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22-10-2009, 03:41 PM
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22-10-2009, 03:44 PM
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For all you who support what the BNP stand for - does that also mean you think this bloke should get back to his country, or do you support his struggle?
Not trying to be inflamatory, just curious.
Not trying to be inflamatory, just curious.
although i think if nick griffin was in power he'd be sending over the troops
I heard that woman on lbc, was funny cos james o'brian kept asking her what was indegionous and all she kept saying was about the climate, was comical, never realised you was on tho mate.
I agree with stopping benefits, if we didn't have benefits the immigrants would stop coming here and stay in spain / france instead of coming full hog to good old britain.
I agree with stopping benefits, if we didn't have benefits the immigrants would stop coming here and stay in spain / france instead of coming full hog to good old britain.
let me see if it's online somewhere
22-10-2009, 03:58 PM
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i don't see it as being the same really
the guys gone over there and built someone with his family and now the government want to take it away from him
right or wrong, you can't just say that it's nice ot have hordes of peole buring your houses down and torching your farmlands is it, regardless of if it's "legal" to evict you or not
and i think that's what's going to happen if nick and his party get into power, possibly not on the same scale as we are moce "civilised" but after watching that program on the tell the other night about how peole in bristol treat forigners, i'd not be so sure
the guys gone over there and built someone with his family and now the government want to take it away from him
right or wrong, you can't just say that it's nice ot have hordes of peole buring your houses down and torching your farmlands is it, regardless of if it's "legal" to evict you or not
and i think that's what's going to happen if nick and his party get into power, possibly not on the same scale as we are moce "civilised" but after watching that program on the tell the other night about how peole in bristol treat forigners, i'd not be so sure
22-10-2009, 04:01 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode..._the_Doorstep/
watch this and see if you think britain will be better off under the bp's leadership
even on dial up you only need to see the first 40 seconds
watch this and see if you think britain will be better off under the bp's leadership
even on dial up you only need to see the first 40 seconds
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22-10-2009, 04:07 PM
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Can i just say,
We have bad people like the mindless nugget's shown,
But we had HERE in OUR country that fucking knob with a hook on his hand spreading his hate toward's to people here,
Do we run round with C4 strapped to us Not all admitted but u get your crazy cunt's like them mindless yob's 
50/50 folk's the penny is bad on both side's
We have bad people like the mindless nugget's shown,
But we had HERE in OUR country that fucking knob with a hook on his hand spreading his hate toward's to people here,
Do we run round with C4 strapped to us
Not all admitted but u get your crazy cunt's like them mindless yob's 50/50 folk's the penny is bad on both side's
22-10-2009, 04:08 PM
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I have not read any of this thread, so don't shoot me down in flames.
BUT
What is wrong with people here? Why not let him have his 5 minutes. Were all capable of making up our own minds. Its not like he is Darren Brown and he is going to hyptomise us!
I heard some nugget on Radio 5 earlier say after the BNP have been on TV they expect everybody to basically go round murdering ethnics.... WTF.
Get a grip
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What is wrong with people here? Why not let him have his 5 minutes. Were all capable of making up our own minds. Its not like he is Darren Brown and he is going to hyptomise us!
I heard some nugget on Radio 5 earlier say after the BNP have been on TV they expect everybody to basically go round murdering ethnics.... WTF.
Get a grip
22-10-2009, 04:17 PM
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I don't agree with the BNP but I do agree with some of the points they make
The area in Doncaster I used to live was swamped in the last few years with Polish, latvians, Afgans, Iraqis...etc and I can honestly say it was a fucking nightmare. My car was twatted twice (the police weren't interested as soon a they heard "Romanian") getting to sleep on a night was next to impossible with the pricks flying up and down all night in stickered up Honda Preludes and the Romanian pikeys next door playing their shite music at 2am and walking round the street pissed up and rowing. Came out of my house more than once to find one of the greasy cunts sat on my car bonnet. One night one of their un-taxed cars was clamped so they spent the night trying to get it off with hammers, saws, angel grinders...the police came and did fuck all
So for anyone that thinks immigration is a good thing spend one night there and then tell what you think in the morning when you've got to go to work (to pay for these cunts) and had fuck all sleep and the mirrors are hanging off your car
The area in Doncaster I used to live was swamped in the last few years with Polish, latvians, Afgans, Iraqis...etc and I can honestly say it was a fucking nightmare. My car was twatted twice (the police weren't interested as soon a they heard "Romanian") getting to sleep on a night was next to impossible with the pricks flying up and down all night in stickered up Honda Preludes and the Romanian pikeys next door playing their shite music at 2am and walking round the street pissed up and rowing. Came out of my house more than once to find one of the greasy cunts sat on my car bonnet. One night one of their un-taxed cars was clamped so they spent the night trying to get it off with hammers, saws, angel grinders...the police came and did fuck all
So for anyone that thinks immigration is a good thing spend one night there and then tell what you think in the morning when you've got to go to work (to pay for these cunts) and had fuck all sleep and the mirrors are hanging off your car
22-10-2009, 05:21 PM
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I don't agree with the BNP but I do agree with some of the points they make
The area in Doncaster I used to live was swamped in the last few years with Polish, latvians, Afgans, Iraqis...etc and I can honestly say it was a fucking nightmare. My car was twatted twice (the police weren't interested as soon a they heard "Romanian") getting to sleep on a night was next to impossible with the pricks flying up and down all night in stickered up Honda Preludes and the Romanian pikeys next door playing their shite music at 2am and walking round the street pissed up and rowing. Came out of my house more than once to find one of the greasy cunts sat on my car bonnet. One night one of their un-taxed cars was clamped so they spent the night trying to get it off with hammers, saws, angel grinders...the police came and did fuck all
So for anyone that thinks immigration is a good thing spend one night there and then tell what you think in the morning when you've got to go to work (to pay for these cunts) and had fuck all sleep and the mirrors are hanging off your car
The area in Doncaster I used to live was swamped in the last few years with Polish, latvians, Afgans, Iraqis...etc and I can honestly say it was a fucking nightmare. My car was twatted twice (the police weren't interested as soon a they heard "Romanian") getting to sleep on a night was next to impossible with the pricks flying up and down all night in stickered up Honda Preludes and the Romanian pikeys next door playing their shite music at 2am and walking round the street pissed up and rowing. Came out of my house more than once to find one of the greasy cunts sat on my car bonnet. One night one of their un-taxed cars was clamped so they spent the night trying to get it off with hammers, saws, angel grinders...the police came and did fuck all
So for anyone that thinks immigration is a good thing spend one night there and then tell what you think in the morning when you've got to go to work (to pay for these cunts) and had fuck all sleep and the mirrors are hanging off your car
As been from bradford well need i say more your above post would say what i wanted to say
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22-10-2009, 05:31 PM
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There were some good fights though between them, one day it kicked off and one of them went back into the house to get a weapon....
...he came back with an old portable TV. I was pissing myself laughing as he ran up and down the street trying to twat another Borat with it
...he came back with an old portable TV. I was pissing myself laughing as he ran up and down the street trying to twat another Borat with it
22-10-2009, 05:44 PM
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i know ALOT of people who will be using the BNP as a "protest" vote without knowing too much about the party and i hope they watch to see what/who they are voting for.
its a good idea they/he is on tv i think.
its a good idea they/he is on tv i think.
22-10-2009, 05:45 PM
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U see all sort's mate,
One day i was my sister's and asian's race up and down here street till in fact it never stop's
he came shooting round the corner hit the centre island took the bollard out and who was in front the OLD BILL i was PMSL when they went over to talk to him,They had pulled a focus and then that twat hitting the bollard CLASS 
22-10-2009, 06:07 PM
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i don't see it as being the same really...
and i think that's what's going to happen if nick and his party get into power, possibly not on the same scale as we are moce "civilised" but after watching that program on the tell the other night about how peole in bristol treat forigners, i'd not be so sure
and i think that's what's going to happen if nick and his party get into power, possibly not on the same scale as we are moce "civilised" but after watching that program on the tell the other night about how peole in bristol treat forigners, i'd not be so sure
22-10-2009, 06:22 PM
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That's EXACTLY my point though Dojj. It seems so extreme and so deplorable what's happening over there, but that's exactly the kind of culture Griffin and his loyal bigots want over here. Sure many think that it's ok to vote for him because there's some sense in his principles about taking care of our own citizens first - but that's his way of making his extreme views more palatable to the 'civilised' masses.
No regard to above the post,
But how can u assume he is out to ruin you or the country making assumption's,
just because that's what u think does not make it reality as you are so trying to prove,
See my point your convicting him before he has had the chance,
Look at brown eh he has had his chance
And proven he is indeed a tit lol.You cannot say there guilty before the given the right to prove them self's in any repsect's within life
,A 19yr old lad in a RST,
Do we say fuck he is gonna speed about let's take his RST off him cos he "could" a danger,But yet he could the most sensible RST owner
.I am NOT saying BNP are the best or even right but pointing your assuming mate
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Or it seem's that way mate sorry
22-10-2009, 07:32 PM
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not read the 4 pages as im on my mobile. but i will be watching and those scummers outside the bbc make themselves look bad. (worse than bnp supporters yet again) acting like animals etc climbing onto and into private property... there is uk's main problem. lmao at the student ttat got caught by police and got told the copper will be pyhsical with him... well dont get onto private property and you wont get hassle you inbred cider drinking greenpeace hippy tosser!!
people go on about the 'type' of people that vote bnp..... id be more worried about the people that protest against.
bnp wont gee anywhere big. but it must mean people are sick fed up and angry at the way things are right now with the country to let them get this far. be it grandad's, soldiers, posh, middle, class, or skinhead. bottom line is people dont want to be mugged off anymore with everyone else first....
Britain first... then help the rest dont treat your own people like mugs cause joe bloggs isnt just a number
people go on about the 'type' of people that vote bnp..... id be more worried about the people that protest against.
bnp wont gee anywhere big. but it must mean people are sick fed up and angry at the way things are right now with the country to let them get this far. be it grandad's, soldiers, posh, middle, class, or skinhead. bottom line is people dont want to be mugged off anymore with everyone else first....
Britain first... then help the rest dont treat your own people like mugs cause joe bloggs isnt just a number
22-10-2009, 07:35 PM
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theyve been voted for by over a million in this country, that gives them the right to be heard. agree or not make your own choice as thats the whole point in the election/voting process but denying them their right because you dont agree with what they say is not the way to go about it.
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22-10-2009, 07:36 PM
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That's the impression I get from Griffin. Just looking at his previous activities let's you know exactly what his views are, and what kind of person he is. While I agree with looking after number one first, out and out racism is not the solution.
If you think he's a misunderstood genius who could help the country then I fear that you don't realise the implications of a bloke like this getting into a position of power.
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22-10-2009, 07:57 PM
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Imigration is a big problem and IMO it one of the reasons this country has gone into resession,main reason is the opening up of the eu so they can come and work very easy
I delt with a lot of polish builders last summer,they undercutt the local builders so they get the job,i know because they bragged about it,yes from what ive seen they do a great job,BUT the majority of the eastern europeon workers are not here for the long term,they only spend what they need to surrvive and save the rest or send it back home,so not all the money they have earned his not going back into the economy
One polish worker who used to come into the builders merchant alot built 3 houses in a very sort after area,soon as he sold them he went back home to poland
Same with them itailan workers that got shipped over,its fucking the country up
I delt with a lot of polish builders last summer,they undercutt the local builders so they get the job,i know because they bragged about it,yes from what ive seen they do a great job,BUT the majority of the eastern europeon workers are not here for the long term,they only spend what they need to surrvive and save the rest or send it back home,so not all the money they have earned his not going back into the economy
One polish worker who used to come into the builders merchant alot built 3 houses in a very sort after area,soon as he sold them he went back home to poland
Same with them itailan workers that got shipped over,its fucking the country up
22-10-2009, 08:01 PM
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i do my bit for my trade, i wont start any eastern european immigrants although many locals think as soon as their feet are in the door they can relax and take it easy...
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22-10-2009, 08:04 PM
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The BNP are very clever. They know exactly what to say to gain the support of the working/subworking class of the UK.
Thier headline statements often look reasonable and thier target audiences are either too busy/too ignorant/too thick to look deeper at the policys so of course they rapidly gain the support they want.
looking deeper at thier policys and there is FAR too much which is similar to nazi type policys!!
We are already in a country where many of the laws passed by labour are restricting freedoms in a similar way to the restrictions imposed by nazis on the germans in the 1930's. We are studying this on my course in human rights and its quite similar. Albeit the motivation may be slightly different. But then do any of us really know the real motications of this country???
Adding the BNP to the mix isnt going to make things better.
in this country we are a democracy and the law allows the BNP the freedom of speech just as you and i have so we have to let them make thier speechs.
Sadly the other political partys in this country are soo weak and pathetic and the working class soooo pissed off that anyone sounding the right words will win the vote en masse and it will be too late to change once they realise the implications of thier choices.
heres hoping those with power (and i dont mean politicians) who see sense do everything they can to expose the BNP for the racist thugs they really are before its too late!!
BNP = British National Party or British Nazi Party??? hard to see a difference....
Thier headline statements often look reasonable and thier target audiences are either too busy/too ignorant/too thick to look deeper at the policys so of course they rapidly gain the support they want.
looking deeper at thier policys and there is FAR too much which is similar to nazi type policys!!
We are already in a country where many of the laws passed by labour are restricting freedoms in a similar way to the restrictions imposed by nazis on the germans in the 1930's. We are studying this on my course in human rights and its quite similar. Albeit the motivation may be slightly different. But then do any of us really know the real motications of this country???
Adding the BNP to the mix isnt going to make things better.
in this country we are a democracy and the law allows the BNP the freedom of speech just as you and i have so we have to let them make thier speechs.
Sadly the other political partys in this country are soo weak and pathetic and the working class soooo pissed off that anyone sounding the right words will win the vote en masse and it will be too late to change once they realise the implications of thier choices.
heres hoping those with power (and i dont mean politicians) who see sense do everything they can to expose the BNP for the racist thugs they really are before its too late!!
BNP = British National Party or British Nazi Party??? hard to see a difference....
22-10-2009, 08:16 PM
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Surely work harder, provide a better quality product and there wont be the need for EU immigrants.
In my experience the polish workers are more loyal, harder working and just as good if not better quality of work than the british equivilent working class worker. Plus they wont whinge and bitch and try and avoid work as much as thier british equivilents.
A lot of EU immigrants are doing the shitty jobs British people traditionally didnt want. British people only want these jobs back because of the recession and hard times.
I find it funny that so many of the people who whinge about immigrants wouldnt be prepared to put the effort in and work as hard as them for the same money
In my nieghbourhood theres a lot of resentment and anger at indians and pakistanis (all branded "pakis" by these ignorant people though) at why have they got a nice house, run 4 corner shops, flash cars etc. i'll tell you why its because when they came to this country with NOTHING, they worked thier ass's off to make up for the disadvantage of being an immigrant in a far more racist britain than now. They worked hard for decades to get what they have now and provide for thier 2nd/3rd generation familys. And these ignorant white trash see fit to criticise and resent them??? those same white trash who dont know what a days hard work is??? Maybe if these white people who whinge so much had put in that effort then theyd be as well off. But they dont think like that do they?? they just in thier ignorant blinkered way see a "paki" with money when theyve got nothing (thier perception, in reality they have plenty) and feel jealousy and anger when in reality if they got off thier fat ass's and worked they too could have such nice things. But no they dont see that they just see a different colour with wealth and use that to justify racism/antii migration behaviour.
22-10-2009, 08:23 PM
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The thing is it's the inadequacy of the current government by letting anyone into the country that has got us in this position (...USA, New Zealand and Australia don't just take people in, why do we?) Rather than complaining about the BNP they should take some responsibility for it in the first place...10 years ago nobody would have voted for them but, as has been pointed out, the only reason they have had so many votes in because people are pissed off with the current situation...they are saying what people want to hear
Even with all the shit I had in my old area I still wouldn't vote for them...and especially don't like them using WW2 images to promote themselves. It's an insult IMO to those that fought and made real sacrifices
22-10-2009, 08:28 PM
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So in that case what right to British people have to complain when foriegners do a better job and work harder than them??
Surely work harder, provide a better quality product and there wont be the need for EU immigrants.
In my experience the polish workers are more loyal, harder working and just as good if not better quality of work than the british equivilent working class worker. Plus they wont whinge and bitch and try and avoid work as much as thier british equivilents.
A lot of EU immigrants are doing the shitty jobs British people traditionally didnt want. British people only want these jobs back because of the recession and hard times.
I find it funny that so many of the people who whinge about immigrants wouldnt be prepared to put the effort in and work as hard as them for the same money
In my nieghbourhood theres a lot of resentment and anger at indians and pakistanis (all branded "pakis" by these ignorant people though) at why have they got a nice house, run 4 corner shops, flash cars etc. i'll tell you why its because when they came to this country with NOTHING, they worked thier ass's off to make up for the disadvantage of being an immigrant in a far more racist britain than now. They worked hard for decades to get what they have now and provide for thier 2nd/3rd generation familys. And these ignorant white trash see fit to criticise and resent them??? those same white trash who dont know what a days hard work is??? Maybe if these white people who whinge so much had put in that effort then theyd be as well off. But they dont think like that do they?? they just in thier ignorant blinkered way see a "paki" with money when theyve got nothing (thier perception, in reality they have plenty) and feel jealousy and anger when in reality if they got off thier fat ass's and worked they too could have such nice things. But no they dont see that they just see a different colour with wealth and use that to justify racism/antii migration behaviour.
Surely work harder, provide a better quality product and there wont be the need for EU immigrants.
In my experience the polish workers are more loyal, harder working and just as good if not better quality of work than the british equivilent working class worker. Plus they wont whinge and bitch and try and avoid work as much as thier british equivilents.
A lot of EU immigrants are doing the shitty jobs British people traditionally didnt want. British people only want these jobs back because of the recession and hard times.
I find it funny that so many of the people who whinge about immigrants wouldnt be prepared to put the effort in and work as hard as them for the same money
In my nieghbourhood theres a lot of resentment and anger at indians and pakistanis (all branded "pakis" by these ignorant people though) at why have they got a nice house, run 4 corner shops, flash cars etc. i'll tell you why its because when they came to this country with NOTHING, they worked thier ass's off to make up for the disadvantage of being an immigrant in a far more racist britain than now. They worked hard for decades to get what they have now and provide for thier 2nd/3rd generation familys. And these ignorant white trash see fit to criticise and resent them??? those same white trash who dont know what a days hard work is??? Maybe if these white people who whinge so much had put in that effort then theyd be as well off. But they dont think like that do they?? they just in thier ignorant blinkered way see a "paki" with money when theyve got nothing (thier perception, in reality they have plenty) and feel jealousy and anger when in reality if they got off thier fat ass's and worked they too could have such nice things. But no they dont see that they just see a different colour with wealth and use that to justify racism/antii migration behaviour.
ive no interest in local chancers either so im not quite sure exactly what your argument is but id rather give the local guy a chance than a pole.theres plenty good local unemployed guys out there.
perhaps when your in a trade thats been destroyed by the influx of high numbers of foreign donkeys you might see it differently from your text book idealism.the problem is gready bosses seeing the pound signs of cheap labour rather than the quality of the work they leave.i work like fuck to do my best for the company which will be why im in the position i am now. more people should try harder especially these days.
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22-10-2009, 08:43 PM
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Fuzzy i think you will find your trade has been destroyed by greed NOT shoddy workers.
Theres lots of british shoddy workers too you know fuzzy!! If it wasnt the poles then it would be them that you are blaming.
After all youd have to be a pretty stupid foreman to take on massively cheaper employees who are shoddy just to save a few quid. Most construction jobs arent one day jobs where the shoddy workers can cut and run before getting found out. So its not like the foreman/ job managers dont know whats going on!!!
Theres lots of british shoddy workers too you know fuzzy!! If it wasnt the poles then it would be them that you are blaming.
After all youd have to be a pretty stupid foreman to take on massively cheaper employees who are shoddy just to save a few quid. Most construction jobs arent one day jobs where the shoddy workers can cut and run before getting found out. So its not like the foreman/ job managers dont know whats going on!!!
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That's the impression I get from Griffin. Just looking at his previous activities let's you know exactly what his views are, and what kind of person he is. While I agree with looking after number one first, out and out racism is not the solution.
If you think he's a misunderstood genius who could help the country then I fear that you don't realise the implications of a bloke like this getting into a position of power.
If you think he's a misunderstood genius who could help the country then I fear that you don't realise the implications of a bloke like this getting into a position of power.
22-10-2009, 08:48 PM
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i know theres plenty shoddy locals, i paid off 15 in the last couple of weeks. theres no place for them either but as theres plenty decent local out of work id rather give them a chance than eastern europeans when we need to recruit as theres a better chance of getting someone decent.
thats the simple fact as proven by years of first hand experience.
thats the simple fact as proven by years of first hand experience.
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22-10-2009, 08:50 PM
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Testing the future
not read the tread at all, but i woldn't normally watch a boring politics show and i'm not about to start now.
i do firmly believe that the bbc are right to have him on though as they are a legitimate political party and every licence payer should be represented.
i do firmly believe that the bbc are right to have him on though as they are a legitimate political party and every licence payer should be represented.
22-10-2009, 08:52 PM
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Im not saying your at fault fuzzy but theres plenty of foreman out there who dont give a fuck and its them that have ruined the trade NOT the immigrants. Theyll just see cheap labour like that as an opportunity to up the profit margin (which are very tight these days anyway) and particularly on government/local authority or faceless big company builds these corner cutting can either be hidden easily or wont be found out until your off the job and long gone
22-10-2009, 08:57 PM
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its not easy to cut corners, especially on large government funded projects. were doing 102 flats just now for a local housing assossiation and they are on top of everything with appointed clerk of works checking everythings done properly. i wont comment on the profit margins but i do know the percentage the company i work for is expecting to make.
its not a bad life though.
its not a bad life though.
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Fact
if your an illigal immigrant (fact you get a room to yourself in a centre) (fact that room gets cleaned for you) (fact you get three cooked meals a day) (fact you get new nike runers) (fact you get a free mobile phone) (fact you get sky TV) (fact you get free NHS) (And fact you £4000 if you agree to go home with out complaint)
HOW MANY OF OUR OLD PEOPLE GET THAT?
Anyway the bnp lets not go there
HOW MANY OF OUR OLD PEOPLE GET THAT?
Anyway the bnp lets not go there