ultimate civic - official mugen type-r
25-10-2009, 07:08 PM
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ultimate civic - official mugen type-r
none of your chavved up version, a properly tuned version by mugen europe. i'm not overly keen on the bonnet 'vents' or the price, but i bet it's an awesome drive 
http://www.mugeneuro.com/News/Article.aspx?Id=32
nice bit of vid, sounds good
http://www.typermugen.co.uk/
http://www.mugeneuro.com/News/Article.aspx?Id=32
nice bit of vid, sounds good
http://www.typermugen.co.uk/
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25-10-2009, 07:53 PM
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Nearly Ł40k for 240PS & 162lb/ft?
Focus RS costs around Ł12k less and would make a better day to day prospect. It doesn't matter how much Honda dress it up, the power delivery of that engine is not suited for the roads, and it sounds like a chainsaw to boot.
Focus RS costs around Ł12k less and would make a better day to day prospect. It doesn't matter how much Honda dress it up, the power delivery of that engine is not suited for the roads, and it sounds like a chainsaw to boot.
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There was an article on pistonheads about the mugen, i posted some comments on pistonheads about how it can't be worth nearly 40k and almost every one blasted me for completely missing the point,
25-10-2009, 08:21 PM
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Are they kidding? Buying a Civic for the same price you can get a 996 Turbo for is missing the point if you ask me. 
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a guy on there felt the same as me, about it being alot of money for not alot car and found a late model NSX for 40k saying he would much prefer that. i mentioned that you could buy a brand new type R, fit ya own aftermarket bits and save 10k.
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Mugen version of the above FD2 (Mugen RR) is fucking lovely. The FD2 already is a much better car than our crop of Type Rs anyway. Off the top of my head LSD, different suspension and few more ponies.
26-10-2009, 07:00 AM
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i have a press release that details all of the mods, and when you look it like that on top of the new car, the price tag seems more reasonable, but still a lot of money for what is 'only' a 240bhp hot hatch (although the handling will be much improved as well the engine). i would rather have an S2000 though
MUGEN Euro has confirmed a limited production run of the Civic Type R MUGEN, following huge interest in the concept version from the UK and overseas.
An exclusive run of up to 20 cars will be hand-built in the UK by MUGEN, the long-standing tuner of Honda engines for motor racing. Production of the road-legal super hatch will take place at MUGEN Euro, based in Northampton with customers receiving a unique, involved experience during the build process of each car.
Using over 20 years of experience and engineering expertise gained at the forefront of global motorsport, engineers from MUGEN in Japan and Europe analysed every component of the Swindon-built 3-door Civic Type R before developing one of the quickest normally-aspirated front drive cars in the world.
Each Type R MUGEN will be an exclusive, hand-built race car for the road, says Hiroki Toyoda, Vice President of MUGEN EURO. When we launched the Civic Type RR saloon in Japan, we sold out of all 300 units in just six minutes. Given the interest we have already had from car enthusiasts in the UK and abroad, we hope to repeat that achievement.
Race engine for the road
The 2.0-litre i-VTEC engine is the first to reap the benefits of MUGENs time in Formula 1 and GT racing, as well as hundreds of development hours and testing time with the Honda K20A engine on the world-class MUGEN engine dyno. New camshafts and a modified intake system increase power by 20 per cent to 240PS, and boost torque by 10 per cent throughout the rev range. A change of pistons also helps by increasing the compression ratio, and breathing is enhanced by fitting a custom stainless steel exhaust system and MUGEN airbox. Meanwhile, a bespoke MUGEN map for the ECU allows the engine to take full advantage of the modifications.
MUGEN engineers pay incredible attention to detail, often measuring to one thousandth of a millimetre when tuning and rebuilding an engine, and this process typically takes approximately seven days of work, says Hiroki Toyoda. When our engineers arent building customer engines, they are at circuits with top level race and rally teams helping to manage and prepare race engines. We are very proud to bring our motorsport experience to the road with this high performance Honda engine, the very first time that a MUGEN-tuned engine has ever been offered for use on the road in the UK.
The extra power of the tuned engine is transferred to road or track via a limited slip differential, and grip and handling are also significantly improved through a completely revised suspension set-up, with custom-made springs and dampers employed.
Improving the stopping power are bespoke four-piston mono-block racing brake callipers, which sit under high-density, lightweight forged alloy wheels. These weigh just 7.85kg each (32 per cent less than the production wheel), contributing to a significant reduction in unsprung weight.
Integrated style
MUGEN was keen to amend the already-aggressive original styling of the Civic Type R with modifications that are integrated. A large wing adorns the back of the car, and plays a role in increasing downforce at speed, to improve stability. Other measures to improve the cars overall aero efficiency include replacing front and rear skirts with high-quality composite items. At the front, a new grille wearing the MUGEN emblem enhances the nose.
Every Civic Type R MUGEN will be painted in Hondas famous Championship White the traditional racing colour of the brand, in which its first Formula 1 car was painted back in 1964. To authenticate the cars exclusivity each will wear a special badge inside on the centre console, listing the serial number of each unique model.
To make the ultimate Type R even more extreme, particularly for circuit use, MUGEN is offering an optional Track Pack. This package includes front Recaro seats, removal of the rear seat bench with a composite blanking panel fitted to reduce weight, water and oil temperature/pressure gauges, data recording equipment, and track-ready road-legal tyres.
Concept development
While early engineering and development was carried out by MUGEN in Japan, a considerable amount of time has been spent honing the car for UK conditions. Engineers from the UK and Japan carried out 36 hours of suspension testing on 2200km of British roads during September, to further tune the set-up. In addition, MUGENs engine specialists adjusted ECU mapping and throttle response and a new exhaust system was fitted to improve resonance. Plus, the team worked on brake feel, seeing a 30 per cent improvement after three days of testing.
The production model has also benefitted from feedback gathered from UK media, and Type R enthusiasts in the UK. This information was fed into the development process and helped decide the final spec of the 20 production units.
Price confirmed
MUGEN Euro has set the price for the Honda Civic Type R MUGEN at Ł38,599 OTR.
This price includes an unparalleled purchasing experience, which involves direct contact with MUGEN engineers throughout the cars build. This will be a package tailored to individual customers similar to the service offered when buying a racing car. Each of the Type Rs will be built to the customers exact specification, including their choice of options. Even ECU mapping can be adjusted to suit specific customer tastes or driving style.
The price also takes into account MUGEN racing engine building expertise and heritage. Put it into context, MUGEN would typically charge around Ł165,000 + VAT for a full racing Type R, with the engine costing about 10 per cent of this price. Only a select few have had the chance to sit behind the wheel of a Honda-MUGEN, and even fewer have owned one, so this is an extremely unique opportunity.
For more information, customers can call the dedicated customer service line: 0845 200 8007, or visit: www.TypeRMUGEN.co.uk
Who are MUGEN / M-Tec Co. Ltd?
ˇMUGEN means infinite or unlimited in Japanese, hence the term MUGEN Power
ˇThe company was founded in 1973 by Hirotoshi Honda, the son of Honda founder, Soichiro Honda. The company is still owned by the Honda family, but is completely independent of Honda Motor. It does, however, have a special relationship with Honda and works closely with the manufacturer on the development of high performance engines and cars
ˇMUGEN specialises in building and tuning Honda engines for racing
ˇAt the MUGEN M-Tec factory in Saitama, Japan, major components can be constructed for racing and high performance road engines
ˇMUGEN employs approximately 180 people
ˇFrom 1991 to 2000, MUGEN built and prepared Formula 1 engines for a number of teams, including Tyrrell, Ligier, Prost and Jordan. It has also acted as an adviser for Hondas own Formula 1 engine development.
ˇUntil 2005 MUGEN was the sole supplier of Formula Nippon engines
ˇThe company now prepares Honda NSX customer cars for the Super GT Championship, Formula 3, the Japan Le Mans series, Formula Nippon and the Nurburgring 24 Hour.
ˇMUGEN also supplies engines for JAS Motorsport for their customer rally cars
ˇIts other business is selling aftermarket parts to enthusiasts for road and race cars
Using over 20 years of experience and engineering expertise gained at the forefront of global motorsport, engineers from MUGEN in Japan and Europe analysed every component of the Swindon-built 3-door Civic Type R before developing one of the quickest normally-aspirated front drive cars in the world.
Each Type R MUGEN will be an exclusive, hand-built race car for the road, says Hiroki Toyoda, Vice President of MUGEN EURO. When we launched the Civic Type RR saloon in Japan, we sold out of all 300 units in just six minutes. Given the interest we have already had from car enthusiasts in the UK and abroad, we hope to repeat that achievement.
Race engine for the road
The 2.0-litre i-VTEC engine is the first to reap the benefits of MUGENs time in Formula 1 and GT racing, as well as hundreds of development hours and testing time with the Honda K20A engine on the world-class MUGEN engine dyno. New camshafts and a modified intake system increase power by 20 per cent to 240PS, and boost torque by 10 per cent throughout the rev range. A change of pistons also helps by increasing the compression ratio, and breathing is enhanced by fitting a custom stainless steel exhaust system and MUGEN airbox. Meanwhile, a bespoke MUGEN map for the ECU allows the engine to take full advantage of the modifications.
MUGEN engineers pay incredible attention to detail, often measuring to one thousandth of a millimetre when tuning and rebuilding an engine, and this process typically takes approximately seven days of work, says Hiroki Toyoda. When our engineers arent building customer engines, they are at circuits with top level race and rally teams helping to manage and prepare race engines. We are very proud to bring our motorsport experience to the road with this high performance Honda engine, the very first time that a MUGEN-tuned engine has ever been offered for use on the road in the UK.
The extra power of the tuned engine is transferred to road or track via a limited slip differential, and grip and handling are also significantly improved through a completely revised suspension set-up, with custom-made springs and dampers employed.
Improving the stopping power are bespoke four-piston mono-block racing brake callipers, which sit under high-density, lightweight forged alloy wheels. These weigh just 7.85kg each (32 per cent less than the production wheel), contributing to a significant reduction in unsprung weight.
Integrated style
MUGEN was keen to amend the already-aggressive original styling of the Civic Type R with modifications that are integrated. A large wing adorns the back of the car, and plays a role in increasing downforce at speed, to improve stability. Other measures to improve the cars overall aero efficiency include replacing front and rear skirts with high-quality composite items. At the front, a new grille wearing the MUGEN emblem enhances the nose.
Every Civic Type R MUGEN will be painted in Hondas famous Championship White the traditional racing colour of the brand, in which its first Formula 1 car was painted back in 1964. To authenticate the cars exclusivity each will wear a special badge inside on the centre console, listing the serial number of each unique model.
To make the ultimate Type R even more extreme, particularly for circuit use, MUGEN is offering an optional Track Pack. This package includes front Recaro seats, removal of the rear seat bench with a composite blanking panel fitted to reduce weight, water and oil temperature/pressure gauges, data recording equipment, and track-ready road-legal tyres.
Concept development
While early engineering and development was carried out by MUGEN in Japan, a considerable amount of time has been spent honing the car for UK conditions. Engineers from the UK and Japan carried out 36 hours of suspension testing on 2200km of British roads during September, to further tune the set-up. In addition, MUGENs engine specialists adjusted ECU mapping and throttle response and a new exhaust system was fitted to improve resonance. Plus, the team worked on brake feel, seeing a 30 per cent improvement after three days of testing.
The production model has also benefitted from feedback gathered from UK media, and Type R enthusiasts in the UK. This information was fed into the development process and helped decide the final spec of the 20 production units.
Price confirmed
MUGEN Euro has set the price for the Honda Civic Type R MUGEN at Ł38,599 OTR.
This price includes an unparalleled purchasing experience, which involves direct contact with MUGEN engineers throughout the cars build. This will be a package tailored to individual customers similar to the service offered when buying a racing car. Each of the Type Rs will be built to the customers exact specification, including their choice of options. Even ECU mapping can be adjusted to suit specific customer tastes or driving style.
The price also takes into account MUGEN racing engine building expertise and heritage. Put it into context, MUGEN would typically charge around Ł165,000 + VAT for a full racing Type R, with the engine costing about 10 per cent of this price. Only a select few have had the chance to sit behind the wheel of a Honda-MUGEN, and even fewer have owned one, so this is an extremely unique opportunity.
For more information, customers can call the dedicated customer service line: 0845 200 8007, or visit: www.TypeRMUGEN.co.uk
Who are MUGEN / M-Tec Co. Ltd?
ˇMUGEN means infinite or unlimited in Japanese, hence the term MUGEN Power
ˇThe company was founded in 1973 by Hirotoshi Honda, the son of Honda founder, Soichiro Honda. The company is still owned by the Honda family, but is completely independent of Honda Motor. It does, however, have a special relationship with Honda and works closely with the manufacturer on the development of high performance engines and cars
ˇMUGEN specialises in building and tuning Honda engines for racing
ˇAt the MUGEN M-Tec factory in Saitama, Japan, major components can be constructed for racing and high performance road engines
ˇMUGEN employs approximately 180 people
ˇFrom 1991 to 2000, MUGEN built and prepared Formula 1 engines for a number of teams, including Tyrrell, Ligier, Prost and Jordan. It has also acted as an adviser for Hondas own Formula 1 engine development.
ˇUntil 2005 MUGEN was the sole supplier of Formula Nippon engines
ˇThe company now prepares Honda NSX customer cars for the Super GT Championship, Formula 3, the Japan Le Mans series, Formula Nippon and the Nurburgring 24 Hour.
ˇMUGEN also supplies engines for JAS Motorsport for their customer rally cars
ˇIts other business is selling aftermarket parts to enthusiasts for road and race cars
26-10-2009, 12:24 PM
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No, THIS is the ultimate Civic... the Mugen RR advanced!!
https://pa.photoshelter.com/c/nippon...000sugu.PU9Qp4
The official press video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEmO_8b05ac
https://pa.photoshelter.com/c/nippon...000sugu.PU9Qp4
The official press video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEmO_8b05ac
26-10-2009, 12:30 PM
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Not where I would spend my own money, but if you specifically want a very good civic, I dont actually think its bad value, people saying "bolt some aftermarket bits on yourself and save 10k" are missing the point of it being such a well rounded package, where as the one you just bolt together by adding aftermarket bits isnt going to be, as you havent done the development that they have.
Im sure it drives very well for what it is.
Im sure it drives very well for what it is.
26-10-2009, 12:35 PM
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Not where I would spend my own money, but if you specifically want a very good civic, I dont actually think its bad value, people saying "bolt some aftermarket bits on yourself and save 10k" are missing the point of it being such a well rounded package, where as the one you just bolt together by adding aftermarket bits isnt going to be, as you havent done the development that they have.
Im sure it drives very well for what it is.
Im sure it drives very well for what it is.
26-10-2009, 12:50 PM
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Its the reasons things like ferraris cost so much money, if they were being made in the numbers that focus's are then there wouldnt be anywhere near as significant a difference in price between the two vehicles!
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Stick this mugen R against a stage 1 cossie and i'd put a months wages on the cossie being a speck in the civic's mirror after the first few corners
26-10-2009, 02:53 PM
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It does make me wonder how much its cost them to produce because the R&D must have been done when making their tuning parts for the aftermarket scene, Mugen probably got a discount from Honda too.
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26-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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40k civic against a 4k stage 1 Cossie......................................
: cry:I would rather have the Cossie............ and Ł36,000 in my bank account
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Honda should just give in to the dark side and bolt turbo's onto their lumps, would probably be invincible then ay vtec owners . I wonder what the future has in store for them, as alot of manufacturers are looking towards turbo power for emissions reasons. Sorry if i swore at the vtec boys for mentioning turbo's.
26-10-2009, 08:04 PM
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it's a lot of money as it's hand built and highly developed which comes at a price