As VIII MR FQ 300 plus:
• HKS Superdragger exhaust
• HKS panel filter
• HKS hardpipe kit

Evo VIII MR FQ 340 – As VIII MR FQ 320, plus:
• Piggy back ECU
• Black leather/alcantara interior
• Optional sat nav

Evo VIII MR FQ 400 – As VIII MR FQ 320, plus:
• Forged engine
• Limited edition of 100 Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing turbocharger
• Owen Developments custom manufactured cast s/s
exhaust manifold & elbow
• Omega forged pistons
• HKS forged con rods
• HKS 680cc injectors
• Zytec ITP116 high pressure fuel pump
• HKS 1.6mm steel head gasket
• Motec M800 OEM ECU
• HKS iridium spark plugs
• Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
• Alcon competition derived 240mm high clamp mode, HD
clutch with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centered drive
plate;
• HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
• Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit with Monobloc 6 pot road caliper &
343mm curved vein disc, aluminium bell,
Ferodo DS2500 pads
• Ralliart Aero Mirrors
• Carbon fibre front lip
• Carbon fibre rear vortex generator
• PIAA High Performance light & wiper upgrade
• Half leather and FQ400 Logo in Seats optional extra
• Gloss black Team Dynamics lightweight alloy wheels

Import models

Evo VIII GSR – As UK VIII FQ 300 less:
• HKS Superdragger exhaust
• Foglight in bumper
• FQ Badges
• HKS Hardpipe kit

Evo VIII RS – As Evo VIII GSR plus:
• 5 speed box
• Stronger rear diff
less:
• Air Con
• Alloy wheels
• Recaro seats
• Electric windows

GSR deleted items available as optional extras.

Evo VIII MR – As Evo VIII GSR plus:
• 10.5T (single flap) housing
• Upgraded cams
• MR interior
• Bilstein shock absorbers
• Aluminium roof
• BBS alloys
• Black background to front and rear lights
• Available in gunmetal grey, not available in black, yellow or blue.


Evo VIII MR RS – As Evo VIII MR plus:
• 5 speed box
• Stronger rear diff
• Silver backed lights
less:
• Air Con
• Alloy wheels
• Recaro seats
• Electric windows

GSR deleted items available as optional extras.

S1rst

Thanks for that mate, i didnt realise there was so much different!

S1rst

Will, thats brilliant mate, just what i was looking for! Cheers.

I think ill hold out for a nice FQ300 then. I dont think id be 100% happy if i 'made do' with the standard 260 model.

I cant believe ive persuaded myself to go for an evo 7/8 after i was orignally looking at £3k/4k scoobies though! Maybe its me being to picky and expecting too much from a £3k-£4k car i dunno.

Anyone knows of any nice 7/8's that are not advertised, please let me know.

Big Will_

Seriously mate, i worked with Evos and Scoobies and for me, it'd be the Evo all day every day.

I think my next 'fast car' will be Evo based

PT

Would love a low mileage 7RS

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

i think if you went in a scoob with someone who will "punish" it you will find out that my sti version8 is a far better road car than the evo ever was just needs 400-450bhp for my liking id honestly recomend driving a scoob sti of 03- before you make your decision you would prob prefer it mate and thats to you s1rst

benzar

hi went from a rs500 modified t0 480bhp,then i have bought a mint 40,000mile silver evo 7 gsr mods up to 370 bhp, i cant believe how responsive they are ,superb car in every way,just be careful same as buying cossies etc,

Big Will_

Giz a go in yours then

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

i have a evo 7 and to me its a hell of a car,it has the 5 speed box which is miles better than the notchy slow 6 speeder,if you want a cheep evo that won't lose much get a good 7 or a 8 260,i would have a 260 if i didn't have a 7 jdm gsr as its the best to modify with second hand parts to see a significant improvement.
it was the 260 that fooked up the prices of evos as you could get a new fq400 for nearly 50 grand and a new 260 for half,75% of people imo just wanted a evo 8 no matter what and some people lost fortunes never mind big chunks of cash on depreciation.

i don't like the 1234 or the 10 as its a ugly arsed car but the 56789 are the ones that sell well.
if your up for doing a road trip you could go the jap auctions and save £££'s

Big Will_

cozzfather - you could buy an Evo 8 260 for as little as £17,000 as 3 of my friends proved when they walked into a dealership with cash and said, "we'll buy 3 for cash if you do them for £17k!"

Hockney

No no no no! you dont want to be paying out for a 260 when for around the same money could get you a real Evo 8

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

ok mate your welcome any time

MikeR

It scares me to think what Gus would be like in his, l went for a run in his old Saph years ago and that was an experieince in pushing a car

Oh Evo 8 MR FQ 320 thats what l had, wish l had never sold it

Mike

RS_Cosworth330

I used to own an Evo 7 GSR and I can honestly say it was the best car I've ever had (& I've had a fair few!!). As it happens it's just come up for sale again:- http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=289112
I can obviously vouch for how mint it is, if you're after a 7 I swear you won't be dissappointed with this one

hamerish

if your going to modify the engine go for the 260, but if your gonna keep it pretty much standard its better to go for one of the higher specs

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

cheers mike im steady me you know
this is my old vii gsr


this is my scoob

MikeR

What kind of money was that if you dont mind me asking?

I thought you was after an Escos again?

Mike

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

i was mate then i remembered how crap my last one was lol so went for the scoob i wanted before my last cossie i gave 10k for it 4 new tyres the car wanted for nowt its a sti version8 type uk i wanted a import but couldnt find one

PT

Any websites/info on where these are held please

Tangodeltasierra3

Hi S1 my mate is thinking of selling his Silver Evo 7 Yreg - its got Ralliart Ecu good for 1.3bar 350bhp ish , stainles exhaust, anthracite rims etc...debadged, needs boost controller and the ecu mapped properley to fine tune all the bits n bobs. Hes based in Huddersfield and it wouldn't be a daft price.

cozzfather

iTrader: (1)

when the evo 260 came out they were more than the £17995 i last saw them brand new and dealer registered before discount because the 9 was sat next to them in the showrooms.

that and the top spec cars huge price difference made people wary as most punters were happy with a 260 as it was a "evo" and they didn't care as i think they didn't know they were a inferior spec.

heres the place i use or did when it was out of liverpool,because of the credit crunch and world economy theres not enough boats sailing from japan so they stopped it but fook me i saw some serious jap modified cars and cheep too.

http://www.mca-auctions.co.uk/index.php

you have to be in the trade but if you know someone you can get in,hopefully when the job picks up it will return to liverpool docks again.

Hockney

I'm sorry but your wrong there, its the FQ MR320 your after if you plan on modifying an Evo8

Big Will_

The Evo 8 MR edition engines have a larger exhaust housing, stronger rods, pistons and head gasket and another 1mm of lift on the cams. This means that they can be tuned to 400bhp / 400lb/ft torque on a standard engine.

Non MR engines are restricted by the standard rods to around 350lb/ft torque.

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

never will 1.9 bar on std rods

Big Will_

Held or peak?

Rs Gus

iTrader: (2)

held ever since it was set up

S1rst

Welli went to see an evo 8 today, 50k, 2004 FQ320 and it wasnt what i was expecting for the money. Had a few bits and bobs that needed doing on the body and was a bit of a state inside. Looked a bit neglected to be honest, and was well overdue for its service which he didnt tell me on the phone! Got a another one to look at this weekend so hopefully it will be much better.

turbo_3dr_tommy

S1rst what is your budget mate ?

S1rst

Well my budget was initially £3k for an early scooby! Then £7k for an evo 6!

To be honest mate i dont really have a budget as such for an 7 or 8, as long as the car is excellent and well looked after, and comes well priced.